Minnesota House approves $1 billion public works proposal

There are 20 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Feb 15, 2010, titled Minnesota House approves $1 billion public works proposal. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Hours after Gov. Tim Pawlenty proposed cutting state spending by $825 million to balance the state budget, the Minnesota House voted Monday night to borrow more than $1 billion to finance public works projects.

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Nota Sheep

San Leandro, CA

#1 Feb 15, 2010
Wow... How out of touch can they be?

They borrow $1,000,000,000.00. They spend $1,000,000,000.00. They are left with nothing but the debt for years to come. Taxpayers will be paying, and paying, and paying LONG after the money is gone.

Please,(D)umb (F)arking (L)iberals... show some restraint. Stop selling us all down the river.
Slim

Denver, CO

#2 Feb 15, 2010
You should be complaining about the GOP members that voted for it.
Clueless

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Feb 15, 2010
Slim wrote:
You should be complaining about the GOP members that voted for it.
You're right, both parties are guilty, but don't justify bad behavior
by pointing to other bad behavior. The DFL runs the legislature and
the fact that it has even come up for a vote this quickly in both
chambers is their doing and reflects their intent on spending us out
of financial problems. The Repubs join in and give them cover when
they do, but the leadership is all Dems and they need to start
showing some. Not putting money for the colleges and universities
into the budget bill last year and then borrowing the money in a
bonding bill this year is..........what? This is
the kind of playing politics with our budgets that drives us into
the hole year after year. Where does it end?.........where??
Rational

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Feb 15, 2010
Nota Sheep wrote:
Wow... How out of touch can they be?
They borrow $1,000,000,000.00. They spend $1,000,000,000.00. They are left with nothing but the debt for years to come. Taxpayers will be paying, and paying, and paying LONG after the money is gone.
Please,(D)umb (F)arking (L)iberals... show some restraint. Stop selling us all down the river.
You're right. Potholes in Minnesota fix themselves for free, as do bridges.
Rational

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Feb 15, 2010
Nota Sheep wrote:
Please,(D)umb (F)arking (L)iberals... show some restraint. Stop selling us all down the river.
I guess you missed the part where Timmy's OK with most of the spending. Is he in the DFL?

I thought you wingnuts liked borrowing and spending. Been the standard "no new taxes" flimflam since Reagan.

Since: Apr 08

Saint Croix Falls, WI

#7 Feb 16, 2010
Slim wrote:
You should be complaining about the GOP members that voted for it.
I will complain about anyone who votes for it regardless of political label. Vote them all out, they just don't get it.

The state credit card is maxed out, now they want to get a increase for nothing more than pork. Shouldn't the natural resources come out of the new tax that was passed?

If they drop the bond rating on the state, it will not even be close to looking as good as ugly.
Been There

Hudson, WI

#8 Feb 16, 2010
What I dont understand, maybe some can explain it...if were in debt and cant pay the bills now, why are we adding more?$11 millon for a gorilla exhibit???? people are starving and they want to build civic centers? Are they going to put bunk beds in them. A bonding bill is still spending money WE DO NOT HAVE. Dont these people live in the real world. 20,000 jobs will help nothing compared to the disaster it will create when they have to raise taxes yet again down the road to pay it back.
Clueless

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Feb 16, 2010
Been There wrote:
What I dont understand, maybe some can explain it...if were in debt and cant pay the bills now, why are we adding more?$11 millon for a gorilla exhibit???? people are starving and they want to build civic centers? Are they going to put bunk beds in them. A bonding bill is still spending money WE DO NOT HAVE. Dont these people live in the real world. 20,000 jobs will help nothing compared to the disaster it will create when they have to raise taxes yet again down the road to pay it back.
You seem to understand it better than most, and you explained
it yourself wonderfully. The part that a lot of people don't
get is that progressives don't care about the debt or who is
going to pay it back. They believe that ALL resources are
there for their use and they will take them, one way or the
other. It is who they are; the only choices are to let
them, or defeat them. This year will decide which one we
choose.
Observer

Minneapolis, MN

#10 Feb 16, 2010
Again, nobody in St. Paul knows what's going on:

http://www.examiner.com/x-36867-Minneapolis-E...
Comment

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Feb 16, 2010
Rational wrote:
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You're right. Potholes in Minnesota fix themselves for free, as do bridges.
"...Rep. Alice Hausman, DFL-St. Paul, said it would finance state college and university buildings, bridges, bus and passenger rail transit projects and water and sewer systems "the infrastructure necessary to make our state competitive in the future."

But it also funds arts and civic centers, zoo exhibits and about $300 million more in other projects.."

Read the article, Billy: no mention of pot holes, and if they weren't wasting the majority of the funds, there would be no issues with "...bridges and potholes..."

I wonder if Hausman was axed how being the highest taxed state in the region will make us more competitive.

Obviously, there's no recession in the government.
Comment

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Feb 16, 2010
Nota Sheep wrote:
Wow... How out of touch can they be?
They borrow $1,000,000,000.00. They spend $1,000,000,000.00. They are left with nothing but the debt for years to come. Taxpayers will be paying, and paying, and paying LONG after the money is gone.
Please,(D)umb (F)arking (L)iberals... show some restraint. Stop selling us all down the river.
How out of touch can ***THEY*** be??? How about the fools who keep electing these clowns?
mnhusker

Elk River, MN

#14 Feb 16, 2010
When are politicians going to get it? When you are in debt, you don't go borrowing more money. Where do they come up with these crazy ideas? And they wonder why the american people are mad and don't trust the government anymore.
TDO

Plano, TX

#15 Feb 16, 2010
Rational wrote:
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You're right. Potholes in Minnesota fix themselves for free, as do bridges.
And the funding for "social programs" climbs faster than the number of potholes.
Wiscpurplefan

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Feb 16, 2010
There are far too many road projects that are overdue. This can not be overlooked. This is not pork. This is for much needed road and bridge work. It needs to be funded.

Since: Apr 08

Saint Croix Falls, WI

#17 Feb 16, 2010
Wiscpurplefan wrote:
There are far too many road projects that are overdue. This can not be overlooked. This is not pork. This is for much needed road and bridge work. It needs to be funded.
If they are so important, why is only 15 percent of this PORK bill going to them?

If transit wasn't sucking 40 percent of the tax dollars from the recent change, more roads would be fixed WITHOUT a bonding bill.
Rational

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Feb 16, 2010
Comment wrote:
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"...Rep. Alice Hausman, DFL-St. Paul, said it would finance state college and university buildings, bridges, bus and passenger rail transit projects and water and sewer systems "the infrastructure necessary to make our state competitive in the future."
But it also funds arts and civic centers, zoo exhibits and about $300 million more in other projects.."
Read the article, Billy: no mention of pot holes, and if they weren't wasting the majority of the funds, there would be no issues with "...bridges and potholes..."
I wonder if Hausman was axed how being the highest taxed state in the region will make us more competitive.
Obviously, there's no recession in the government.
No mention of roads and bridges in the bonding bill? You going to stick with that one?

So you think that public resources don't need money to fix things etc? That's the Haitian approach. How's that working out?
Rational

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Feb 16, 2010
TDO wrote:
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And the funding for "social programs" climbs faster than the number of potholes.
There's "social programs" in the bonding bill? Where?

You people always overestimate the cost of "welfare". It's trivial.

Of course you all ignore the big items.
Comment

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Feb 16, 2010
Rational wrote:
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No mention of roads and bridges in the bonding bill? You going to stick with that one?
So you think that public resources don't need money to fix things etc? That's the Haitian approach. How's that working out?
You really need to read before you start typing. And then a bit of critical thinking on your part might go a long way to end your eternal confusion. Here's what I wrote, Billy: "...Read the article, Billy: no mention of pot holes..."
And, just what does: "...So you think that public resources don't need money to fix things etc?... mean. If the legislature was acting responsibly, by attending to public works' issues BEFORE all the happy BS they promote, funding would not be an issue. But your Haiti analogy is correct for we too have crooks syphoning away the public treasure for themselves, in Haiti, it's the dictators' family; here, we just call them democrats
Rational

Saint Paul, MN

#22 Feb 16, 2010
Comment wrote:
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You really need to read before you start typing. And then a bit of critical thinking on your part might go a long way to end your eternal confusion. Here's what I wrote, Billy: "...Read the article, Billy: no mention of pot holes..."
And, just what does: "...So you think that public resources don't need money to fix things etc?... mean. If the legislature was acting responsibly, by attending to public works' issues BEFORE all the happy BS they promote, funding would not be an issue. But your Haiti analogy is correct for we too have crooks syphoning away the public treasure for themselves, in Haiti, it's the dictators' family; here, we just call them democrats
I love how you people love having it both ways. If roads are underfunded, look no further than the governor's office.

You moan about taxes then you moan about roads not being fixed.

Make up your mind. There's no free lunch.
Clueless

Saint Paul, MN

#24 Feb 16, 2010
Rational wrote:
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I love how you people love having it both ways. If roads are underfunded, look no further than the governor's office.
You moan about taxes then you moan about roads not being fixed.
Make up your mind. There's no free lunch.
Who are the "you people" you keep referring to, Rat? "You people" suggests
plural..........you wouldn't be referring to democrats and republicans,
would you? And since that includes you.......... oh, you people!!
When are you going to give a solution to the issues, Rat? I have offered
mine all over these posts. So have others; I agree with some and not
others. You could say the same thing. But I have yet to read a single
post of yours (did I miss some? probably, but which ones?) that has
offered a single solution. You piss and you moan, you insult and you
bitch..........where are you when it comes to solving anything?
Where, Rat?

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