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Facing Pawlenty veto, lawmakers pull back $1B bonding bill

There are 35 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Feb 23, 2010, titled Facing Pawlenty veto, lawmakers pull back $1B bonding bill. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Like Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown, Minnesota House Speaker Margaret Anderson Kelliher on Tuesday jerked a $1 billion public works bill away from Gov.

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redeemer

Minneapolis, MN

#21 Feb 24, 2010
Doubting Thomas wrote:
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Well Remeer if I had my way any person running for an office they do not hold would have to resign from their current position. It would also mean that if you lost your campaign you would not get your old position back unless you are voted back in during the next General Election.
If that were in place now, not only would Pawlenty not be Governor but Rybak would not be mayor, Kehilor-Anderson would not be in the state government. If this were to have been applied to the Presidential Elections the following people would not hold a government position today:
Senator Christopher Dodd (D-CN)
Representative Deniss Kucinich (D-OH)
Governor Bill Richardson (D- NM)
Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)
Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR)
Ron Paul (R-TX)
And so many others.
Whats with the remeer BS? are you trying to get cute,with me?everyday I see why I don't like or trust,you crazy wingnut types.Screw all of them other clowns,
this pawlenty clown is the one that I worry about.
Timmy as FAIL.he is a loser,just like You and the rest of you republicanscums.Do you get it troll! in november,we will finish you job,on your nutty as and the rest of same
old same old obstructionist dead weight.
It's time to change the page and close the book for ya,and your side kicks Like that pig joe magot and the whole chitloaD of SOB's

DO YOU DOUBT ME THOMAS???????
Billy Bob

United States

#22 Feb 24, 2010
Doubting Thomas wrote:
<quoted text>
I think it sad. There are so many people out there who all they need to know about a candidate is found in the letter next to their name.
You hear them bash Michele Bachman eventhough they don't know the issues facing her district.
They hate Sarah Pallin because of the news articles they've seen on CBS, ABC, or NBC
They love Al Franken even though he has no experience as a government official.
It's really sad
Amen......The issues should be more important then the party. The people should come before the party politics. Unfortunatly we are stuck in the stupid cycle of blame instead of productive problem solving.
Billy Bob

United States

#23 Feb 24, 2010
redeemer wrote:
<quoted text> Whats with the remeer BS? are you trying to get cute,with me?everyday I see why I don't like or trust,you crazy wingnut types.Screw all of them other clowns,
this pawlenty clown is the one that I worry about.
Timmy as FAIL.he is a loser,just like You and the rest of you republicanscums.Do you get it troll! in november,we will finish you job,on your nutty as and the rest of same
old same old obstructionist dead weight.
It's time to change the page and close the book for ya,and your side kicks Like that pig joe magot and the whole chitloaD of SOB's
DO YOU DOUBT ME THOMAS???????
Maybe for once you could throw out one fact one single good point. We all know that will not happen though. Perhaps a change in medication would do the trick.
Doubting Thomas

Hopkins, MN

#24 Feb 24, 2010
redeemer wrote:
<quoted text> Whats with the remeer BS? are you trying to get cute,with me?everyday I see why I don't like or trust,you crazy wingnut types.Screw all of them other clowns,
this pawlenty clown is the one that I worry about.
Timmy as FAIL.he is a loser,just like You and the rest of you republicanscums.Do you get it troll! in november,we will finish you job,on your nutty as and the rest of same
old same old obstructionist dead weight.
It's time to change the page and close the book for ya,and your side kicks Like that pig joe magot and the whole chitloaD of SOB's
DO YOU DOUBT ME THOMAS???????
First it was a typo, so you got all bent out of shape because of a typo. Congratulations of the over reaction.

And now for the translation. Come November you are really hoping, and I mean you're really hoping, that the Democrats will build an even greater majority because you need more of my money so that the government can provide more programs for you. Because you know that the government is more equipped to take care of you then you can yourself.

I hate to break it to you but you are not Mainstream America, I am. I voted in November 2008 for a Democrat for President because I believed in his message for change, an Independent for Senate because he aligned more closely with my political views, and a Republican for Congress because my Congress woman wasn't getting the job done.

Now two short years later that same Democratic Party that promised Hope and Change has only been able to change my support from them to someone else. It has pushed me so far away that for the first time I was closely watching a state election for another state, Mass. And when Scott Brown defeated Cathy Coakley for the Senate seat in Mass I sighed in relief and said "Now the insanity will stop."

So you go on hoping that the Dem's will gain more power but if the unemployment rate in this country isn't below 9% and some form of healthcare isn't passed then you might be hoping alone!!!
redeemer

Minneapolis, MN

#25 Feb 24, 2010
Doubting Thomas wrote:
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First it was a typo, so you got all bent out of shape because of a typo. Congratulations of the over reaction.
And now for the translation. Come November you are really hoping, and I mean you're really hoping, that the Democrats will build an even greater majority because you need more of my money so that the government can provide more programs for you. Because you know that the government is more equipped to take care of you then you can yourself.
I hate to break it to you but you are not Mainstream America, I am. I voted in November 2008 for a Democrat for President because I believed in his message for change, an Independent for Senate because he aligned more closely with my political views, and a Republican for Congress because my Congress woman wasn't getting the job done.
Now two short years later that same Democratic Party that promised Hope and Change has only been able to change my support from them to someone else. It has pushed me so far away that for the first time I was closely watching a state election for another state, Mass. And when Scott Brown defeated Cathy Coakley for the Senate seat in Mass I sighed in relief and said "Now the insanity will stop."
So you go on hoping that the Dem's will gain more power but if the unemployment rate in this country isn't below 9% and some form of healthcare isn't passed then you might be hoping alone!!!
Alright I accept your typo,but with such a crafty fellow replying to me with your over inflated ego.
How do you know who is in the mainstream? Why wouldn't I fall in that mainstream group? The last election was,the last time that we
had a numberical count of the mainstream of americans,and the democrats won by a ten million voters,that makes me mainstream and the others a minority.
As far as november goes,when we finish the job on you republicans
with the exception of a few Dixie red states,I don't wish but execute. it's a done deal.

Also what does the government provide me,that it does'nt provide you? Now I hope that you can answer that question sincerely.

Also how do you feel about sen.Brown now since he is not a follow the mob winger,Beck and Limbaugh have already start calling him a RINO traitor hahaha.so are you still relieved.about his election.
redeemer

Minneapolis, MN

#26 Feb 24, 2010
Billy Bob wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe for once you could throw out one fact one single good point. We all know that will not happen though. Perhaps a change in medication would do the trick.
Billy Bob ! Laughter is the best medicine,so I'm well
medicated when I read your spoon fed Dixie redneck BS.hahahah
You remind me of star trek,the next generation adoptation of the "Borg" We are the Borg.we don't die we muliply.Thanks for the laughs.
Doubting Thomas

Minneapolis, MN

#27 Feb 24, 2010
redeemer wrote:
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Alright I accept your typo,but with such a crafty fellow replying to me with your over inflated ego.
How do you know who is in the mainstream? Why wouldn't I fall in that mainstream group? The last election was,the last time that we
had a numberical count of the mainstream of americans,and the democrats won by a ten million voters,that makes me mainstream and the others a minority.
As far as november goes,when we finish the job on you republicans
with the exception of a few Dixie red states,I don't wish but execute. it's a done deal.
Also what does the government provide me,that it does'nt provide you? Now I hope that you can answer that question sincerely.
Also how do you feel about sen.Brown now since he is not a follow the mob winger,Beck and Limbaugh have already start calling him a RINO traitor hahaha.so are you still relieved.about his election.
We get a numerical count of who Mainstream America is every week and based on those numbers it appears that who was Mainstream America in 11/08 is not the same as who is 02/10.

The only thing that I get from the government is called common good (roads, fire, police, and schools).

Did you even read my last post? Why would a Republican vote for Obama or Barkley? So why do you think I care what Beck or Limbaugh say about Brown.

Am I happy that he was voted in? HELL YES!!! Because that disaster of a healthcare bill that the Democrats were trying to pass died at the same time. He could vote Democrat on every other issue but as long as the dagger that he put in the heart of that bill remains I will be happy!!!!

Since: Aug 08

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#28 Feb 24, 2010
Disgusted wrote:
A contractors' organization estimated a $1 billion public works bill would create about 21,000 jobs
No bias there...just take their word for it.
Yeah, like this?:
"Q: Mr. Secretary, on Iraq, how much money do you think the Department of Defense would need to pay for a war with Iraq?

Rumsfeld: Well, the Office of Management and Budget, has come up come up with a number that's something under $50 billion for the cost. How much of that would be the U.S. burden, and how much would be other countries, is an open question. I think the way to put it into perspective is that the estimates as to what September 11th cost the United States of America ranges high up into the hundreds of billions of dollars. Now, another event in the United States that was like September 11th, and which cost thousands of lives, but one that involved a -- for example, a biological weapon, would be -- have a cost in human life, as well as in billions, hundreds of billions of dollars, that would be vastly greater. "
Donald Rumsfeld January 29, 2003
(Source: http://www.defense.gov/transcripts/transcript... )

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#29 Feb 24, 2010
Joe Merlot wrote:
Also, DFL'ers. Please note request #3 from the Governor to focus on a budget bill. We are now a month long into the session and have heard almost nothing from Democrats on a budget fix.
When the budget crisis cranks on the last week of the mandated end of the session, please make sure to remember that they've ignored it for the entire session.... On purpose.... They'll send a tax increase bill to the governor in the final days/hours of the session and then angle for a special session and government shutdown to try to force a proprosal that doesn't enjoy legislative support.
Remember this when the end of the session is upon us, OK?
I fully support a government shut down. two or three months should do the trick. Then we can take what we learn (i.e. what we didn't notice was shut down) and close it down for good.

The DFL goofballs think a shutdown will inconvieneince enough people to pressure the Gov to give. In reality, the people who will be inconvienienced are the DFL government-dependant voters anyway; everyone else will be relieved the DFL finally found a way to trim expenses.
redeemer

Minneapolis, MN

#30 Feb 24, 2010
Doubting Thomas wrote:
<quoted text>
We get a numerical count of who Mainstream America is every week and based on those numbers it appears that who was Mainstream America in 11/08 is not the same as who is 02/10.
The only thing that I get from the government is called common good (roads, fire, police, and schools).
Did you even read my last post? Why would a Republican vote for Obama or Barkley? So why do you think I care what Beck or Limbaugh say about Brown.
Am I happy that he was voted in? HELL YES!!! Because that disaster of a healthcare bill that the Democrats were trying to pass died at the same time. He could vote Democrat on every other issue but as long as the dagger that he put in the heart of that bill remains I will be happy!!!!
You must be reading fox daily
fake polls,and really polls don't count until election day.you been
hoodwinked man.also you don't keep up with current events.Healthcare has surface back to the head of our agenda.
we don't need sen.brown vote,we going with a straight up and down
vote like we should have done at first.And when we get healthcare
bill pass,you will be rally unhappy,a sad sack,huh hahahah I enjoy
seeing you republicans squirm after we keep defeating and destroying all of your hopes,you still got a little less the 38 years in the wilderness. By 2050 your party will be PARDON.
rlwr51

Minneapolis, MN

#31 Feb 24, 2010
"Like Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown, Minnesota House Speaker Margaret Anderson Kelliher on Tuesday jerked a $1 billion public works bill away from Gov. Tim Pawlenty before he got a chance to veto it." Nothing like objetive journalism - Is the implication that Pawlenty treats this like a game and/or he is being deprived of a pleasurable experience by not having something to veto.)I bet he does think it's fun to veto.)

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#32 Feb 24, 2010
rlwr51 wrote:
"Like Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown, Minnesota House Speaker Margaret Anderson Kelliher on Tuesday jerked a $1 billion public works bill away from Gov. Tim Pawlenty before he got a chance to veto it." Nothing like objetive journalism - Is the implication that Pawlenty treats this like a game and/or he is being deprived of a pleasurable experience by not having something to veto.)I bet he does think it's fun to veto.)
Since the DFL thinks it's a game, play some mad-libs with Salsbury's propoganda. i'll go first: substitute 'bacon cheeseburger' for '$1 billion public works bill'.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#33 Feb 24, 2010
rlwr51 wrote:
"Like Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown, Minnesota House Speaker Margaret Anderson Kelliher on Tuesday jerked a $1 billion public works bill away from Gov. Tim Pawlenty before he got a chance to veto it." Nothing like objetive journalism - Is the implication that Pawlenty treats this like a game and/or he is being deprived of a pleasurable experience by not having something to veto.)I bet he does think it's fun to veto.)
Since the DFL has clearly demonstrated that they think this is a game, let's play mad-libs with Salbury's propaganda. I'll go first: substitute 'bacon cheeseburger' for '$1 billion public works bill'
Doubting Thomas

Hopkins, MN

#34 Feb 25, 2010
redeemer wrote:
<quoted text>You must be reading fox daily
fake polls,and really polls don't count until election day.you been
hoodwinked man.also you don't keep up with current events.Healthcare has surface back to the head of our agenda.
we don't need sen.brown vote,we going with a straight up and down
vote like we should have done at first.And when we get healthcare
bill pass,you will be rally unhappy,a sad sack,huh hahahah I enjoy
seeing you republicans squirm after we keep defeating and destroying all of your hopes,you still got a little less the 38 years in the wilderness. By 2050 your party will be PARDON.
Joe Merlot was right you provide absolutely nothing to a debate, no facts, no insightful arguements, nothing. Just Liberal Dribble that Harry Reed and Nancy Pelosi tell you to recite.

So you say polls don't count until election day then tell my Mr. Rocket Scientist, explain the meaning of the Virginia Governors Election, the New Jersey's Governor Election, the Massachusettes Special Senate Election? Do you even know the results of those elections? In case you don't they were held after 11/08 and all were won by Republicans. With New Jersey and Massachusettes being being blows to the Democrats.

So you say polls don't count then tell me why Arlen Specter of PA is getting lapped in his re-election bid? Tell me why someone like Evan Bayh is not going to seek re-election? What about Christopher Dodd? If polls don't count until election time why drop out of the race?

Really healthcare has resurfaced and the Dem's are going to pursue a majority vote. Really? Healthcare resurfaced because of a passing comment President Obama made about it. Nothing has really mounted since. And you really think a simple majority will get it passed? Do you know nothing about our political process? A simple majority will result in a watered down bill that changes absolutely nothing because at any point in the process it can be fillabustered and put to rest.

Really, next time before you post something do some stinking research!!!!
LGA Larry

Minneapolis, MN

#35 Feb 26, 2010
Bonding bill BS

You probably haven't heard much about how the bill was crafted and processed.

First, the DFL wrote the bill behind closed doors and rammed it through the committee process with no chance for GOP input.

The DFL next pushed the bill off the floor of both houses using strong arm tactics that prevented debate, the very lifeblood of deliberative bodies. In fact, the House DFL employed the rarely used tactic of "calling the question" to cut off debate and move directly to a final vote. See a video here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/MNHouseGOP



A conference committee has been called to reconcile differences between the two versions. As this issue goes to press, the bill has been negotiated behind closed doors between the House and Senate DFL members of the conference committee, with the public, the GOP, and the Governor's office shut out of the process.

Since when is it acceptable for a committee to meet behind closed doors, beyond the scrutiny of the public? Since when do legislative committees meet on a Sunday night after most citizens and the press have all gone home? Deciding legislation in a backroom with only the power brokers present harkens back to a darker, more corrupt era of Minnesota DFL politics. Unfortunately, the behavior also reminds of present day Washington, DC under Reid and Pelosi.

Shame on all of them.

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