Sexual predator treatment squeezes st...

Sexual predator treatment squeezes state budgets

There are 20 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Jun 21, 2010, titled Sexual predator treatment squeezes state budgets. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

Just off the highway leading to this woodsy Minnesota town, more than 400 men live behind tall fences topped with razor wire.

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rita

Santa Cruz, CA

#1 Jun 21, 2010
Assemblyman Fletcher is jut typical, knee jerk conservative who says we can't even talk about solutions as tht would require him to come up with a decent political campaign intead of the lock 'em up, throw awy the key, and don't think reactive b.s. Some of these prisoner are incapacitated, non-ambulatory, bed ridden, yet we keep them locked up to ensure reelection of hacks. With blanket draconian sentencing, studies show abue bictims are more likely to be killed as the punishments are pretty much the same, so perpetrators are more likely to ensure there not be witness. We also lump all sex offenders in one category, doing nothing to protect children and bankrupting our budgets. Don't go on the usual rant that I support child molesting, such smotional rhetoric only serves to keep more children in harm's way and more money spent in the wrongg manner. How about looking at kiddie beauty" pagents and the porn aspect of that sick industry, along with higherHow about than normal incest rates? How about a cmpaign to top seualizing children's clothing, making heels for toddlers, as an example? How a about sex education for children, teaching them to own thier bodies and being able to say no and that sex is not "dirty", "power over" is not acceptable? There are many things we can do to protect out children, however, they apparently are outside the comfort zone of most, therefore we stay stuck in emotional campaigns that get people elected and do nothing to diminish the harm done to our most precious resource. Your child is more likely to be abused by someone in thier own home than and stranger.
Support your local 45

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Jun 21, 2010
a .45 hollowpoint doesn't cost much.
CapMom

San Pablo, CA

#3 Jun 21, 2010
Bullets are cheap and effective. Use'm.
Robbie

Jefferson City, MO

#4 Jun 21, 2010
None should ever be brought in alive. Two slugs to the back of the head as they are trying to escape. Body bags are cheap and NO court costs............
rita

Santa Cruz, CA

#5 Jun 21, 2010
Robbie wrote:
None should ever be brought in alive. Two slugs to the back of the head as they are trying to escape. Body bags are cheap and NO court costs..........
You need to live in another country, where freedom is not afforded its' citizenx. Everyone deserves thier day in court. Shame on you, you are a sorry excuse for an American, Stop watching your violent tv and playing your stupid video games study the history of preserving freedom in this country (and not just battles fought in wars).
El Viejo

AOL

#6 Jun 21, 2010
rita wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to live in another country, where freedom is not afforded its' citizenx. Everyone deserves thier day in court. Shame on you, you are a sorry excuse for an American, Stop watching your violent tv and playing your stupid video games study the history of preserving freedom in this country (and not just battles fought in wars).
Rita, get your head out of your bong and come up for air !
They're playing your song, can you hear it ?

Kumbaya kumbaya...
rita

Santa Cruz, CA

#7 Jun 21, 2010
El Viejo wrote:
<quoted text>Rita, get your head out of your bong and come up for air !
They're playing your song, can you hear it ?
Kumbaya kumbaya...
There is alot of space between kumbaya and vigilanteism. So, I tke it you are one of those who only supports one amendment of our Constitution? Why does the very thought of due process make you angry?
AngryNewYorker

Livingston, CA

#8 Jun 21, 2010
Okay, Okay, Compromise... We'll do it the Chinese way... Right after the bad guy is sentenced to death, Take him out behind the courthouse, Put a bullet in his head and Bill his family for the bullet... Better?
Robbie

Jefferson City, MO

#9 Jun 22, 2010
Rita, these offenders have already been convicted of their sexual attacks, some on children as young as 2 years old. Go talk to someone who has been raped and left for dead or the parents who these psycopaths have sexaually attacked their young children---then come back and flap your ignorant jaw about due process. You are almost as sick as they are...............
ugly rita meter hag

Minneapolis, MN

#10 Jun 22, 2010
rita wrote:
<quoted text>
There is alot of space between kumbaya and vigilanteism. So, I tke it you are one of those who only supports one amendment of our Constitution? Why does the very thought of due process make you angry?
High Court Upholds Anti-Terror Law

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/06/21/us...

The Supreme Court has upheld a federal law that bars ''material support'' to foreign terrorist organizations, rejecting a free speech challenge from humanitarian aid groups.

The court ruled 6-3 Monday that the government may prohibit all forms of aid to designated terrorist groups, even if the support consists of training and advice about entirely peaceful and legal activities.

Material support intended even for benign purposes can help a terrorist group in other ways, Chief Justice John Roberts said in his majority opinion.

''Such support frees up other resources within the organization that may be put to violent ends,'' Roberts said.

Justice Stephen Breyer took the unusual step of reading his dissent aloud in the courtroom. Breyer said he rejects the majority's conclusion ''that the Constitution permits the government to prosecute the plaintiffs criminally'' for providing instruction and advice about the terror groups' lawful political objectives. Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor joined the dissent.

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Sotomayor and Ginsberg have a soft spot for the PR efforts of terrorists. Great ruling for clarity on the subversion of America by internal enemies.

I bet you're a huge fan og Big Greasy.
ein vogel frei

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Jun 22, 2010
basic duty government must adhere to is to keep citizens safe. keeping these types of criminals locked up is a given, non-negotiable. That said, how in the world does it cost $175,000 per year? The U can feed, house and educate kids for what,$25K per year? what kind of scandal, scam, BS goes on that could possible cost this much? another arena ripe for being contracted out?
Think About It

AOL

#12 Jun 22, 2010
ein vogel frei wrote:
basic duty government must adhere to is to keep citizens safe. keeping these types of criminals locked up is a given, non-negotiable. That said, how in the world does it cost $175,000 per year? The U can feed, house and educate kids for what,$25K per year? what kind of scandal, scam, BS goes on that could possible cost this much? another arena ripe for being contracted out?
Obama wants to keep the Muslim terrorists "comfortable. Just like he wants to house the illegal immigrants that are in custody prior to their deportation in comfortable, pleasant surroundings. Maybe a stay at the waikiki Hilton ?

Wonder what the cost of that will be
Joe for Prez

Minneapolis, MN

#13 Jun 22, 2010
ein vogel frei wrote:
basic duty government must adhere to is to keep citizens safe. keeping these types of criminals locked up is a given, non-negotiable. That said, how in the world does it cost $175,000 per year? The U can feed, house and educate kids for what,$25K per year? what kind of scandal, scam, BS goes on that could possible cost this much? another arena ripe for being contracted out?
Sheriff Arpaio does it for much cheaper down in AZ.

But that upsets leftists, too.
I Know Different

United States

#14 Jun 22, 2010
rita wrote:
Assemblyman Fletcher is jut typical, knee jerk conservative who says we can't even talk about solutions as tht would require him to come up with a decent political campaign intead of the lock 'em up, throw awy the key, and don't think reactive b.s. Some of these prisoner are incapacitated, non-ambulatory, bed ridden, yet we keep them locked up to ensure reelection of hacks. With blanket draconian sentencing, studies show abue bictims are more likely to be killed as the punishments are pretty much the same, so perpetrators are more likely to ensure there not be witness. We also lump all sex offenders in one category, doing nothing to protect children and bankrupting our budgets. Don't go on the usual rant that I support child molesting, such smotional rhetoric only serves to keep more children in harm's way and more money spent in the wrongg manner. How about looking at kiddie beauty" pagents and the porn aspect of that sick industry, along with higherHow about than normal incest rates? How about a cmpaign to top seualizing children's clothing, making heels for toddlers, as an example? How a about sex education for children, teaching them to own thier bodies and being able to say no and that sex is not "dirty", "power over" is not acceptable? There are many things we can do to protect out children, however, they apparently are outside the comfort zone of most, therefore we stay stuck in emotional campaigns that get people elected and do nothing to diminish the harm done to our most precious resource. Your child is more likely to be abused by someone in thier own home than and stranger.
If there really are child molesters who are "incapacitated" as you say, their lawyers can argue effectively for their release. I will also tell you I knew a pedophile who used a wheelchair to get around. When he was arrested for molesting a young girl he befriended through her mother, he tried to play the part of the incapacitated, harmless man incapable of molesting children. Nothing was further from the truth.
Buttomfly

Madison, WI

#15 Jun 22, 2010
ein vogel frei wrote:
basic duty government must adhere to is to keep citizens safe. keeping these types of criminals locked up is a given, non-negotiable. That said, how in the world does it cost $175,000 per year? The U can feed, house and educate kids for what,$25K per year? what kind of scandal, scam, BS goes on that could possible cost this much? another arena ripe for being contracted out?
Wasn't it the Moose Lake center that had bought all the flat screen TV's until someone got wind of it and Pawlenty ordered them removed? How much other high priced stuff found its way there before the TVs? You could definitely do a lot with $175,000 funding per patient.
Tards anonymous

York, PA

#16 Jun 22, 2010
rita wrote:
Assemblyman Fletcher is jut typical, knee jerk conservative who says we can't even talk about solutions as tht would require him to come up with a decent political campaign intead of the lock 'em up, throw awy the key, and don't think reactive b.s. Some of these prisoner are incapacitated, non-ambulatory, bed ridden, yet we keep them locked up to ensure reelection of hacks. With blanket draconian sentencing, studies show abue bictims are more likely to be killed as the punishments are pretty much the same, so perpetrators are more likely to ensure there not be witness. We also lump all sex offenders in one category, doing nothing to protect children and bankrupting our budgets. Don't go on the usual rant that I support child molesting, such smotional rhetoric only serves to keep more children in harm's way and more money spent in the wrongg manner. How about looking at kiddie beauty" pagents and the porn aspect of that sick industry, along with higherHow about than normal incest rates? How about a cmpaign to top seualizing children's clothing, making heels for toddlers, as an example? How a about sex education for children, teaching them to own thier bodies and being able to say no and that sex is not "dirty", "power over" is not acceptable? There are many things we can do to protect out children, however, they apparently are outside the comfort zone of most, therefore we stay stuck in emotional campaigns that get people elected and do nothing to diminish the harm done to our most precious resource. Your child is more likely to be abused by someone in thier own home than and stranger.
Rita, are you that stupid or do you just wish to create controversy; or BOTH?
Pico

Saint Paul, MN

#17 Jun 22, 2010
Support your local 45 wrote:
a .45 hollowpoint doesn't cost much.
.22 is cheaper!!!
ThinkAboutIt

United States

#18 Jun 22, 2010
rita wrote:
With blanket draconian sentencing, studies show abue bictims are more likely to be killed as the punishments are pretty much the same, so perpetrators are more likely to ensure there not be witness.
Are you actually implying that we need to be careful not to anger the poor abusers lest they possibly kill their victims? Pathetic and dangerous do not begin to cover your line of thinking.
Leave It Out

United States

#19 Jun 22, 2010
rita wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to live in another country, where freedom is not afforded its' citizenx. Everyone deserves thier day in court. Shame on you, you are a sorry excuse for an American, Stop watching your violent tv and playing your stupid video games study the history of preserving freedom in this country (and not just battles fought in wars).
rita - please stop standing on the toilet seat to pee. All that striking your head on the tank when you slip and fall off is starting to affect your judgment. Dear, these people already had their day in court, thus that pesky incarceration thing. Commit a crime, lose your freedom. A fair exchange.
Robbie

Jefferson City, MO

#20 Jun 23, 2010
Actually if you were to put these slime balls in with the general population and let it be known what they are in for the convicted murders would take care of business for the state........

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