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WHATGIVES

Basye, VA

#1 Dec 20, 2011
is there any truth to the hardy county commissioners giving tax payer money to the mathias baker rescue squad to help them pay their bills.....?????
im not talking a few thousand dollars....im talking a few hundred thousand....
before i go any further in this matter i need to get some facts.....
b.t.w this all just took place todays date......
PaysHCtaxes

Moorefield, WV

#2 Dec 21, 2011
The word on the street is Mathias Baker Ambulance was given $300,000 at the expense of the taxpayers of Hardy County! If this happens to be the truth the citizens of Hardy County should demand the resignations of all three commissioners! Its a sad day when a company has committed medicare fraud and has tried to grow well beyond its means and then expect a handout of MY tax dollars to bale them out !!!!
County commision friend

Cumberland, MD

#3 Dec 21, 2011
200,000 from county and 100,000 from harold or the "state" i mean.
WHATGIVES

Basye, VA

#4 Dec 21, 2011
THIS IS CORRECT.....
THE RESCUE SQUAD WAS GIVEN THE $300,000...WHAT A SHAME.....LOOKS LIKE THE SQUAD MEMBERS WHO PUT THIS RESCUE SQUAD IN THIS POSISTION, ARE GOING TO HAVE ONE HELL OF A CHRISTMAS.....NEXT COUNTY COMMISIONERS MEETING IS TUES.JAN.3RD, 9AM....COME BE HEARD AS A CITIZEN OF HARDY COUNTY...ITS AN OPEN DOOR POLICY, THEY CANT REFUSE YOUR INPUT..........
....AND FOR ANY PAST EMPLOYEE, OR FRIEND, ANYONE WHO KNOWS INFO ON THE SQUADS WRONGDOINGS...YOUR VOICE AS A CITIZEN NEEDS TO BE HEARD.....
ANOTHER THING THAT IS A SHAME IS THAT ANYONE EMPLOYEED THRU THE SQUAD NOW, HAS BEEN-YOU MIGHT AS WELL SAY THREATENED NOT TO SAY ANYTHING OF THIS MATTER, OR RISK LOSING THEIR JOB.....
WHATGIVES

Basye, VA

#5 Dec 21, 2011
County commision friend wrote:
200,000 from county and 100,000 from harold or the "state" i mean.
STILL DOESNT MAKE IT RIGHT.....SOME OF THE SQUADS MEMBERS PUT THEMSELVES IN THIS POSITION.....WHY ARE WE "AS TAXPAYERS" TO MAKE IT RIGHT....SOMEONE NEEDS TO STOP THESE IDIOTS......
....i understand that this is a service that is needed for our area....but we this is be handled completely in the wrong manner....
ive heard from older folks in the area there were times they would transport people in the area in personal vehicles to meet the squads out to dr. gahman office, or even over the mountain....
County commision friend

Cumberland, MD

#6 Dec 21, 2011
It all should be public info now. Including just how much employees are being paid. Be interesting to see how much some are getting paid.[$60,000 a year].
I wonder how many othe volunteers in the county that are out busting their butts to raise money are gonna stop
Why raise money when the county and state will give it to you..
PGT

United States

#7 Dec 22, 2011
WHATGIVES wrote:
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STILL DOESNT MAKE IT RIGHT.....SOME OF THE SQUADS MEMBERS PUT THEMSELVES IN THIS POSITION.....WHY ARE WE "AS TAXPAYERS" TO MAKE IT RIGHT....SOMEONE NEEDS TO STOP THESE IDIOTS......
....i understand that this is a service that is needed for our area....but we this is be handled completely in the wrong manner....
ive heard from older folks in the area there were times they would transport people in the area in personal vehicles to meet the squads out to dr. gahman office, or even over the mountain.....
Well you heard wrong,no employee has ever transported people in their own vehicals.Get your facts straight.And it's not the employees fault,they are doing their job,they're are there for the community and they enjoy helping others and do a good job at it.Not a whole lot of people in this world have the kind of heart like them.
WHATGIVES

Basye, VA

#8 Dec 22, 2011
OK...let me clarify then....it doesnt read as it should....i was getting at way back when the squad began it wasnt nothing for you to have to put your friend or family member in a car to meet the squad en route.....the only reason i mention any of this is because the squad said it would have closed the doors because they didnt have the money to operate....i say close them....i'll gladley use my vehicle for my neihbors if they get sick, and meet fraleys,gore, capon springs or broadway/bergton enroute.....
secondly...i said some of the members....not everyone was at fault...im sure you know who they were....if not it wont be long til it comes out....and you are right, some of the members do care what they do, and give the best service available, but wouldnt you agree that there are some that are there just for the money, isnt that what got them in the position they are in the first place....
PaysHCtaxes

Moorefield, WV

#9 Dec 24, 2011
300K keeps EMS company afloat for now

Elaine Blaisdell
Cumberland Times-News

BAKER, W.Va.— Mathias-Baker EMS was given $300,000 by Hardy County commissioners so it can continue operations, according to&#8200;County&#8200; Commissioner A.J. Wade.

The EMS company has been providing service to the Lost River Valley and surrounding areas for years but was set to buckle Wednesday if it didn’t receive financial assistance, according to Wade.

The emergency services company recently paid $1,068,717 to settle allegations filed in U.S. District Court in Wheeling that it submitted false claims for payment to Medicare and Medicaid programs.

“The county commission has a duty to provide emergency ambulance service throughout the county,” Wade said in an interview with the Times-News.

“We didn’t know how serious their financial situation was until the middle of December, and we did not have sufficient time to implement a contingency plan to provide for continued service. So we felt we could not allow several thousand residents of the area to be without emergency ambulance service. The only way to avoid that is to provide financial service to allow them to continue to operate for the time being.”

Mathias-Baker EMS will report its financial progress to the commissioners on a monthly basis, and the commission is working on a contingency plan should the company fail to rectify its financial situation, &#8200;Wade said.

So far, the state has not given the EMS company any money; however, it would be willing to help, said Harold Michael, Hardy County delegate.

“We will help in any way we can as the option is to have two-thirds of Hardy County without emergency services,” said Michael in an email to the Times-News.

Currently, there are no other requests to the commission for any assistance for other volunteer rescue squads in the area, according to Wade.

“If there is a request from someone else, we will deal with at that time.&#8200;I don’t anticipate it will happen. This was a&#8200;very rare occurrence,” said Wade.

The settlement agreement Mathias-Baker reached ends an investigation into allegations that it submitted false claims to Medicare and Medicaid for non-emergency ambulance transports from May 2008 to January 2010, in that the patients were being taken to and from routine medical appointments even though their medical conditions did not require ambulance transport.

There are additional circumstances regarding the fraud case a year or so ago, said Michael.

“Our federal government told them to sign the agreement or they would cut off Medicare and Medicaid funding, which is the bulk of their income, if Mathias-Baker contested their findings,” said Michael.“The feds said these type of cases usually take two to three years to resolve if contested (all of that time with no income).”

Neighboring Grant County is in the second year of a five-year contract that provides Mathias-Baker EMS with $185,000 for services to the 12,000 residents in that county, according to&#8200;Ed Fischer, county administrator. At no point was the contract with Mathias-Baker EMS reconsidered despite the fraud case.

At this point, there are no additional meetings scheduled with &#8200;Mathias-Baker EMS, according to Wade. The next county commission meeting will be Jan. 3.

Contact Elaine Blaisdell at [email protected]
WHATGIVES

Basye, VA

#10 Dec 24, 2011
They need to see what they are spending our tax dollars on each week....not just getting progress reports each month....im sure some the the executive members got a year end bonus....im glad the cumberland times reported this because now that means the moorefield examiner will probably run it in their next paper.....thats going really get some things fired up in the area.....hopefully the other local fire and rescue organizations see this......looks like there is going to be a hell of a meeting on jan. 03
btw....they got a bank loan for the million dollar fine.....it didnt come out of the squads pockets......looks like we will end of paying for something agin that we had no involvement in...
WTF

Washington, DC

#11 Dec 26, 2011
WHAT else is new! and YEA! the other departments in the county are FIRED up! I hope they plan on having the meeting outside. Noway will they get that many people in that little room!
WHATGIVES

Basye, VA

#12 Dec 27, 2011
ppl better hope the county commissiners make this right for the other fire and rescue agencies that didnt run their organization in the ground like the baker rescue squad...and jus so you all know...im not dissing the squad for what they do, when they aide in helping someone in need, but it all comes back to those put it in the shape its in and wont take the fall.....
i suppose its all going to come out next tues. jan.3rd at 9am.....
btw....this is open door anyone can and should sit in on this meeting....you wont be allowed to speak unless your on the agenda to do so, but you sure as hell can listen to what is being said, i plan to do so, and will keep the citizens of hardy county updated on this situation.....
now ppl say all of these topics and comments are heresay and not the truth, but IM here to tell you i speak nothing but the truth...anything ive ever mentioned on here before the fact has become nothing but the FACTS......
someone who knows

Strasburg, VA

#13 Dec 29, 2011
WHATGIVES wrote:
OK...let me clarify then....it doesnt read as it should....i was getting at way back when the squad began it wasnt nothing for you to have to put your friend or family member in a car to meet the squad en route.....the only reason i mention any of this is because the squad said it would have closed the doors because they didnt have the money to operate....i say close them....i'll gladley use my vehicle for my neihbors if they get sick, and meet fraleys,gore, capon springs or broadway/bergton enroute.....
secondly...i said some of the members....not everyone was at fault...im sure you know who they were....if not it wont be long til it comes out....and you are right, some of the members do care what they do, and give the best service available, but wouldnt you agree that there are some that are there just for the money, isnt that what got them in the position they are in the first place....
the next time there is a farming accident with some one just extricated from a bailer limbs missing, or a traffic accidnet with profuse bleeding, etc or a heart stops and cpr has to be started now, let me see you take care of these patients in your private vehicle....u dont even have a clue what goes on in ems. there is more than just sick people being needed hauled
WHATGIVES

Basye, VA

#14 Dec 29, 2011
id rather try to help someone in my private vehicle than to put another damn dollar in richard hamiltons pocket or the others that put the squad in this position.......
theres more ppl out there that despise what the directors of the squad did than you realize.....its on the news commentary with steve davis on w.e.l.d for the past three days....did you by chance listen today....one of the best so far
again let me emphasize we do need the squad in this area, but wont we dont need the greedy bastards to ask the community and citizens to bail them out....
i didnt put them 2.6 million dollars in debt.....
i dont think my hardy county tax dollars should be going into the grant county station....chew on that for awhile....if you choke...i know how to perform c.p.r
WTF

Washington, DC

#15 Dec 30, 2011
Our TAX dollars should also NOT be going to bail out a BUSINESS who put themselves in the trouble they are in! and Mathias-Baker became a BUSINESS when they started making and billing for non emergent transports, hiring and paying salaries, and paying the state for a business license!

Maybe they should get Patty Fraley to run things for them for awhile.. Over 30years in business and hasnt had to be bailed out by the "commission"(aka Larry, Moe and Curly Joe) yet!
WTF

Washington, DC

#16 Dec 30, 2011
Btw..... Daddy Harold should probably learn a little more about the county he represents.. two thirds?? You have Wardensville in that area, and Moorefield/Fraleys that covers the entire western half of Hardy County. SO how is it that all of a sudden M&B covers two thirds?
someone who knows

Romney, WV

#17 Dec 31, 2011
WHATGIVES wrote:
id rather try to help someone in my private vehicle than to put another damn dollar in richard hamiltons pocket or the others that put the squad in this position.......
theres more ppl out there that despise what the directors of the squad did than you realize.....its on the news commentary with steve davis on w.e.l.d for the past three days....did you by chance listen today....one of the best so far
again let me emphasize we do need the squad in this area, but wont we dont need the greedy bastards to ask the community and citizens to bail them out....
i didnt put them 2.6 million dollars in debt.....
i dont think my hardy county tax dollars should be going into the grant county station....chew on that for awhile....if you choke...i know how to perform c.p.r
lol :) jealousy is a strange bed fellow isn't it? Glad I didn't choke....it's not c.p.r. that would have been needed. It's called the heimlick maneuver ha ha ha
someone who doesnt know

Radford, VA

#18 Dec 31, 2011
Maybe someone who knows would be glad to SPLAIN to use who don't know how the squad got in this mess, how our tax dollars will be repaid along with the debts and fine, who is responsible for this mess and fraud, who is going to jail for this fraud. Is anyone going to straighten this mess up and continue with a squad, which is desperately needed or is this mess going to continue as it has for the past years and now with the help of the county, state and possible federal tax money? Please, SOMEONE WHO KNOWS, call a meeting or come to the commissioners meeting next Tuesday and share what you know.
WHATGIVES

Basye, VA

#19 Dec 31, 2011
someone who knows wrote:
<quoted text>lol :) jealousy is a strange bed fellow isn't it? Glad I didn't choke....it's not c.p.r. that would have been needed. It's called the heimlick maneuver ha ha ha
the last time i took a c.p.r class they taught the heimlick maneuver, and i know it....maybe you need to take a refresher course.....
and its not jealously at all.....never been about jealously, its about whats right,someone needs to pay, shouldnt be me as a taxpayer or the citizens... what the directors and the ones who were involved did was never right.....
i would have no problem with this scandal and everything else the directors at the time were doing if it wasnt kept hush hush for so long.
you would of had more support from the community if they said we made i mistake, and yes some of our employees didnt use good judgement.....again this isnt about just the medicare fraud .....its so much more than that.....jealously never...its about doing whats right
WHATGIVES

Basye, VA

#20 Dec 31, 2011
someone who doesnt know wrote:
Maybe someone who knows would be glad to SPLAIN to use who don't know how the squad got in this mess, how our tax dollars will be repaid along with the debts and fine, who is responsible for this mess and fraud, who is going to jail for this fraud. Is anyone going to straighten this mess up and continue with a squad, which is desperately needed or is this mess going to continue as it has for the past years and now with the help of the county, state and possible federal tax money? Please, SOMEONE WHO KNOWS, call a meeting or come to the commissioners meeting next Tuesday and share what you know.
very well put....lets see what happens next tues....ive got conformation that cumberland times, and possibly daily news record will be there, not sure about the examiner....should make for some good articles....i hear there are going to be some past members/employees at the meeting... thet are tired of hiding the truth....at least they know what the right thing to do is

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