Lake County teacher quits after being...

Lake County teacher quits after being questioned about student ...

There are 130 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from May 23, 2008, titled Lake County teacher quits after being questioned about student .... In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

Lake County deputies have put a science teacher under the microscope after receiving a video that appears to show him wrestling with a Clermont Middle School student in class and driving him headfirst to the ...

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ajnock

United States

#1 May 23, 2008
They are obviously just playing. Wrong place to be playing. Go to the gym.
ListenSonny

Orlando, FL

#2 May 23, 2008
I don't think this is proper teacher/student activity, but I'm not sure this guy should lose his job. None of the students involved seem to have an issue with it. If it had been against someone's will, then there would definitely be grounds for getting rid of him. I'm thinking a warning and probation period might be acceptable in this case.
american10

Lincoln, NE

#3 May 23, 2008
What was that nutjob teacher thinking? I don't care if they were "playing" or not. An adult doesn't wrestle a kid in the classroom (or anywhere else for that matter). The guy is a dope. I wouldn't want him "teaching" my son.
Palmetto Bugs

Orlando, FL

#4 May 23, 2008
american10 wrote:
What was that nutjob teacher thinking? I don't care if they were "playing" or not. An adult doesn't wrestle a kid in the classroom (or anywhere else for that matter). The guy is a dope. I wouldn't want him "teaching" my son.
Evidently the other parents do since none of them filed a complaint. That should lead us to believe that he is a well respected/popular teacher.

I don't condone his actions, but I think he should have just taken the reprimand or suspension without pay - not quit.
Muslim Nole

Orlando, FL

#5 May 23, 2008
In my country, this is acceptable behavior for teachers to beat up students. What is the problem here.
Preppy Mom

AOL

#6 May 23, 2008
This is clearly a video showing the teacher and students having a little fun. He's a wrestling coach so he was probably kidding around with the student that he could pin him down any day of the week (probably a few minutes before the bell rang). The student took the challange. Too bad this has been totally blown out of proportion. Shame on the idiot mom who would bring in this video and try to start sh#t!! She needs to get a life!! The students probably love this guy becasue he messes with them, relates to them and is fun loving. Now just becasue the class was having a little fun, this poor teacher gets a bad rap. PLEEEEEEEASE move on to more serious issues and let this teacher be!! Even the wresteled student didn't see a problem with the whole thing. LET IT GO!!!
ListenSonny

Orlando, FL

#7 May 23, 2008
At least he didn't break out a Pile Driver !!!!!!!!
Bunch of Crapolla

Ocala, FL

#8 May 23, 2008
In this day and age of one-, no-, and grandparent homes, or where the children are institutionalized in daycare centers from birth, it is terrific that a teacher loves his studetns enough to do so good old fashion horsing around with them. Probably this student does not have any male-figure in his life to bond with so he was just teasing to have a man take an interst in him and to talk with. Not a good idea coach but I hope that you are able to find your way back into education. These kids need you.
young black and educated

Scottsmoor, FL

#9 May 23, 2008
I dont think he should lose his teaching certificate however, he should be fired. As teachers we are professionals not students that have time to play. A wrestling coach should know that the holds they practice are dangerous and can lead to serious injury. He did the right thing by taking responsibility for his part in the matter and resigning. I think he should be let go but allowed to teach elsewhere. Maybe after this situation, he can use better judgement.
Thin the herd

United States

#10 May 23, 2008
The student actually wanted to challenge the teacher. This is a right of passage that women will never understand. Was it the right venue? No. Should he have been forced to resign? No.
pablo

Cincinnati, OH

#11 May 23, 2008
You telling me that teachers can't fight their students anymore? Whats next? Priests won't be able to babysit. Whats this world coming to?
middle school parent

United States

#12 May 23, 2008
Come on people,boys will be boys. Here's a teacher relating to boys. You can see plainly what's going on why make such an issue. I'll bet the kid that showed the video to his parents thought it was fun. We need to get some balance -everything is not a crime! Slap the guys wrist IF YOU HAVE TO - clear his record and move on. Gee Whiz!
Joe Comment

United States

#13 May 23, 2008
Preppy Mom hit it right on the head. This is why I quit teaching after 10 years and moved on to a less invasive career.

Teachers are people who enjoy interacting with kids. I also coached and it was normal, in fact regular that the kids would want to challenge the coach for the fun of it.

Men have it extra tough in the school systems (pay vs. open market & scrutiny). Note: There are very low percentages of male teachers.

Last point. Parents - If a teacher sends home a note of a student's conduct at school the parent usually blames the teacher, complains to the administrators and the teacher gets into trouble. Instead of the student improving. When I was a kid and this happened. We were punished (yes butt whoopin) at home and I am now better off for it.

Of course, I could never have publicly said these things as a teacher but now I can. Now, I can work doing something that actually pays fairly and if I want to enjoy working with kids... I can volunteer.
DPack

Saint Petersburg, FL

#14 May 23, 2008
The educational process has become so sanitized this incident being an example. We have a parent who obviously believes they are now the class cop and needs to be the overseer of classroom decorem! Well isn't that just great. Second, the video was shot using a cell phone? Since when are cell phones allowed in schools? I thought kids could not have them? Anybody know the answer on this one as far as Lake County? Would it not be a hoot if in fact the parent who reported was similarly guilty with the student having the phone? Now that would be justice!
Those of you parents that think your right is to oversee like the parent in this case, do us all a favor, either get your butt into the schools since this is so paramount or stop sticking your nose in everybody elses business.
As to the teacher, wrong venue but under the current conditions found in the classroom as to overall student respect next time use the sleeper hold, trust me you'll have the respect of your students then!!
kedwardsccnn

Orlando, FL

#15 May 23, 2008
Steve Berry is one of the nicest people anyone could ever meet. He has three boys of his own and is the best father to those children I have ever seen. I only wish my own parents would have been half as good a parent as Steve is. He does try to "relate" to the students, and perhaps this was his way of trying to relate. He should not be "persecuted" because of a lack of jdugement!
ogal19

Water Valley, MS

#16 May 23, 2008
Probably not the best judgement in the world however, parents will look for any reason in the world to punish teachers. I'll bet if the parent had done this at their home with some kids, they would have thought nothing of it. Parents want teachers to raise their kids these days but the first thing that comes up where they think they can take their job or sue them, and they jump on it.
Bittersweet

Altamonte Springs, FL

#17 May 23, 2008
I'm sorry, but as a teacher for 7 years in secondary schools, I can say that this guy was out of line. I am tired of some teachers thinking that they should be "friends" with their students and then resorting to immature acts like this. We are NOT in schools to act like children. We are there to be kind and respectful to them and teach them. I do have fun discussions with my students now and then, but if a principal was in the room, he/she would not find it out of line. This clearly was. What if that kid would have gotten injured? Guess who would have been immediately sued? This kind of behavior lowers the bar for all teachers, and it needs to end.
kedwardsccnn

Orlando, FL

#18 May 23, 2008
american10 wrote:
What was that nutjob teacher thinking? I don't care if they were "playing" or not. An adult doesn't wrestle a kid in the classroom (or anywhere else for that matter). The guy is a dope. I wouldn't want him "teaching" my son.
YOU are the NUTJOB American10! What about wrestling coaches?
Bittersweet

Altamonte Springs, FL

#19 May 23, 2008
young black and educated wrote:
I dont think he should lose his teaching certificate however, he should be fired. As teachers we are professionals not students that have time to play. A wrestling coach should know that the holds they practice are dangerous and can lead to serious injury. He did the right thing by taking responsibility for his part in the matter and resigning. I think he should be let go but allowed to teach elsewhere. Maybe after this situation, he can use better judgement.
I agree. The punishment was a bit harsh, but there should have been some kind of less-severe punishment such as a firing or a suspension without pay for a few days. Once again, this sets the standard that all teachers are willing to throw their professionalism aside and "playfully" throw students around.
Jay

United States

#20 May 23, 2008
no way. no harm done. he was just trying to enhance the boy's physical skills. a little wrestling never hurt anyone.

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