LETTERS: For a moratorium on biomass

LETTERS: For a moratorium on biomass

There are 40 comments on the Bennington Banner story from Dec 9, 2010, titled LETTERS: For a moratorium on biomass. In it, Bennington Banner reports that:

The State of Vermont's Biomass Energy Working Group, which has set out to "analyze current issues in the biomass industry in order to develop a coherent body of recommendations" for the Legislature, has issued its 2011 Interim Report.

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LSU

United States

#21 Dec 10, 2010
Plant Manager wrote:
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Move along jerkwagen. this is an adult discussion and children aren't needed to supply nonsense.
Oh, I understand. Your upset because your wife ran off with a well hung black man who could satisfy her! She says to say hi little boy......
PlantManager

Bennington, VT

#22 Dec 10, 2010
Move along jackwagon. this is an adult discussion and children aren't needed to supply nonsense. we have enough of our own.
EJF

Brandon, VT

#23 Dec 10, 2010
PlantManager wrote:
Move along jackwagon. this is an adult discussion and children aren't needed to supply nonsense. we have enough of our own.
Does that mean you will stop posting?
EJF

Brandon, VT

#24 Dec 10, 2010
LSU wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, I understand. Your upset because your wife ran off with a well hung black man who could satisfy her! She says to say hi little boy......
Stevie, you home wrecker!
LSU

United States

#25 Dec 10, 2010
EJF wrote:
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Stevie, you home wrecker!
I know Elmer but at least the women are smiling and happy!
GrnMtnBoy

Roy, WA

#26 Dec 12, 2010
The immaturity just baffles me.

Why don't you college kids just go watch carttons and let the adults handle it
Grn Mtn Boy

Bennington, VT

#27 Dec 12, 2010
The immaturity just baffles you? I don't know why because you seem to have a pretty grasp on it!
GrnMtnBoy

Roy, WA

#28 Dec 15, 2010
Grn Mtn Boy wrote:
The immaturity just baffles you? I don't know why because you seem to have a pretty grasp on it!
We know what you have a grasp of. Leave it alone, it'll grow.

Now go watch cartoons.
Plant Manager

Bennington, VT

#29 Dec 15, 2010
GrnMtnBoy wrote:
The immaturity just baffles me.
Why don't you college kids just go watch carttons and let the adults handle it
Why DO NOT you college kids just go watch CARTTONS and let the adults handle it?

I'm sorry, but what?

Thankfully, the four jobs you are working do not require that you write.
Botanist

Bennington, VT

#30 Dec 15, 2010
Plant Manager wrote:
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Why DO NOT you college kids just go watch CARTTONS and let the adults handle it?
I'm sorry, but what?
Thankfully, the four jobs you are working do not require that you write.
What kind of plants do you manage with that dim bulb of yours, cause the crap your speading is incredibly RICH.
GrnMtnBoy

United States

#31 Dec 16, 2010
I have dial-up where I live. And an older computer. I don't live on a trust fund like most of you college (Williams College the 10th druggiest in the nation, why not go for number 1?) kids and can't afford a satellite setup. So there are many mistakes due to LAG. Hell this area of the burg didn't have phone service for 24 hrs. Allowing Verizon to sell to FairPoint was a major mistake.

Write? I make part of my living writing.

Now go watch your cartoons.
Concerned

Bennington, VT

#32 Dec 16, 2010
Question (s). What do you folks think would be the best source (s) of energy to keep Vermont energy independent? Why do you think our utilities and legislature have failed in Long Term Energy Planning for this state? These are serious questions.
harvey carter

Saint Albans, VT

#33 Dec 16, 2010
Concerned wrote:
Question (s). What do you folks think would be the best source (s) of energy to keep Vermont energy independent? Why do you think our utilities and legislature have failed in Long Term Energy Planning for this state? These are serious questions.
Yes they are important questions. I think that the reason we continue to flatten out the mountains of our neighbors to the south,and flood the tribal lands of our neighbors to the north for our juice is because of the huge profits made by the coal companies and Hydro Quebec. This in turn gives them plenty of money to lobby our lawmakers,who are supposed to drive our energy policy. I don't understand whats wrong with using something that grows back,and is in abundant supply , i.e. Wood, to replace some of it.
Plant Manager

Bennington, VT

#34 Dec 16, 2010
harvey carter wrote:
<quoted text> Yes they are important questions. I think that the reason we continue to flatten out the mountains of our neighbors to the south,and flood the tribal lands of our neighbors to the north for our juice is because of the huge profits made by the coal companies and Hydro Quebec. This in turn gives them plenty of money to lobby our lawmakers,who are supposed to drive our energy policy. I don't understand whats wrong with using something that grows back,and is in abundant supply , i.e. Wood, to replace some of it.
That's your biggest problem. You don't understand. Maybe you should understand, before you pick a side. There is more than just the fuel to consider.
harvey carter

Saint Albans, VT

#35 Dec 16, 2010
Plant Manager wrote:
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That's your biggest problem. You don't understand. Maybe you should understand, before you pick a side. There is more than just the fuel to consider.
Coal emissions are DIRTY! what about all the explosives and fuel used to get it? What about the fuel used to haul it halfway up the eastern seaboard? Am i missing something here? First we need to wake sure there is more than enough water,every body knows that. But after that how is the way we get our power now better than burning wood? And who does it employ in Pownal?
The Real Plant Manager

Bennington, VT

#36 Dec 17, 2010
harvey carter wrote:
<quoted text> Coal emissions are DIRTY! what about all the explosives and fuel used to get it? What about the fuel used to haul it halfway up the eastern seaboard? Am i missing something here? First we need to wake sure there is more than enough water,every body knows that. But after that how is the way we get our power now better than burning wood? And who does it employ in Pownal?
2% back into the grid. That's it. This is nothing but a moneymaker for the investors.

You are basing your opinion solely because you are a lumberjack. That is no different, and just as selfish (as you would describe it) as any NIMBY.

2% Deny the proof, prove my point.
Concerned

Bennington, VT

#37 Dec 17, 2010
harvey carter wrote:
<quoted text> Yes they are important questions. I think that the reason we continue to flatten out the mountains of our neighbors to the south,and flood the tribal lands of our neighbors to the north for our juice is because of the huge profits made by the coal companies and Hydro Quebec. This in turn gives them plenty of money to lobby our lawmakers,who are supposed to drive our energy policy. I don't understand whats wrong with using something that grows back,and is in abundant supply , i.e. Wood, to replace some of it.
Following the $$ is prety well on point. However, I honestly would like to see some suggestions/solutions to keeping Vermont energy Indenpendent. There are plenty of sources, all have their upside and downside and sll have a heavy price. Waht would be best for Vermont? Or, is it too late and all th future holds is Vermont becoming an energy slave?
GrnMtnBoy

United States

#38 Dec 17, 2010
Concerned wrote:
Question (s). What do you folks think would be the best source (s) of energy to keep Vermont energy independent? Why do you think our utilities and legislature have failed in Long Term Energy Planning for this state? These are serious questions.
There is no best source, if you remove nuclear because of the amount of power these plants put out.
I believe several types would work. Wind. An eye sore? Beauty is in the ey of the beholder. I have no problem with them. And I'm a native. When some better source comes along, tear them down, let Mother Earth take over.
Hydro. Improve the ones we have, refurbish those that have been idle. Fish? Build fish ladders. Works in Bellows Falls and elsewhere. When some better source comes along, take them out.
Solar. As technolgy improves and costs go down, we'll see more of it. BUT, here in the Northeast it'll never be THE source.
Wood gasification. Wood can be burned a lot cleaner than some people posting here realize. I believe gasification is the way to go, versus just a wood fired boiler. Gasification is a lot cleaner, more efficient.
As mentioned before, VT has a "heavy cutting law". A landowner can't harvest his forest below a certain density unless it's a change of use. Act 248 has stipulations on a plants procurement of material.
Large dairy farms should be putting in methane fired generators. Old landfills can be tapped for the gas there also.
I believe the state and utilities have failed because of greed and politics. They feel all warm and fuzzy when they pass "green" laws. Purchasing "green" hydro power from Quebec is not "green". They feel the increase in cost isn't bad, after all their stockholders have to have enough of a dividend to make it worth while to hold on to the stock. I say a little is better than nothing. Why be greedy? Not to mention the political contibutions. More greed.
GrnMtnBoy

United States

#39 Dec 17, 2010
The Real Plant Manager wrote:
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2% back into the grid. That's it. This is nothing but a moneymaker for the investors.
You are basing your opinion solely because you are a lumberjack. That is no different, and just as selfish (as you would describe it) as any NIMBY.
2% Deny the proof, prove my point.
Money maker? Of course, they aren't doing it as a donation. The present utility companys do it to make money. Ever hear of one going broke?

Should Harvey go back into logging...so what? A man has to make a living. No one is going to get rich strictly supplying a wood fired plant with low grade logs. There isn't a logger out there that cuts strictly pulpwood. There is not enough profit to pay for the stumpage, fuel, equipment, taxes, insurance, and have enough to pay for groceries and housing.

2%. Build 5 of them and it becomes 10%. Build 50 and it becomes 100%. It doesn't matter how many. One is adding to the grid. That's 2% less from coal. And it;s generated here in VT adding to the tax base, the job market, etc..
JKing

Bennington, VT

#40 Feb 25, 2011
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