Biomass plan draws protest

Biomass plan draws protest

There are 241 comments on the Bennington Banner story from Nov 14, 2010, titled Biomass plan draws protest. In it, Bennington Banner reports that:

Some two dozen area residents from Vermont and Massachusetts demonstrated Saturday in opposition to a proposed 29.5-megawatt biomass electricity generating and wood pellet manufacturing facility in Pownal.

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Plant Manager

Middlebury, VT

#224 Nov 18, 2010
Denny Haldeman wrote:
Have you even read the reports you posted? They are about the 18th century.
Plant Manager

Middlebury, VT

#225 Nov 18, 2010
Plant Manager wrote:
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OOPS. I just read the NUMBER of violations. 250 violations? We all know that 250 times of the same violation is not an ERROR. How many ERRORS will there be in Pownal? Who will suffer from these errors? The lungs of the people. This is not good.
TruthTellert, you were right to apologize.
Thomas Emero and William Bousquet had been involved with previous incarnations of Beaver Wood Alternate Energy Inc. and GenPower Services LLC racking up $130,000 for air violations for its biomass plant in Chester, Maine, she said. Records received thorugh public information requests in Maine, she continued, found the biomass plant in Ashland, Maine, between 1998 and 2000 had 44 violations for exceeding the limits of carbon monoxide emissions, 126 violations for air opacity, 79 incidents of carbon-emission violations and two nitrous oxides violations
The above is another post with a forged name from an anti-everything nut. This idiot keeps insisting that because a company was fined once, that will always violate permits. If the foger had any brains and guts, he would be discussing facts. Not nonsense.
Plant Manager

Middlebury, VT

#226 Nov 18, 2010
TruthTellert wrote:
<quoted text>
What I meant to say was, it will happen again, son.
Don't have enough brains to have a discussion with facts -- instead of forging names to make your idiot posts?
Plant Manager

Middlebury, VT

#227 Nov 18, 2010
Plant Manager wrote:
<quoted text>
OOPS. I just read the NUMBER of violations. 250 violations? We all know that 250 times of the same violation is not an ERROR. How many ERRORS will there be in Pownal? Who will suffer from these errors? The lungs of the people. This is not good.
TruthTellert, you were right to apologize.
Thomas Emero and William Bousquet had been involved with previous incarnations of Beaver Wood Alternate Energy Inc. and GenPower Services LLC racking up $130,000 for air violations for its biomass plant in Chester, Maine, she said. Records received thorugh public information requests in Maine, she continued, found the biomass plant in Ashland, Maine, between 1998 and 2000 had 44 violations for exceeding the limits of carbon monoxide emissions, 126 violations for air opacity, 79 incidents of carbon-emission violations and two nitrous oxides violations
Another post with a forged name by the resident idiot -- who isn't smart enough to have a discussion with facts.
Plant Manager

Middlebury, VT

#228 Nov 18, 2010
Numbers wrote:
Present facts? OK! Biomass POLLUTES!
Hows that for my first try to day?
DID I GET IT RIGHT?
BIOMASS POLLUTES CORRECT?
The alternatives, coal and oil pollute more. How come you are too stupid to figure that out?
Numbers

Bennington, VT

#229 Nov 18, 2010
Have you even read the reports you posted Plant Manager Williston, VT? They are from Romper Room!
Plant Manager

Middlebury, VT

#230 Nov 18, 2010
Numbers wrote:
Have you even read the reports you posted Plant Manager Williston, VT? They are from Romper Room!
It too bad you can't hold a job son. It would fill your time with something constructive, instead of being the Village Idiot here.
Numbers

Bennington, VT

#231 Nov 18, 2010
Plant Manager Williston, VT if you read my posts you would know my employment status and the constructive comments I have posted!

Village Idiot? You ust be talking about yourself because I don't live in the villiage, I live in the town!
Inquirying Mind

Arlington, VT

#232 Nov 18, 2010
Tired of the BS wrote:
What would be a good use of the track property?
Maybe we should revisit the original ideas of "The progress partners". When they first bought the property they had all kinds of ideas about how to use the track AND make Pownal better. Of course back then there were other names associated with this group and at that time you never heard from Chic. Now he seems to be the only person involved and our only option is an incinerator.
Good idea! We should check with the "Progres Partners". By the way, does anyone know the names of the "Progress Partners". Is James Paqua still one - he wanted to put Vermont Made Products and a farmer's market at the site along with a diner. He also talked about homes, etc Are Richard & Robert Hein still partners? They were going to bring a "Big Film Presence" to the site. Richard said "No agriculturual or green space will be lost due to park development". Is Steven Sonnenblick still one? Or did he leave after his father sued the Heins and Paqua for an unpaid loan? How about Sandy Zimmerman or Frank Cantatore? Are they partners? Is Chic a partner or just the front person? Chick was quoted as saying something like ...the phones are ringing off the hook with people wanting to book the space for their event. So much so that he had to turn down the Tri State Fair. Why did the Car Show leave? I am sure all those people that are calling to book their events are thinking twice now. Progress Partners seem to be all silent partners now except for Chic.
Plant Manager

Bennington, VT

#233 Nov 18, 2010
Plant Manager wrote:
<quoted text>
The above is another post with a forged name from an anti-everything nut. This idiot keeps insisting that because a company was fined once, that will always violate permits. If the foger had any brains and guts, he would be discussing facts. Not nonsense.
Oh shoot! I just realized what I typed.

I wrote, once a company was fined, ONCE, but what I meant to write was, once a company has been fined 250 times, that it will not violate permits again.

But, as I read that back to myself, Once a company violated the permits 250 TIMES they won't ever do it again.

I realize how stupid that sounds. OF course they will do it again.

GrnMtnBoy, call me. We have to talk
Numbers

Bennington, VT

#234 Nov 18, 2010
Plant Manager Bennington, VT you are so much more intelligent than that other Plant Manager!
GrnMtnBoy

Roy, WA

#235 Nov 19, 2010
Get all the facts, please check out:
http://nafoalliance.org/wp-content/uploads/Bi...

"Finally, biomass power facilities generally contribute to a reduction of greenhouse gases beyond just the displacement of fossil fuels. The use of forest fuels in a modern boiler also eliminates the methane (CH4) emissions from incomplete oxidation following open burning, land filling, or decomposition which occurs in the absence of a higher and better use for this material. Methane is a 25 times more powerful greenhouse gas than CO2. In contrast, the mining of coal and exploration for oil and gas release significant amounts of methane and other harmful pollutants into the environment. Any modeling to examine the impact of carbon-based fuel sources must account for all of these impacts."
Plant Manager

Bennington, VT

#236 Nov 19, 2010
GrnMtnBoy wrote:
Get all the facts, please check out:
http://nafoalliance.org/wp-content/uploads/Bi...
"Finally, biomass power facilities generally contribute to a reduction of greenhouse gases beyond just the displacement of fossil fuels. The use of forest fuels in a modern boiler also eliminates the methane (CH4) emissions from incomplete oxidation following open burning, land filling, or decomposition which occurs in the absence of a higher and better use for this material. Methane is a 25 times more powerful greenhouse gas than CO2. In contrast, the mining of coal and exploration for oil and gas release significant amounts of methane and other harmful pollutants into the environment. Any modeling to examine the impact of carbon-based fuel sources must account for all of these impacts."
Here is a fact that you won't find in there:

Thomas Emero and William Bousquet had been involved with previous incarnations of Beaver Wood Alternate Energy Inc. and GenPower Services LLC racking up $130,000 for air violations for its biomass plant in Chester, Maine, she said. Records received thorugh public information requests in Maine, she continued, found the biomass plant in Ashland, Maine, between 1998 and 2000 had 44 violations for exceeding the limits of carbon monoxide emissions, 126 violations for air opacity, 79 incidents of carbon-emission violations and two nitrous oxides violations
GrnMtnBoy

Roy, WA

#237 Nov 19, 2010
Well, so me the source of the statement. I want to get it from the horse's mouth.
GrnMtnBoy

Roy, WA

#238 Nov 19, 2010
Well, show me the source of the statement. I want to get it from the horse's mouth.
Numbers

Bennington, VT

#239 Nov 19, 2010
BIOMASS POLLUTES! NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY, BIOMASS POLLUTES! 7246
Kevin Hoyt

Bennington, VT

#241 Nov 29, 2010
Numbers wrote:
No such thing as zero emissions? LIE! Yes there is! NO BIOMASS PLANT = ZERO EMISSIONS! THATS MY GOAL! ZERO EMISSIONS! THATS MY GOAL! ZERO EMISSIONS! THATS MY GOAL! ZERO EMISSIONS! THATS MY GOAL!
I guess it's back to the stone age and zero emissions - that's your goal??? I personally like having power and flush toilets are OK too.
Kevin Hoyt

Bennington, VT

#242 Nov 29, 2010
Hunter wrote:
I don't understand this newfangled Kevin Hoyt who I am hearing speak in support of the Pownal Biomass Plant. Kevin I thought you were all about the animals and the environment? This Biomass is going to suck and smother the life out of everything natural. How can you be in favor of that? Did that weed finally warp your brain? Just because you need a job doesn't mean you have to be sellout for everything you have stood for all these years. I use to be a supporter but now I am very disappointed in you and angry at you!
Sorry to dissapoint you and I have not changed... I am still a conservationist and in favor of anything tat helps the wildlife. I hate for anyone to think I was a sell out, but I do believe that more logging (i.e. Biomass) will help our State and our wildlife. I am not falling for the "hype" from the residents of Massachusetts and I have done my own research on this NEW technology and NEW Biomass plant... I think it's just what our State needs and although I am concerned about the enviroment, I don't believe the facility is cause for concern; at least not all the fuss the people from the Seirra club are making. You shouldn't take my word either - do the research for yourself.
Concerned

Bennington, VT

#243 Nov 29, 2010
There will never be Zero Emissions-Mother Nature is busy producing more than man can ever hope to produce. Example 6 Billion people breathing, belching and Flatuating, plus all the animals, cows, sheep, pigs and other living creaures doing the same, to begin with. Then we have the Valcanos and undersea leaks of various toxic materials.

There will never be Zero Emissions-Mother Nature is busy producing more than man can ever hope to produce. Example 6 Billion people that breath, belch and Flatulence, plus all the animals, cows, sheep, pigs and other living creatures doing the same, to begin with. Then we have the Volcanoes and undersea leaks of various toxic materials. Watch the TLC, NatGEO, and History Channels for proof of Mother Nature the prime polluter.
http://www.ace.mmu.ac.uk/eae/Air_Quality/Olde...

http://www.apcb.org/air_monitoring/natural_po...
Natural and anthropogenic pollution
Pollution can be caused both by natural sources and humans. Volcanic eruptions are an example of natural sources of pollution. When a volcano explodes, it releases sulfur dioxide, carbon monoxide, solid particles, and other materials into the air at a much greater rate than is normally the case. Plants, animals, and humans may be killed or injured by these materials.
A concrete example of natural pollution can be found at an area known as the Smoking Hills, located in a remote wilderness in the Canadian Arctic. The local environment around Smoking Hills is virtually uninfluenced by humans. However, naturally occurring low-grade coal deposits found in the area have spontaneously ignited from time to time, causing the release of clouds of sulfur dioxide over the nearby tundra.
As this gas is carried to Earth's surface, soil and freshwater become acidified. At some level, this acidification causes metals to become soluble (able to be dissolved). The toxicity (poisons) associated with sulfur dioxide, acidity, and soluble metals at the Smoking Hills has caused great damage to the structure and function of the local ecosystem.

Read more: Pollution - humans, examples, body, used, water, Earth, life, plants, chemical, form, energy, methods, reaction, gas, animals, system, carbon, oxygen, air http://www.scienceclarified.com/Ph-Py/Polluti...
Kevin Hoyt

Bennington, VT

#244 Nov 29, 2010
Great post by concerned... the fact remains that owning a small dog leaves a bigger carbon footprint than owning an SUV, but they don't want to hear that. This is about a balance and our dependance on foreign oil. We need logging and jobs... and this is an alternative energy source that seems acceptable to me. Don't fall for the hype, do your own research and you will see that Biomass makes sense for the planet and for Vermont.

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