Biomass generates hearings, forums

Biomass generates hearings, forums

There are 57 comments on the Bennington Banner story from Nov 16, 2010, titled Biomass generates hearings, forums. In it, Bennington Banner reports that:

A number of hearings and other events centered around the Beaver Wood biomass proposals in Pownal and Fair Haven are scheduled in the next few days.

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Numbers

Bennington, VT

#1 Nov 17, 2010
Biomass generates hearings, forums
Posted: 11/16/2010 10:59:31 PM EST

Tuesday November 16, 2010

POWNAL -- A number of hearings and other events centered around the Beaver Wood biomass proposals in Pownal and Fair Haven are scheduled in the next few days.

On Wednesday, Nov. 17 at 7 p.m., Josh Schlossberg, an opponent of biomass electricity generation, is scheduled to give a talk on the topic at Fair Haven Elementary School. BE HERE FOR THE TRUTH!

The Bennington County Regional Commission is expected to discuss the Pownal facility at its meeting Thursday, Nov. 18, beginning at 5 p.m. at St. Margaret Mary Church’s Parish Hall in Arlington. Thomas Emero of Beaver Wood is on the agenda. BE HERE TO QUESTION THE LIAR!

The PSB is scheduled to discuss the Pownal and Fair Haven facilities on Friday, Nov. 19, at 1 p.m. in the PSB Hearing Room on the third floor of the Chittenden Bank, 112 State St., Montpelier. The pre-hearing conferences are open to the public and are expected to lay out the schedule of future hearings and deadlines. BE HERE FOR THIS ONE!

A public forum Saturday, Nov. 20, will take place in Williamstown, Mass., at 4 p.m. in Fellowship Hall at the First Congregational Church. The event is sponsored by the Bennington-Berkshire Citizens Coalition, the newly formed group that combines the two "Concern Citizens" groups from Pownal and Williamstown. The event includes panelists opposed to biomass electricity production, including Hillary Lister, a resident of Athens, Maine, where a biomass facility was closed in 2002 after public opposition and failure to meet state air quality standards. BE HERE FOR THE TRUTH!

Project opponents will protest at Field Park in Williamstown, Mass., on Friday, Nov. 19, from 3:30 to 5 p. m. and at the northern entrance of the former Green Mountain Race Track on Saturday, Nov. 20, from 9 to 11 a. m. BE HERE TO SHOW YOUR SUPPORT AGAINST POLLUTION!
TruthTellert

Bennington, VT

#3 Nov 17, 2010
GrnMtnBoy wrote:
It's one sided.
Present the WHOLE subject not just the NIMBY/ANTI side of it.
Well, GrnMtnBoy, as we discussed. They do have a point.

I will be there this Saturday, because I don't want a company coming in this town that breaks the law so many times at the health expense of its neighboring residents. 250 careless violations that caused the innocent people to breath in toxins. How unfair is that??

Those violations were times when innocent children were out playing... maybe you were enjoying the fresh air, unaware that the air was actually filled with toxins.

Maybe you were watching your grandchildren playing outside, unaware that they were breathing in toxins, and so were you.

Maybe you already have breathing issues, and you were outside one of those nice days when you thought today will be a good air quality day, but it wasn't.

250 violations is not a couple mistakes. It's worth fighting for.

See you Saturday!

Thomas Emero and William Bousquet had been involved with previous incarnations of Beaver Wood — Alternate Energy Inc. and GenPower Services LLC — racking up $130,000 for air violations for its biomass plant in Chester, Maine, she said. Records received thorugh public information requests in Maine, she continued, found the biomass plant in Ashland, Maine, between 1998 and 2000 had 44 violations for exceeding the limits of carbon monoxide emissions, 126 violations for air opacity, 79 incidents of carbon-emission violations and two nitrous oxides violations
Numbers

Bennington, VT

#4 Nov 17, 2010
Present the WHOLE subject not just the NIMBY/ANTI side of it?

OK LETS HEAR IT GrnMtnBoy United States???????

The floor is yours lets hear it!
Plant Manager

Middlebury, VT

#7 Nov 17, 2010
TruthTellert wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, GrnMtnBoy, as we discussed. They do have a point.
I will be there this Saturday, because I don't want a company coming in this town that breaks the law so many times at the health expense of its neighboring residents. 250 careless violations that caused the innocent people to breath in toxins. How unfair is that??
Those violations were times when innocent children were out playing... maybe you were enjoying the fresh air, unaware that the air was actually filled with toxins.
Maybe you were watching your grandchildren playing outside, unaware that they were breathing in toxins, and so were you.
Maybe you already have breathing issues, and you were outside one of those nice days when you thought today will be a good air quality day, but it wasn't.
250 violations is not a couple mistakes. It's worth fighting for.
See you Saturday!
Thomas Emero and William Bousquet had been involved with previous incarnations of Beaver Wood — Alternate Energy Inc. and GenPower Services LLC — racking up $130,000 for air violations for its biomass plant in Chester, Maine, she said. Records received thorugh public information requests in Maine, she continued, found the biomass plant in Ashland, Maine, between 1998 and 2000 had 44 violations for exceeding the limits of carbon monoxide emissions, 126 violations for air opacity, 79 incidents of carbon-emission violations and two nitrous oxides violations
Looks like Mr. Numbers is forging posts again with someone else's name. Its the mark of man who lacks the mental abilities to have an intelligent discussion with facts.
alie

Williamstown, MA

#8 Nov 17, 2010
such a hullabaloo!! if these people put as much time into honest work as they do protesting we'd ALL have jobs to go to instead of discouraginf every single business idea that wants to come into the area.
GrnMtnBoy

United States

#9 Nov 17, 2010
Plant Manager wrote:
<quoted text>
Looks like Mr. Numbers is forging posts again with someone else's name. Its the mark of man who lacks the mental abilities to have an intelligent discussion with facts.
We've been saying that for weeks. He just doesn't get it.
Plant Manager

Bennington, VT

#10 Nov 17, 2010
Plant Manager wrote:
<quoted text>
Looks like Mr. Numbers is forging posts again with someone else's name. Its the mark of man who lacks the mental abilities to have an intelligent discussion with facts.
Hold your horses! I just realized something.

250 violations is not a couple mistakes. It's worth fighting for.

Thomas Emero and William Bousquet had been involved with previous incarnations of Beaver Wood — Alternate Energy Inc. and GenPower Services LLC — racking up $130,000 for air violations for its biomass plant in Chester, Maine, she said. Records received thorugh public information requests in Maine, she continued, found the biomass plant in Ashland, Maine, between 1998 and 2000 had 44 violations for exceeding the limits of carbon monoxide emissions, 126 violations for air opacity, 79 incidents of carbon-emission violations and two nitrous oxides violations
Plant Manager

Bennington, VT

#11 Nov 17, 2010
alie wrote:
such a hullabaloo!! if these people put as much time into honest work as they do protesting we'd ALL have jobs to go to instead of discouraginf every single business idea that wants to come into the area.
Hi Alie (Alice),

I will be there this Saturday, because I don't want a company coming in this town that breaks the law so many times at the health expense of its neighboring residents. 250 careless violations that caused the innocent people to breath in toxins. How unfair is that??

Those violations were times when innocent children were out playing... maybe you were enjoying the fresh air, unaware that the air was actually filled with toxins.

Maybe you were watching your grandchildren playing outside, unaware that they were breathing in toxins, and so were you.

Maybe you already have breathing issues, and you were outside one of those nice days when you thought today will be a good air quality day, but it wasn't.

250 violations is not a couple mistakes. It's worth fighting for.

See you Saturday, Alie (Alice)

Thomas Emero and William Bousquet had been involved with previous incarnations of Beaver Wood — Alternate Energy Inc. and GenPower Services LLC — racking up $130,000 for air violations for its biomass plant in Chester, Maine, she said. Records received thorugh public information requests in Maine, she continued, found the biomass plant in Ashland, Maine, between 1998 and 2000 had 44 violations for exceeding the limits of carbon monoxide emissions, 126 violations for air opacity, 79 incidents of carbon-emission violations and two nitrous oxides violations
Numbers

Bennington, VT

#12 Nov 17, 2010
Oh looky a fake Numbers from United States trying be be just like ME the original Numbers.

Oh looky Plant Manager from Williston, VT the same place the original Evil TruthTellert posts were coming from.

Looky Looky Looky! Biomass fakes and liars all over the place!

They are supporting POLLUTION SPEWING BIOMASS PLANTS! What a bunch of idiots supporting these get rich schemes!
Numbers

Bennington, VT

#13 Nov 17, 2010
Time for another coffee....
GrnMtnBoy

Roy, WA

#14 Nov 17, 2010
the new solar energy facility in Pittsfield:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/15/larg...
Well let's look at the numbers:$9.4 million to provide energy for 300 homes
equals $31,333/home! What's the payback time on that 30 years?

Some say that huge cost is worth it given the fact that solar energy is
"carbon free". The reality is that the manufacture and transportation of
solar panels incurs a substantial "carbon debt" especially if they are made
in China where most of their power comes from coal. So solar panels may not
be much better than using gas:
http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2008/03/the-ug...

Solar thermal is 2-3X as efficient as photovoltaics and can be relatively
cost effective so the same argument about solar efficiency can be made just
as the anti-forestry people make the argument about biomass efficiency. So
why are we providing huge subsidies for inefficient solar photovoltaic
systems?

Compare biomass cost versus solar cost: biomass costs $2.5 million/MW while
solar costs $5.2 million/MW (check these numbers).
Since biomass is really stored solar energy, then it really is a no brainer
on what systems should get the subsidies. Plus biomass provides enormous
other benefits such as greatly improved forestry and thousands of new jobs
that will never be outsourced to China.

MAKE IT IN AMERICA

More info coming
Numbers

Bennington, VT

#15 Nov 17, 2010
Whats the matter GrnMtnBoy United States, where ya been, did you give up on that High Pollutant Biomass Waste Incinerator?

$2.5 million/MW to injure and kill people with pollution? I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!
GrnMtnBoy

Roy, WA

#16 Nov 17, 2010
Some people have to work to support you welfare recipients
Numbers

Bennington, VT

#17 Nov 17, 2010
GrnMtnBoy United States you obviously have a problem with welfare recipients!

Welfare recipients have filled out and filed the applications and have been approved so what is your problem with them?

I worked for everything and if I needed welfare I of anyone would deserve to get it!
Plant Manager

Bennington, VT

#18 Nov 17, 2010
GrnMtnBoy wrote:
the new solar energy facility in Pittsfield:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/15/larg...
Well let's look at the numbers:$9.4 million to provide energy for 300 homes
equals $31,333/home! What's the payback time on that 30 years?
Some say that huge cost is worth it given the fact that solar energy is
"carbon free". The reality is that the manufacture and transportation of
solar panels incurs a substantial "carbon debt" especially if they are made
in China where most of their power comes from coal. So solar panels may not
be much better than using gas:
http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2008/03/the-ug...
Solar thermal is 2-3X as efficient as photovoltaics and can be relatively
cost effective so the same argument about solar efficiency can be made just
as the anti-forestry people make the argument about biomass efficiency. So
why are we providing huge subsidies for inefficient solar photovoltaic
systems?
Compare biomass cost versus solar cost: biomass costs $2.5 million/MW while
solar costs $5.2 million/MW (check these numbers).
Since biomass is really stored solar energy, then it really is a no brainer
on what systems should get the subsidies. Plus biomass provides enormous
other benefits such as greatly improved forestry and thousands of new jobs
that will never be outsourced to China.
MAKE IT IN AMERICA
More info coming
GrnMtnBoy, I just phone TruthTellert. Your phone is busy, so I guess you might be on the phone with TruthTellert.

We made a big mistake asking everyone to prove all the pollution lies we THOUGHT they were pulling out of thin air. We should not have pushed so hard. It seems they were not lying! It is a fact that Beaverwood was in violation 250 times.

250 times they blatantly violated the laws put into place to protect the surrounding community. How many times will these laws be broken in Pownal? 250 more? Even 1 more won't be tolerated.

I'll try to call you later to discuss. While you wait, read this:

Thomas Emero and William Bousquet had been involved with previous incarnations of Beaver Wood — Alternate Energy Inc. and GenPower Services LLC — racking up $130,000 for air violations for its biomass plant in Chester, Maine, she said. Records received thorugh public information requests in Maine, she continued, found the biomass plant in Ashland, Maine, between 1998 and 2000 had 44 violations for exceeding the limits of carbon monoxide emissions, 126 violations for air opacity, 79 incidents of carbon-emission violations and two nitrous oxides violations
Rainbow Power

Ft Mitchell, KY

#19 Nov 17, 2010
What if we were to... just follow me on this.. extract power out of Maple syrup, hugs, and rainbows. Would anyone find any pollutants in that??
Numbers

Bennington, VT

#20 Nov 17, 2010
Interesting question! Maybe, but not as much as what comes out of the planned Pownal and Fair Haven Vermont biomass incinerators!
Concerned

Manchester Center, VT

#21 Nov 17, 2010
Rainbow Power wrote:
What if we were to... just follow me on this.. extract power out of Maple syrup, hugs, and rainbows. Would anyone find any pollutants in that??
What a lovely idea- GROUP HUG EVERYONE! Ah! if only we could.

Folks has ana one noticed that there are soooooooooooooo MANY people from “Cambridge, MA” interested in Vermont affairs. That seems a tab odd!
Numbers

Bennington, VT

#22 Nov 17, 2010
What soooooooooooooo MANY people from “Cambridge, MA” are interested in Vermont affairs?

21 posts in this one forum are from the following IP locations!

Cambridge, MA
United States
Bennington, VT
Williston, VT
Williamstown, MA
Gray, ME
Chesterfield, MO

Only one of them, MINE shows Cambridge, MA under my username!

What is interesting or odd about that?
Random Address

Ft Mitchell, KY

#23 Nov 17, 2010
This website posts a random addres for people. I am in Springfield, Mass

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