acts 10-47

Somerset, KY

#142 Apr 4, 2009
Can any man forbid water, that these should NOT be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Does this say they received the holy ghost before they were Baptized?

Since: Mar 09

London, KY

#143 Apr 4, 2009
Hope you all make it. I'am gone
waz up

London, KY

#144 Apr 4, 2009
perkins church believes in Falling from Grace... I believe once saved always saved.. If you had to be saved every time you sinned you could never truly be saved then.. my bible says we all sin ,but we pray for God to forgive us of our daily sins....even Paul Perkins is not above sin..and if you are saved and not baptized that does not mean you go to hell,if that was true people saved on their death beds would go to hell,My God does it right the first time,he don't have to go back and do it over.PERKINS teachings scare the heck outa me,went there a time or two when I was young...
Hello

Burnside, KY

#145 Apr 4, 2009
So when Judas Betrayed Jesus, and commited suicide he was saved??? Sounds like to me he fell from grace
waz up wrote:
perkins church believes in Falling from Grace... I believe once saved always saved.. If you had to be saved every time you sinned you could never truly be saved then.. my bible says we all sin ,but we pray for God to forgive us of our daily sins....even Paul Perkins is not above sin..and if you are saved and not baptized that does not mean you go to hell,if that was true people saved on their death beds would go to hell,My God does it right the first time,he don't have to go back and do it over.PERKINS teachings scare the heck outa me,went there a time or two when I was young...
hmmmm

Manchester, KY

#146 Apr 4, 2009
Hello wrote:
So when Judas Betrayed Jesus, and commited suicide he was saved??? Sounds like to me he fell from grace
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Judas was never under grace, the Comforter had yet to come. As someone also mentioned when I spoke about the thief not being baptized. Second, if I'm not mistaken, the Bible states that Judas repented unto himself, not unto God. Judas never had the faith and I believe John even wrote that he may have been a thief.
Hello

Burnside, KY

#147 Apr 5, 2009
Ok...well whatever you all obviousley (yes that is sarcasm) know more than all of us Pentecostal people.....and it's obviously want to argue, because everything we have talked about you have said was wrong....that is the bad part about it you wont believe the Bible, when you have been given scripture for things, you find something else to argue about. You all enjoy what life you have down here.....
Hello

Burnside, KY

#148 Apr 5, 2009
And besides that....how did he repent for hanging himself??? You can not repent if you hang yourself....because that is murder....but then if you can't never be lost then I dont guess there is no reason to go to church, if once you have been saved then there is no reason to try to live a Christian life....where in the Bible does it say once in grace always in grace??? That don't make sense if you can never fall from grace then why do you live right??? Why go to church after you accept the Lord? If you can do whatever you want and never be lost again why not just live the way you want to?
hmmmmm

Manchester, KY

#149 Apr 5, 2009
Hello wrote:
And besides that....how did he repent for hanging himself??? You can not repent if you hang yourself....because that is murder....but then if you can't never be lost then I dont guess there is no reason to go to church, if once you have been saved then there is no reason to try to live a Christian life....where in the Bible does it say once in grace always in grace??? That don't make sense if you can never fall from grace then why do you live right??? Why go to church after you accept the Lord? If you can do whatever you want and never be lost again why not just live the way you want to?
he repented unto himself for what he had done by betraying Jesus, after he gave back the 30 pieces. I never said anything about everyone being saved. I don't have my Bible in front of me, but Paul said "God Forbid", when speaking of willfull sin while under grace. People believe once saved always saved, but that doesn't mean get saved today and live like the devil tomorrow. A person who truly becomes wouldn't want to live like that. They have become a new creation in Christ.
Pentrcostal

East Bernstadt, KY

#150 Apr 5, 2009
I am pentrcostal, I DO NOT believe the way you do, I believe in God not just Jesus. So don't say all pentrcostal because Jesus Name is different form us.You want everone to believe the way you do NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. People as long as you have the right heart its all cleared up between you and God then you can go set on a stump,ans worship and make it to Heaven.That is a fact. Now lets get ready for Church and go Prasie the Lord for all his love and grace he has showen us this week. God be with you all.
yep

Decorah, IA

#151 Apr 5, 2009
Pentrcostal wrote:
I am pentrcostal, I DO NOT believe the way you do, I believe in God not just Jesus. So don't say all pentrcostal because Jesus Name is different form us.You want everone to believe the way you do NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. People as long as you have the right heart its all cleared up between you and God then you can go set on a stump,ans worship and make it to Heaven.That is a fact. Now lets get ready for Church and go Prasie the Lord for all his love and grace he has showen us this week. God be with you all.
SO RIGHT SO SO RIGHT!! I'm really glad you posted this!
Hello

Burnside, KY

#152 Apr 5, 2009
Do you know what seperates the Jesus Name people from all the other Christian Religions??? The fact that they do not follow the Catholic theory of the Trinity....You call yourself Pentecostals, but the original Pentecostals back in Acts 2:38 believed in Jesus Name Baptism!!! Why did Peter tell the people plainly to Repent, and be baptized in the NAME of Jesus Christ.....why didnt he use the formula in Matthew 28:19? In Matthew 1:23 read it "Behold, a virgin shall be with child,and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is God with us", Singular......That means according to Matthew Jesus is God....now answer me this, if Jesus was the "Son", then why didnt it say that, Genesis 1:1 says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth", if there are 3 Gods then why didnt it say, in the beginning the Gods created the heavens and the earth....? Why can't people understand, the scripture that they repeat so many times.....Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name...just one....of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Jesus was the Father in creation, Jesus, was the Son, in redemption, and Jesus is the Holy Ghost in regeneration. No matter what anyone thinks, believes or teaches the word of God is clear, you have to understand these things.....Like I have said many times before, people finds fault with certain things that the Jesus Name people believe.....no they arent saying that Tv altogether is wrong, but when you look at it as a whole....yeah while there might be religious programs on tv, and channels that are inspirational.....the majority of of things on tv is not fit to watch.....yeah I agree that radio is just as bad, but to keep the temptation of tv out of your mind, is alot harder than the worldly things on radio, the temptation of the eyes, is alot more powerful, than what you hear. Let me say this, I know that people likes to have enough religion to make them feel good....they don't want to hear anything that makes them look like they are wrong....so if you can show me in the KJV Bible anything about the Jesus Name people being wrong, then I will appologize with a sincere heart.....I have no worries about that because everything that the true Jesus Name people preaches as far as Salvation is concerened, is in the Bible....I'm not talking about standards.....I'm talking Salvation.....
waz up

London, KY

#153 Apr 5, 2009
Hello wrote:
And besides that....how did he repent for hanging himself??? You can not repent if you hang yourself....because that is murder....but then if you can't never be lost then I dont guess there is no reason to go to church, if once you have been saved then there is no reason to try to live a Christian life....where in the Bible does it say once in grace always in grace??? That don't make sense if you can never fall from grace then why do you live right??? Why go to church after you accept the Lord? If you can do whatever you want and never be lost again why not just live the way you want to?
because once you r saved you have the desire to go to church and live for christ and do the best you can to witness for him and to gather with your other brothers and sisters to worship and fellowship together.Is that not what we supposed to do ?
word

Somerset, KY

#154 Apr 5, 2009
Hello wrote:
Do you know what seperates the Jesus Name people from all the other Christian Religions??? The fact that they do not follow the Catholic theory of the Trinity....You call yourself Pentecostals, but the original Pentecostals back in Acts 2:38 believed in Jesus Name Baptism!!! Why did Peter tell the people plainly to Repent, and be baptized in the NAME of Jesus Christ.....why didnt he use the formula in Matthew 28:19? In Matthew 1:23 read it "Behold, a virgin shall be with child,and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is God with us", Singular......That means according to Matthew Jesus is God....now answer me this, if Jesus was the "Son", then why didnt it say that, Genesis 1:1 says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth", if there are 3 Gods then why didnt it say, in the beginning the Gods created the heavens and the earth....? Why can't people understand, the scripture that they repeat so many times.....Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name...just one....of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Jesus was the Father in creation, Jesus, was the Son, in redemption, and Jesus is the Holy Ghost in regeneration. No matter what anyone thinks, believes or teaches the word of God is clear, you have to understand these things.....Like I have said many times before, people finds fault with certain things that the Jesus Name people believe.....no they arent saying that Tv altogether is wrong, but when you look at it as a whole....yeah while there might be religious programs on tv, and channels that are inspirational.....the majority of of things on tv is not fit to watch.....yeah I agree that radio is just as bad, but to keep the temptation of tv out of your mind, is alot harder than the worldly things on radio, the temptation of the eyes, is alot more powerful, than what you hear. Let me say this, I know that people likes to have enough religion to make them feel good....they don't want to hear anything that makes them look like they are wrong....so if you can show me in the KJV Bible anything about the Jesus Name people being wrong, then I will appologize with a sincere heart.....I have no worries about that because everything that the true Jesus Name people preaches as far as Salvation is concerened, is in the Bible....I'm not talking about standards.....I'm talking Salvation.....
acts 10-47
word

Somerset, KY

#155 Apr 5, 2009
word wrote:
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acts 10-47
Can any man forbid water, that these should NOT be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Does this say they received the holy ghost before they were Baptized?
Hello

Burnside, KY

#156 Apr 5, 2009
Yes sometimes you do recieve the Holy Ghost before your baptized.
truth

Manchester, KY

#157 Apr 5, 2009
Hello wrote:
Yes sometimes you do recieve the Holy Ghost before your baptized.
My preacher says you don't get the Holy Spirit til you have been baptized. If a man claims to have recieved the spirit, but for whatever reason he doesn't get baptized, then that man is going to hell.
Pentrcostal

East Bernstadt, KY

#158 Apr 5, 2009
Why can't you just go to your Church and believe what ever you want to and STOP pushing this? You do what is right for you we will do the same. You want to argue every point that is made. Everybody believes what he or she does and so do you. This is wrong in trying to prove your point. Leave it ALONE. Your making your church look bad because you can't just let it go you said in a few post back you were done then you became Timothy whatever now your back to hello and still going. Go to Church worship do what you feel is right for yourself and the rest of us will do the same. FREEWILL I believe its called??? Your not trying to win anybody to heaven you want to prove your RIGHT and that is NOT going to happen. LET IT GO!!!
Hello wrote:
Do you know what seperates the Jesus Name people from all the other Christian Religions??? The fact that they do not follow the Catholic theory of the Trinity....You call yourself Pentecostals, but the original Pentecostals back in Acts 2:38 believed in Jesus Name Baptism!!! Why did Peter tell the people plainly to Repent, and be baptized in the NAME of Jesus Christ.....why didnt he use the formula in Matthew 28:19? In Matthew 1:23 read it "Behold, a virgin shall be with child,and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is God with us", Singular......That means according to Matthew Jesus is God....now answer me this, if Jesus was the "Son", then why didnt it say that, Genesis 1:1 says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth", if there are 3 Gods then why didnt it say, in the beginning the Gods created the heavens and the earth....? Why can't people understand, the scripture that they repeat so many times.....Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name...just one....of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Jesus was the Father in creation, Jesus, was the Son, in redemption, and Jesus is the Holy Ghost in regeneration. No matter what anyone thinks, believes or teaches the word of God is clear, you have to understand these things.....Like I have said many times before, people finds fault with certain things that the Jesus Name people believe.....no they arent saying that Tv altogether is wrong, but when you look at it as a whole....yeah while there might be religious programs on tv, and channels that are inspirational.....the majority of of things on tv is not fit to watch.....yeah I agree that radio is just as bad, but to keep the temptation of tv out of your mind, is alot harder than the worldly things on radio, the temptation of the eyes, is alot more powerful, than what you hear. Let me say this, I know that people likes to have enough religion to make them feel good....they don't want to hear anything that makes them look like they are wrong....so if you can show me in the KJV Bible anything about the Jesus Name people being wrong, then I will appologize with a sincere heart.....I have no worries about that because everything that the true Jesus Name people preaches as far as Salvation is concerened, is in the Bible....I'm not talking about standards.....I'm talking Salvation.....
Hello

Burnside, KY

#159 Apr 5, 2009
Well number one, I did not change my name, is it not possible, that there was someone else that was on here.....number two, I am not making my church look bad, and I am not trying to argue, I was simply speaking by beliefs, the original posts were asking if Bro Perkins still preached in Monticello, and someone came on there talking about him, I was defending him, if you feel that standing up for what you believe, and defending a preacher is wrong then maybe your not right, I can not just sit back and let people down him, I'mn sorry if that is wrong, that's just the way I am, oh and another thing, I am not a member of his church, but have very close ties to that church.
Pentrcostal wrote:
Why can't you just go to your Church and believe what ever you want to and STOP pushing this? You do what is right for you we will do the same. You want to argue every point that is made. Everybody believes what he or she does and so do you. This is wrong in trying to prove your point. Leave it ALONE. Your making your church look bad because you can't just let it go you said in a few post back you were done then you became Timothy whatever now your back to hello and still going. Go to Church worship do what you feel is right for yourself and the rest of us will do the same. FREEWILL I believe its called??? Your not trying to win anybody to heaven you want to prove your RIGHT and that is NOT going to happen. LET IT GO!!!
<quoted text>
Louise

Somerset, KY

#160 Apr 5, 2009
Hello wrote:
Well number one, I did not change my name, is it not possible, that there was someone else that was on here.....number two, I am not making my church look bad, and I am not trying to argue, I was simply speaking by beliefs, the original posts were asking if Bro Perkins still preached in Monticello, and someone came on there talking about him, I was defending him, if you feel that standing up for what you believe, and defending a preacher is wrong then maybe your not right, I can not just sit back and let people down him, I'mn sorry if that is wrong, that's just the way I am, oh and another thing, I am not a member of his church, but have very close ties to that church.
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But yet you can run down the other Mr. Perkins ? And people should not defend him ? For the record when you started running Mr.Perkins and saying he was a drunk and this and that . You were saying that to hurt him and the people of his church. Were you not ? So yes in fact that is arguing . Because you had to drag another Pastor into it . When you felt this other Perkin's man was being put down. You had to drag in ANSON a man whom when every one sees me knows he is doing God's work. Just so you could try to make this other Perkins look better.Take the spotlight off of Paul Perkins and throw it on Anson Perkins. That is what you thought you would do. When in reality you only made him look worse. For the record I am not a Baptist. BUT EVEN I KNOW ANSON PERKIN'S IS A MAN OF GOD.
Not right is what you tried to do to Anson Perkin's reputation in your belief that you were defending Paul Perkins. You should be ashamed of yourself. Another thing if you would not have started replying to these posts .Then this thread would have died a long time ago. You , yourself only made it worse. You yourself contributed to hurting the very man's rep. you were trying to defend. Or so you say you were trying to defend him.I do have to question that.
Now if you are smart you will not respond to me and let this thread die.
Hello

Burnside, KY

#161 Apr 5, 2009
Well for the record, I didnt run him down, I was speaking truth, things that actually happened, that is not running people down when you say something about that, it's funny you havent said anything about the people who was running Bro. Paul Perkins down....and it's not arguing when you are stating what you believe...thats called standing up for what you believe....like you said you believe your way and I will believe my way, but dont say that I drug someone into the conversation.....someone else brought him up.

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