Human Tech Dormant... now exploding..why????

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#1 Nov 27, 2012
Thousands years we burned fire & rode horses ..... Why in the last 100 or so years are we now flying , computers ....has the higher power got a plan ? Or why has man got so tech savvy so fast ...

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#2 Nov 27, 2012
Riddler of Ridicule wrote:
Thousands years we burned fire & rode horses ..... Why in the last 100 or so years are we now flying , computers ....has the higher power got a plan ? Or why has man got so tech savvy so fast ...
My opinion is that it is not a coincidence that this boom just happened. Obviously, I am LDS (Mormon), as you may have noticed, but I believe that all these advancements happened to advance the spreading of the gospel of Jesus Christ. We believe the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints to be restoration of the Church that Jesus put in place when on earth.
Jesus foretold that before His return, there would be a falling away from His church and then a restitution of all things in preparation for His return.
We believe that this restoration became official in 1830 with the founding of the church that claims to be this restoration. I don't think it is coincidence that these advancements happened after this occurrence. I think it was to provide the means to spread the Gospel to the 4 corners of the earth instantaneously.
Just a thought.

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#3 Nov 27, 2012
Riddler of Ridicule wrote:
Thousands years we burned fire & rode horses ..... Why in the last 100 or so years are we now flying , computers ....has the higher power got a plan ? Or why has man got so tech savvy so fast ...
Once they figured out how things worked such as electricity, airplanes, gas engines. TVs, telephones, record players and transistor radios,(just to name a few minor items) technology went crazy. Look at where we are now. It is amazing how far it has come in only these last 50 years. I don't know about the plan but I do know the Bible says in the last days knowledge shall increase. It has at a very rapid speed. Even I remember being leashed to a telephone wire. Now you can turn your home lights on before you get there with your mobile. Ha! Go figure. Just what one discovery was the catalyst for all of this technology? Your opinion?

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#4 Nov 27, 2012
Sounds like a lack of perspective. You are forgetting the hundreds of thousands/millions of years that we walked around being progressively smarter monkeys.

In all seriousness, it is the nature of things like this that they progress in an exponential fashion. It builds on itself, and that is precisely why we are able to differentiate ourselves from any other species on the planet. We are all capable of "standing on the shoulders of giants", if you will. No other species is.

If one could plot an objective "level of technology" vs time, and you chop out the severe intellectual depression of the "dark ages" caused principally by religion (not God), I'm quite sure that it would be exponential in shape.

In any case it would be nowhere near linear, which individual progress in a given endeavor would be closer to, so it feels amazingly fast. It is actually not.

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#5 Nov 27, 2012
The question concerned the last 100 years, not a million years ago when men were supposedly and erroniously monkeys. Anyone can understand the question without referring to the dark ages. Closer in time to Alex G. Bell, Henry Ford, Wright bros. Einstein, Ben Franklin, a little over a hunndred years ago....None of us here remembers a million years ago. Yes it is coming at a rapid pace. Remember Pac-Man? Now what do we have in gaming tech? Everyday a new and advanced product is being introduced. Todays cooperations took advantage of what the afore mentioned pioneers discovered and ran with it. Expanding it all the time. Look at GE. They made everything from the lightbulb to aircraft.

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#6 Nov 27, 2012
do whut wrote:
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My opinion is that it is not a coincidence that this boom just happened. Obviously, I am LDS (Mormon), as you may have noticed, but I believe that all these advancements happened to advance the spreading of the gospel of Jesus Christ. We believe the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints to be restoration of the Church that Jesus put in place when on earth.
Jesus foretold that before His return, there would be a falling away from His church and then a restitution of all things in preparation for His return.
We believe that this restoration became official in 1830 with the founding of the church that claims to be this restoration. I don't think it is coincidence that these advancements happened after this occurrence. I think it was to provide the means to spread the Gospel to the 4 corners of the earth instantaneously.
Just a thought.
I also believe you have a good point do whut. The use of the satellite has given the spreading of the Gospel a great advantage over the way the old time missionaries had to do it. Not meaning that they should be replaced by any means, but it serves a real purpose in advancing the Kingdom .

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#7 Nov 27, 2012
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>My opinion is that it is not a coincidence that this boom just happened. Obviously, I am LDS (Mormon), as you may have noticed, but I believe that all these advancements happened to advance the spreading of the gospel of Jesus Christ. We believe the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints to be restoration of the Church that Jesus put in place when on earth.
Jesus foretold that before His return, there would be a falling away from His church and then a restitution of all things in preparation for His return.
We believe that this restoration became official in 1830 with the founding of the church that claims to be this restoration. I don't think it is coincidence that these advancements happened after this occurrence. I think it was to provide the means to spread the Gospel to the 4 corners of the earth instantaneously.
Just a thought.
I am not LDS , but I think along those same lines as you JOE DIRT..the rapid advancement could bring rapid end with weapons & such... Perhaps a terminator- postman apocalypse ? It's just mind boggling that 100 years can change the direction of the whole world so drastically .

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#8 Nov 27, 2012
Wings of a Dove wrote:
The question concerned the last 100 years, not a million years ago when men were supposedly and erroniously monkeys. Anyone can understand the question without referring to the dark ages. Closer in time to Alex G. Bell, Henry Ford, Wright bros. Einstein, Ben Franklin, a little over a hunndred years ago....None of us here remembers a million years ago. Yes it is coming at a rapid pace. Remember Pac-Man? Now what do we have in gaming tech? Everyday a new and advanced product is being introduced. Todays cooperations took advantage of what the afore mentioned pioneers discovered and ran with it. Expanding it all the time. Look at GE. They made everything from the lightbulb to aircraft.
You don't get it. So why are you arguing or attempting to correct me on anything? You'd do better to shut up and comprehend the things I write before trying to tell me I'm wrong. There is so much ignorance in your post it pains me, yet you openly criticize me... it's very insulting.

First, the topic began discussing "thousands" of years, and then comparing that to the last 100 years or so. Not that I need any permission to look at the appropriate timescale, but despite your best stupidity, this discussion has always been about comparing a long time ago to fairly recent times.

Second, you are ranting at me and saying that people "took advantage of what the afore mentioned pioneers discovered and ran with it" as if I am not aware. What exactly do you think "standing on the shoulders of giants" means? Again, try reading and comprehending before responding.

Third, you are disputing evolution. A product of science. Based entirely on observable fact and critical thought, just like all of the other things you are discussing.

Fourth, Ben Franklin was born within a decade of the 1600s. Why bring him up if you truly think we're talking about just the last ~100 years? Either you recognize a stupid arbitrary constraint on a discussion when you make one, or you are simply ignorant of his birth date or the dates of agricultural and industrial revolutions (and their significance to the discussion).

Again, you don't get it. Whether you're incapable of getting it or you're just being intentionally stupid because it's a contrary position to mine, I do not care. Your brain is miles behind your mouth consistently when you attempt to argue with me. You reek of ignorance and lack of self control every time you go out of your way to make a response to me that is not warranted. Why you do it, I don't know. You always come out looking worse than you probably are in real life, and I'm not the only one wondering why you don't just learn. My previous posts almost universally address anything you bring up as some sort of counterpoint, as is the case here.

Now... if you'd like to push the reset button on this, read what I said previously, and understand the meaning of the words (and ask questions if you don't understand), please do. I am certainly willing to respond civilly to any civil post you make.

That means don't insult me or my intelligence. That means don't put words in my mouth. That means don't tell me I'm wrong just because I violated some arbitrary time limit you placed on the discussion that others were having. That means don't attempt to baselessly discredit universally accepted scientific theories while discussing scientific advances. I am not willing to stand by and let that pass without appropriate response.

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#9 Nov 27, 2012
Wings of a Dove wrote:
<quoted text>I also believe you have a good point do whut. The use of the satellite has given the spreading of the Gospel a great advantage over the way the old time missionaries had to do it. Not meaning that they should be replaced by any means, but it serves a real purpose in advancing the Kingdom .
I agree. We believe in a modern day prophet as there were in Biblical days as well. It is amazing that now the entire world can hear his advice as he is speaking it. Just 100 years ago it would have taken over a month to deliver a message like that to remote areas of the world.
Of course as these advancements are made, Satan has crept in and made it just as easy to find pornography, instructions for how to make explosive devices, etc using the same tools that were developed for good. But we all have choices to make. Best use of technology and what we allow to enter our home is up to us.

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#10 Nov 27, 2012
Riddler of Ridicule wrote:
<quoted text>I am not LDS , but I think along those same lines as you JOE DIRT..the rapid advancement could bring rapid end with weapons & such... Perhaps a terminator- postman apocalypse ? It's just mind boggling that 100 years can change the direction of the whole world so drastically .
I just watched those terminator movies the other day. I don't know it computers would take over like that, but it is an interesting idea. I think the same type thing could happen one day with a greedy dictator just the same.

I'm glad you're digging the picture. It makes me laugh every time.

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#13 Nov 27, 2012
Riddler of Ridicule wrote:
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I think this subject warrants different views ....different philosophies, as the future is just that. Joe Dirt rules!!!
Sorry Riddler, I try to have conversation with you and others but I have a big mouth intruder that always has to barge his way into everyone's posts with his long and rude books. Has such a narcisstic disorder. I think I will use private message to converse with people if I need to.. This has to be the most irritating idiot Topix has ever encountered. He follows my posts everywhere I go and sticks his nose up my hind end. I will just let Topix go for the most part because I'm just sick and tired of the BS from this psychopath. Ignoring him does not help. He has a mental illness that I can't deal with any more and quite apparently he does not deal with it either. He is obsessed with me, that is clearly apparent here. Not only that, if he truly knew me he would most likely be a stalker. How does one who claims such brilliancy act so psycotic?

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#14 Nov 27, 2012
Sorry *narcissistic* typo

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#15 Nov 27, 2012
Wings of a Dove wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry Riddler, I try to have conversation with you and others but I have a big mouth intruder that always has to barge his way into everyone's posts with his long and rude books. Has such a narcisstic disorder. I think I will use private message to converse with people if I need to.. This has to be the most irritating idiot Topix has ever encountered. He follows my posts everywhere I go and sticks his nose up my hind end. I will just let Topix go for the most part because I'm just sick and tired of the BS from this psychopath. Ignoring him does not help. He has a mental illness that I can't deal with any more and quite apparently he does not deal with it either. He is obsessed with me, that is clearly apparent here. Not only that, if he truly knew me he would most likely be a stalker. How does one who claims such brilliancy act so psycotic?
Hey nutjob... you responded to me, bringing up things that only I stated, insulting me. Not the other way around. Your first post here wasn't even up when I clicked to reply. And "I know you are but what am I" quit working after elementary school. I am no more obsessed with you than I am with any other moron that wants to respond to me as if they know something, though it is sad/hilarious that you repeatedly assume I am attacking you (or even give the slightest bit of a flying ___ about you). Do note that I have repeatedly pointed this out, yet you keep doing it while claiming that I am the one with a mental illness. As I can imagine some redneck saying to you, "You're nuttier than squirrel sh!t."

Also, I do know exactly who you are. I have for many months. R should have told you that much. Are you being stalked? No? Well, I guess that's another stupid theory shot down. As if you're worth stalking anyway.

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#16 Nov 27, 2012
_Ummm_ wrote:
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Hey nutjob... you responded to me, bringing up things that only I stated, insulting me. Not the other way around. Your first post here wasn't even up when I clicked to reply. And "I know you are but what am I" quit working after elementary school. I am no more obsessed with you than I am with any other moron that wants to respond to me as if they know something, though it is sad/hilarious that you repeatedly assume I am attacking you (or even give the slightest bit of a flying ___ about you). Do note that I have repeatedly pointed this out, yet you keep doing it while claiming that I am the one with a mental illness. As I can imagine some redneck saying to you, "You're nuttier than squirrel sh!t."
Also, I do know exactly who you are. I have for many months. R should have told you that much. Are you being stalked? No? Well, I guess that's another stupid theory shot down. As if you're worth stalking anyway.
If you are not obsessed with her, why did you take the time to dig out her name? Or mine for that matter?
What I conclude is this. You are an "atheist", using the term lightly, and she is a christian. And it seems to bother you that you cannot put a dent in her faith. So by saying she is illogical in being steadfast in her faith, you are actually complimenting her. And in being so determined to undermine her, YOU are the one being illogical. You will fail in any attempt to cause her faith to falter. Is this the reason she irritates you so much? Being illogical is being human. Look throughout history. Humanity is VERY illogical. Since you preach logic and treat it like the be all and end all, maybe you should practice you own sermon. Holding the threat of revealing identities is pretty illogical.

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#17 Nov 27, 2012
_Ummm_ wrote:
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Hey nutjob... you responded to me, bringing up things that only I stated, insulting me. Not the other way around. Your first post here wasn't even up when I clicked to reply. And "I know you are but what am I" quit working after elementary school. I am no more obsessed with you than I am with any other moron that wants to respond to me as if they know something, though it is sad/hilarious that you repeatedly assume I am attacking you (or even give the slightest bit of a flying ___ about you). Do note that I have repeatedly pointed this out, yet you keep doing it while claiming that I am the one with a mental illness. As I can imagine some redneck saying to you, "You're nuttier than squirrel sh!t."
Also, I do know exactly who you are. I have for many months. R should have told you that much. Are you being stalked? No? Well, I guess that's another stupid theory shot down. As if you're worth stalking anyway.
Did you tell everyone on here that you think you know this because you hacked my Facebook account? Yes you have the edge on me due to your pathetic illegal acts. Plus the fact that you are also a blackmailer. Threatening to expose people if they make you upset? Did you tell everyone that Between that and being nutty ..I'll take being nutty. I guess this is as good a time as any to tell them.

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#18 Nov 27, 2012
The funny thing about all this is, neither Wings nor I gives a rats ass about who anybody on here is. Certainly not enough to go digging or hacking for names. Makes one wonder who the nutjob REALLY is?
Who is obsessed with whom?

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Since: Feb 12

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#19 Nov 27, 2012
Pibbstraa wrote:
<quoted text>If you are not obsessed with her, why did you take the time to dig out her name? Or mine for that matter?
So you have to be obsessed with somebody to spend 5 minutes of time to see who the wacko is? I think not.
Pibbstraa wrote:
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What I conclude is this. You are an "atheist", using the term lightly, and she is a christian. And it seems to bother you that you cannot put a dent in her faith. So by saying she is illogical in being steadfast in her faith, you are actually complimenting her. And in being so determined to undermine her, YOU are the one being illogical. You will fail in any attempt to cause her faith to falter. Is this the reason she irritates you so much? Being illogical is being human. Look throughout history. Humanity is VERY illogical. Since you preach logic and treat it like the be all and end all, maybe you should practice you own sermon. Holding the threat of revealing identities is pretty illogical.
Your conclusion is wrong. I am not an atheist. I don't attempt to dent anyone's faith, in fact quite the opposite. If I'm attempting to do anything, it's to reinforce their faith by convincing them that it's all they have. There is no evidence to prop it up. Faith stands alone and people need to know that if they're going to claim to have any of it. I don't get how you can say I am trying to damage anyone's faith.

Now, as for your whole "to be human is to be illogical" rabbit hole... what? Let me explain how silly this sounds to me. Let's say that an overwhelming majority of any group have a negative trait. For example, 90% of college students at some school binge alcohol on the weekends. Would "to be a college student is to be a binge drinker" be a valid statement? Of course not.
I readily acknowledge that most people are illogical. But you know who isn't? People who do the things that we are talking about in this very topic. Science. Technology. Improving mankind. Essentially all of the people who do these things are highly logical. There is no option. Without logic mankind does not get better. Without logic, we sit around in the cold dark and run off to poke things with sticks when the sun comes up (if even that). Basically, part of the answer to the question of WHY is technology "exploding" now is: there are far more logical people now.
Wings of a Dove wrote:
<quoted text>Did you tell everyone on here that you think you know this because you hacked my Facebook account?
No. Why would I lie to anyone and tell them that? Are you so dense that you REALLY think I hacked you? No. I did not. Maybe some of those others who showed up way after I already knew who you are did so, but I doubt it. It's far to easy to find you without anything considered "hacking". I mean, it takes mere minutes.
Wings of a Dove wrote:
<quoted text>Yes you have the edge on me due to your pathetic illegal acts. Plus the fact that you are also a blackmailer.
I've done nothing illegal and I have not blackmailed anyone. Do you even know what "blackmail" means? I have nothing to gain or lose by telling everyone your name. I didn't even bring it up here, you did. And I have no idea why.
Pibbstraa wrote:
The funny thing about all this is, neither Wings nor I gives a rats ass about who anybody on here is. Certainly not enough to go digging or hacking for names. Makes one wonder who the nutjob REALLY is?
Who is obsessed with whom?
You make it sound as though I have some real time invested in that. I don't. It took me longer to type all this than to find who you people are. Are you doubting this? Do I need to demonstrate how laughably easy it is?
It doesn't make "one" wonder anything of the sort. I did this back when both of you had a huge boner for me and tried to troll me off of here the first time. If it had taken any time or energy at all, I wouldn't have bothered. It didn't.

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#20 Nov 27, 2012
Thanx. I needed a book to read on the toilet.
Raul Duke

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#21 Nov 28, 2012
_Ummm_ wrote:
Sounds like a lack of perspective. You are forgetting the hundreds of thousands/millions of years that we walked around being progressively smarter monkeys.
In all seriousness, it is the nature of things like this that they progress in an exponential fashion. It builds on itself, and that is precisely why we are able to differentiate ourselves from any other species on the planet. We are all capable of "standing on the shoulders of giants", if you will. No other species is.
If one could plot an objective "level of technology" vs time, and you chop out the severe intellectual depression of the "dark ages" caused principally by religion (not God), I'm quite sure that it would be exponential in shape.
In any case it would be nowhere near linear, which individual progress in a given endeavor would be closer to, so it feels amazingly fast. It is actually not.
Actually from a historical perspective the middle ages was the result of a power vacuum left from the fall of the Roman Empire. Religion was the only thing that held the European continent together until sovereign countries formed out of the Investiture Contest. However it was hardly an intellectual depression as a lot of advances metallurgy, engineering, and architecture were made during this period.

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#22 Nov 28, 2012
Raul Duke wrote:
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Actually from a historical perspective the middle ages was the result of a power vacuum left from the fall of the Roman Empire. Religion was the only thing that held the European continent together until sovereign countries formed out of the Investiture Contest. However it was hardly an intellectual depression as a lot of advances metallurgy, engineering, and architecture were made during this period.
You and I both agree that the fall of the Roman empire was essentially the trigger for this age of human history, but beyond that I think you're looking at it wrong.
You say that religion was the only thing that held Europe together. I would say it a different way. The Catholic church dominated Europe throughout this time period. The church was what people dedicated their lives to by and large, and this happened by persuasion/habit/fear. It was not an environment conducive to expansion of knowledge, and a disproportionate amount of effort was spent on finding ways to build big churches, kill Muslims, and torture heretics than to learn about science for sciences sake. Sure, technology advanced through these avenues and others during this time, just as some people still had jobs and weren't starving during the great depression. Doesn't mean that it wasn't a severe depression.

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