Wayne co. social workers

Wayne co. social workers

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wondering

Bolivar, MO

#1 Mar 4, 2009
I am wondering has anyone ever had problems with any of the workers? Are they fair? Or do they try to trap you so that you never get your kids back no matter how much you DO EVERYTHING they say?Also how long do they stay on someones back? I have heard so many rumors and I have no idea what is true and what is not true. I am so wishing even praying that they are fair and honest. I am a firm beleiver that any one or any depatmentthat holds families future in their hands should be fair that is what worries me so much. Yes I know they say the judge is the one with control but that is NOT true. I have seen cases where a judge gives custody of a child/childern back to the parent because the parent DID EVERYTHING they were told to do even more than they had to do. And then the parent walks out of the courtroom only to find out the workers are still on their back. Almost as if though no matter how much the parent does, how hard they try that it will never be enough. They also accuse people of doing things their NOT doing. I just do not understand WHY a single socail worker would want to tare a mother or father from their child. Now yes if the parent loses a child and shows No improvment then I can see where they could lose in the end. Its just so discourging that they wont leave a parent alone after a parent goes above and beyond what they are even required to do. Well I will shut up. I hope someone can let me know if they will in the end be fair or not. My nephew deserves his child.
spartan

Somerset, KY

#2 Mar 5, 2009
wondering wrote:
I am wondering has anyone ever had problems with any of the workers? Are they fair? Or do they try to trap you so that you never get your kids back no matter how much you DO EVERYTHING they say?Also how long do they stay on someones back? I have heard so many rumors and I have no idea what is true and what is not true. I am so wishing even praying that they are fair and honest. I am a firm beleiver that any one or any depatmentthat holds families future in their hands should be fair that is what worries me so much. Yes I know they say the judge is the one with control but that is NOT true. I have seen cases where a judge gives custody of a child/childern back to the parent because the parent DID EVERYTHING they were told to do even more than they had to do. And then the parent walks out of the courtroom only to find out the workers are still on their back. Almost as if though no matter how much the parent does, how hard they try that it will never be enough. They also accuse people of doing things their NOT doing. I just do not understand WHY a single socail worker would want to tare a mother or father from their child. Now yes if the parent loses a child and shows No improvment then I can see where they could lose in the end. Its just so discourging that they wont leave a parent alone after a parent goes above and beyond what they are even required to do. Well I will shut up. I hope someone can let me know if they will in the end be fair or not. My nephew deserves his child.
i kbow an instance that involves a hispanic person i think was done wrong and is in jail because they dont like him and accused him of doing something i personally dont think he done they took this ladies children for 6 months or so i dont have any faith in some of them
its not about you

Greenbrier, AR

#3 Mar 5, 2009
wondering wrote:
I am wondering has anyone ever had problems with any of the workers? Are they fair?... I hope someone can let me know if they will in the end be fair or not. My nephew deserves his child.
i think it is not about the parent at all. its all about the child. the social workers job is to make sure the children are safe and well cared for. i hope they make the parents jump through hoops for a very long time to make sure the kids are safe. the parents DO NOT loose children for no reason. there has to be a very big reason to lose your child and when the kids are given back i would hope the social workers check on the kids for years to make sure they are safe. sorry, but i think you have to look at the kids angle, those kids do not have a choice, the parents made some really awful reasons to lose their kids. YEA SOCIAL WORKERS. it is a very thankless job.
unknown

Somerset, KY

#4 Mar 5, 2009
I tell you what about the Social Workers they can go to he!! in my book they took my kids for no dam reason I dont to drugs or drink alchol and they took my kids and they will not even give them back to me but if they took a druggies kids they give them back to them. They dont say a word to them i dont like the Social workers and they know it I dont care who knows it. My kids had food and clean clothes and roof over their heads but one one put bruises all over my kid they took her to social services and told them that i done it and i didnt to it and that person knew she didnt have a bruise on her when she babysitted for me. I went through he!! and high water with them people i dont like them i told them that i didnt like them.
caution im hot

Henderson, KY

#5 Mar 5, 2009
its not about you wrote:
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i think it is not about the parent at all. its all about the child. the social workers job is to make sure the children are safe and well cared for. i hope they make the parents jump through hoops for a very long time to make sure the kids are safe. the parents DO NOT loose children for no reason. there has to be a very big reason to lose your child and when the kids are given back i would hope the social workers check on the kids for years to make sure they are safe. sorry, but i think you have to look at the kids angle, those kids do not have a choice, the parents made some really awful reasons to lose their kids. YEA SOCIAL WORKERS. it is a very thankless job.
so your saying every social worker is right, there have been cases where they were not right and stired trouble for parents and there kids. but it takes lots of money and time to prove there wrong there was a case back a while where a child wound up dead because of a social workers decision so there not the only one that are right. nobody is always right
its not about you

Greenbrier, AR

#6 Mar 5, 2009
caution im hot wrote:
<quoted text> so your saying every social worker is right, there have been cases where they were not right and stired trouble for parents and there kids. but it takes lots of money and time to prove there wrong there was a case back a while where a child wound up dead because of a social workers decision so there not the only one that are right. nobody is always right
no, i'm not saying they are all correct in their decisions. the goal is to keep the family together and they have been fooled and yes terrible tragedies occured, but i really think our social workers are doing the best they can in focusing on the child. it's all about the child and their safety. they learn from the awful tragedies and i agree that the parents who do get their child back should be watched carefully and for a long period of time. no, not all decision are the correct one. i am just saying the emphasis is on the child and what is best for them. its not about punishing the parents or any such craziness. the person who lost their children surely did something wrong! social services does not just step in and take children for NO reason. that's crazy. there are too many people watching for someone to have a "i'm going to get you" attitude. if you lost your kids, then there has to be an overwhelming reason.
its not about you

Greenbrier, AR

#7 Mar 5, 2009
PS i am not a social worker, do not know any social workers, have no relatives that are social workers, nor do i have any interest in social work. so don't even go there.
parent

London, KY

#8 Mar 5, 2009
I agree they don't just pick a name and go after them. There has to be probable cause for this action.If someone reports something it has to be investigated by law.That is their job and for every child saved makes it worth it.In most cases if it's not true than at least they done their job.And no I'm not a social worker.Keep up the good job, protect the child at all cost.
TheyDisgustMe

London, KY

#9 Mar 5, 2009
caution im hot wrote:
<quoted text> so your saying every social worker is right, there have been cases where they were not right and stired trouble for parents and there kids. but it takes lots of money and time to prove there wrong there was a case back a while where a child wound up dead because of a social workers decision so there not the only one that are right. nobody is always right
Yes, I remember that case. Dateline was even here to view the trial. The social workers admitted to fudging paperwork, acting like they were checking on him, instead they were going to lunch and such. The poor little boy had cigarrette burns on him in multiple places as well as broken bones, of course, later he died from the abuse of the father. The sickening social workers had their ribbons pinned on them for support of the social workers who had been assigned to the poor boy. I never seen so many fakey tears in all my life. No grieving for the abused baby, but lots of tears for the social workers that had ADMITTED to NOT doing their job. I HAVE HAD NO RESPECT FOR OUR LOCAL SOCIAL WORKERS EVER SINCE!!!
parent

London, KY

#10 Mar 5, 2009
you sound like a druggie that got it's child took for a good reason.
oh dear

Vilonia, AR

#11 Mar 5, 2009
All these people complaining about social workers arent whining when they get their welfare check every month. Thats why alot have kids anyway.
TheyDisgustMe

London, KY

#12 Mar 5, 2009
parent wrote:
you sound like a druggie that got it's child took for a good reason.
Actually I raise my kids well. I remember attending the trial,it was around 14 years ago, and the little hidden facts disgusted me. It was the first time in history that social workers were prosecuted with murder charges too. You sound like a guilty social worker. You must not be much of a parent to support workers instead of supporting a child who lost his life without cause. That baby had been abused for months, the social workers were supposed to be checking on the family and documenting the activities. They were not. In my eyes, those women were just as guilty as the dad. What about the little boy who drowned a while back at the lake. Yeah, social workers were supposed to be watching out for his best interest too. What came of that? Nothing. There would not be kids dying if people were taking their jobs and children's lives more seriously.
TheyDisgustMe

London, KY

#13 Mar 5, 2009
Also, I have three kids, have never received a dime of Wic, not one dollar in foodstamps, never had a medical card. Anything my family has ever gotten, we worked our butts off and paid for it the hard way. Every single dollar has been spent out of our pocket and not the governments. Can you say the same? It sickens me, that if you have an opinion other than some other moron's on this site, than automatically you must be a druggie or a welfare bum, you must be thinking of yourself. As far as the little boy and the trial, it is a fact this happened, and you can look it up and swallow the fact for yourself.
Give me a break---

Somerset, KY

#14 Mar 5, 2009
TheyDisgustMe wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, I remember that case. Dateline was even here to view the trial. The social workers admitted to fudging paperwork, acting like they were checking on him, instead they were going to lunch and such. The poor little boy had cigarrette burns on him in multiple places as well as broken bones, of course, later he died from the abuse of the father. The sickening social workers had their ribbons pinned on them for support of the social workers who had been assigned to the poor boy. I never seen so many fakey tears in all my life. No grieving for the abused baby, but lots of tears for the social workers that had ADMITTED to NOT doing their job. I HAVE HAD NO RESPECT FOR OUR LOCAL SOCIAL WORKERS EVER SINCE!!!
Lawd have mercy! That was nearly 20 years ago! All those people or social workers are long gone. They have ALL retired or died. Time to get over it! Move on. This is not an issue today. In those days the state would hire anyone with a degree whether it was in history or social work. You did not have to have a psych or social services degree. They are somewhat more stringent on their requirements now. 20 YEARS! Geesshhh!
Your sooo wrong

Somerset, KY

#15 Mar 5, 2009
TheyDisgustMe wrote:
<quoted text>Actually I raise my kids well. I remember attending the trial,it was around 14 years ago, and the little hidden facts disgusted me.......It was the first time in history that social workers were prosecuted with murder charges too. You sound like a guilty social worker. There would not be kids dying if people were taking their jobs and children's lives more seriously.
I think you anger is misplaced. Put the anger where it belongs... ON THOSE IDIOTS THAT ABUSE THEIR KIDS. Do you really think those social workers said "Oh well. Let's let the parents kill this child!" OMG, you are so ignorant. Put the blame where it belongs!!!
TheyDisgustMe

London, KY

#16 Mar 5, 2009
Give me a break--- wrote:
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Lawd have mercy! That was nearly 20 years ago! All those people or social workers are long gone. They have ALL retired or died. Time to get over it! Move on. This is not an issue today. In those days the state would hire anyone with a degree whether it was in history or social work. You did not have to have a psych or social services degree. They are somewhat more stringent on their requirements now. 20 YEARS! Geesshhh!
Not twenty years, 14! GEEESHHH!!!! It doesn't matter about the degrees, but it does matter about pretending to be visting with a child when your eating lunch instead. The little boy that "supposingly drowned" in the lake was just a couple of years ago, GEEEESH!!!! Now what is the excuse?
parent

London, KY

#17 Mar 5, 2009
The fact still remains that if someone had done their job this child would still be alive;;Everyone is not like these so called bad social workers here that make you sorry a;; parents walk the line.Hurray for the social workers in wayne county if you have been ordered by them to do certain things than that tells it all.there not going to be able to do this if something is not wrong in your house.dumba;;
info please

London, KY

#18 Mar 5, 2009
I tried to look up the case that you were talking about but couldn't find anything about it. Please some more information please.
fannie

Manchester, KY

#19 Mar 5, 2009
go to time magazines web site and search their archive articles for ky social workers. the name of article is "making the Tough calls" it happened in 1993.
TheyDisgustMe

London, KY

#20 Mar 5, 2009
Thank you so much Fannie, I lookef for it today, but had a hard time finding anything. People need to be aware that this type of neglect does happen, and I don't think it matters if it happended years ago, or not. Children's lives should be taken more seriously, and case workers should be held accountable too. That's my opinion. Here is a piece from the article, "Making the Tough Calls,".According to court documents, four caseworkers in Wayne County were confronted at least four separate times with evidence of physical abuse yet failed to remove Daniel permanently from the home. In one instance, when he was found to have a leg broken by twisting and marked with a handprint-shaped bruise, frustrated hospital staff testified that the Wayne County caseworkers only reluctantly ordered the boy placed in foster care. Yet within two months, Daniel was back with his violent stepfather. Around the time that new bruises darkened his face, a caseworker wrote in Daniel's file that "everything was fine." The month before the boy was fatally bashed in the head with a force that the medical examiner likened to being dropped from a three-story building, a caseworker acknowledged that the stepfather had failed to attend court-ordered parenting classes but that Daniel appeared "well and active."

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It took a jury only 90 minutes to exonerate the caseworkers.(The parents were convicted in a separate trial.) Outside the Monticello courthouse, a crowd of their colleagues burst into cheers. But the state Secretary of the Cabinet for Human Resources, Masten Childers II, was less partisan: within hours of the verdict, he launched his own inquiry into Kentucky's protective services. While the investigation found understaffing and other systemic inadequacies, its vice chairman, David Richart of the private-sector Kentucky Youth Advocates, acknowledged that the Wayne County workers "missed the obvious signs and pushed family reunification at all costs."

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