WVU Tech enrollment up 5.5 percent

WVU Tech enrollment up 5.5 percent

There are 146 comments on the Charleston Gazette story from Aug 26, 2011, titled WVU Tech enrollment up 5.5 percent. In it, Charleston Gazette reports that:

The Montgomery school said Friday that 1,160 students were enrolled for the start of the fall semester compared with 1,100 a year ago.

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Belle, WV

#1 Aug 27, 2011
According to enrollment statistics from West Virginia HEPC, Tech's enrollment in 2002 was 1455.

Therefore, if the enrollment figure in this article is accurate, Tech has experienced over a 20 percent DECREASE in enrollment during the last decade.

The assessment team that was recently on the campus informed the public that Tech would need to "double" its enrollment figures in order to have viable future.

As it stands today, Tech faces that enrollment challenge.

Charleston, WV

#2 Aug 27, 2011
This is just Scott Hurst and his creative math. Hoping that people are not falling for this.

Belle, WV

#3 Aug 27, 2011
evidently wvu sanctions the creative math.

Charleston, WV

#4 Aug 27, 2011
WVU may sanction it, but Hurst goes along with it. It's a poison cocktail no matter how you look at it.

The article also states their on campus housing is over 90% capacity. A quick check could put that statistic to rest. I seriously doubt that Hi-Rise is near capacity.

Words in a press release are easy to spout but they better have the proof to back it up.

Belle, WV

#5 Aug 27, 2011
The 90 per capacity is just another of their ways of distorting truth. The 90 percent capacity apparently applies to only two of their four residence halls.
In fact, Hi-Rise is 0 percent filled capacity Co-Ed is 0 percent capacity.
Those people on the Tech campus who are passing along mistruths need to learn that WE KNOW BETTER. So try again.
what the heck

Morgantown, WV

#6 Aug 27, 2011
FIRST OF ALL HIGH RISE IS GOING TO BE TOUR DOWN ALONG with coed, it must be nice to be able to set on your butt and do nothing but get on the computor , 2nd you do not know a damn thing that goes on at tech, so sut up and find something else to talk about a new dorm will be built

Belle, WV

#7 Aug 27, 2011
I am many others plan to continue telling, writing the truth about Tech in any and all venues provided. The truth needs to be told, to be heard, and to be understood.

Co-ed Hall to be demolished - Hi-Rise future undetermined.

Could write a book on the Tech subject - from the time that Tech consisted of 3800 students to the present, if lucky, 900 FTE - from the time that ALL dorms on the campus were 100 percent filled to capacity and students had to be temporarily housed in the old gym and the Fall View Armory - from the time that a much smaller in number staff - in comparison to today's staff- on that campus successfully accommodated at least three times the student enrollment of today - from the time that Tech experienced the construction of, on the average, one and one-half buildings per year on that campus for approximately 25 years to present when Tech can't even afford the upkeep on those buildings.

Plans for building a dorm on that campus is old news. WVU has been successful in the stoppage of the construction of dorms on that campus many times, in mutliple ways, under multiple circumstances. In one of several instances, a private company had agreed to finance, build, and manage a dorm on the campus - and WVU stopped that project in the Legislature.

It would be interesting to know how many colleges in West Virginia supply a recreational building for their students. No way would WVU deprive their students of recreational facilities. Tech students deserve the same consideration and accommodations.

Stay tuned! Many more areas need to discussed.

Charleston, WV

#8 Aug 28, 2011
Hey What the heck, funny you seem to do a lot of "sitting on your butt behind a computer too"!

Co-ed has been "on target" for demolition for years now. Tech doesn't have the money to fund the demolition. As for high rise, it should have been torn down years ago, but WVU will not financially support any updates to the Tech campus.

Sounds like it's you, What the heck, that doesn't know a damn thing about what goes on at Tech.

Perhaps at class at Tech would help your spelling and grammar too!

Belle, WV

#9 Aug 28, 2011
Sorry to inform you, Ridesabroom, but your little creation contains no less than 10 grammatical errors. And those grammar skills were taught in primary and secondary education.

The chances are good that Sobeit chose not to present correctness in grammar and/or spelling for a reason. What's your excuse?

For your information, the assessment team that was recently on the Tech campus (due to WVU's neglect of the campus) informed the public that the decision on the future of “high rise”
(Oops! Make that 12 grammatical errors for you) had not yet been determined and suggested that saving the building might be a favorable possibility.

As for WVU, the public is, certainly, not surprised in your declaration that "WVU will not financially support any updates to the Tech campus." What's new? WVU not only “will not financially support any updates”, they have a fifteen-year-long reputation for the stoppage of any type of investments for progress for, through, or by Tech.

Consequently, WVU has created and left a strong negative imprint on the Montgomery campus and the youth it serves.

The implied "pot of gold at the end of the rainbow" that was implied as an enticement to push WVU upon Tech in 1996 (as a regional campus) and 2006 (as a divisional campus) has well proven to be a "total" myth.

In the meantime, our youth stands on the other end of this spectrum. The Tech student deserves no less than than the WVU student.

Belle, WV

#10 Aug 28, 2011
I agree with Rideabroom. Rideabroom did an excellent job with the content and grammatical structure of her comment.

Right: WVU is of no help on the Montgomery campus.

Right: In fact, WVU is a deterrent to growth (and, most likely, the survival) of the Montgomery campus.

Right: Whattheheck doesn't KNOW a damn about what goes on at Tech.

Keep up the good work, Rideabroom.


Charleston, WV

#11 Aug 28, 2011
Well, while my grammar may not be perfect, at least the content of my response is understandable. Unlike What the heck, my words are spelled correctly. More importantly, the content of my message got the point across.

Sobeit, I was on your side!!!!!!!! But thank you for pointing out my errors.

Thank you yeh! I do my best and always speak on behalf of Tech. Good, bad or ugly.

Bottom line, lets all wait to see what the factual enrollment numbers truly are. I'm sure the 5.5 increase is very inflated.

Belle, WV

#12 Aug 28, 2011
Sorry, ridesabroom, I, somehow, misread your comment. I, too, could not agree with you more.

And, yes, your content was excellent and, in that regard, content is much more important than dotting every "I" and crossing every "T."

This Tech issue has everyone so concerned that sometimes the vives just accidentally flow in the wrong direction.

One thing for sure: Scott Hurst and WVU have harmed that college and the students it serves. Tech is only a skeleton of what it used to be, but the hope remains that Tech will someday share a bright future led by capable and honest leadership.

Hopefully, somewhere along the way our paths will meet and Tech will enjoy the rewards of both groups.

Keep the hope!!

Mike Smith

Charleston, WV

#13 Aug 28, 2011
I can't comment on what goes on at Tech. However, I will state the campus is not appealing when you first approach it. The buildings look drab, there is problems with the HVAC system, and the tech lacks credible professors who have authored main stream books or articles. Again i am looking from the outside in here, and just posting what I see.

Community involvement is non existent, first impressions are of a tiny school, with a broad layout of the campus. Classes being offered have no support for further investment of schooling, and no program has been set up for post grads to receive refresher courses. Classes are also structured in such a way as to promote students to attend Tech for half of their college credits, leaving tech looking as a college introductory school for WVU.
Again outside views!

Those are just a few beliefs I have taken away from tech.

So the new question becomes, what would it take to make Tech viable in the long run?

Belle, WV

#14 Aug 29, 2011
One thing for sure, Tech is not surviving under its present system and leadership. The intention of SB486 is for the assessment team to study the campus and recommend some type of direction for revitalization of the campus.

The assessment team's report should be available soon for perusal. Should be interesting!
Mike Smith

Charleston, WV

#15 Aug 29, 2011
sobeit, if you hear before I do when the report comes out to the public would you mind throwing up a post. I'd like to see what they have to say.

Belle, WV

#16 Aug 29, 2011
Will do my best"est".

Belle, WV

#17 Aug 29, 2011
According to enrollment information on Tech's website, Tech's 1160 enrollment for this semester is NOT a 5.5 percent increase. It calculates to a 4.1 decrease.

Simple math.

Please refer to Tech's website, wvutech.edu , 2010-11 Report to the Community, page 3. Tech gives its last enrollment as 1209, not the 1100 as reported in this media release.

Therefore, 1209 (last enrollment figure) minus 1160 (present enrollment figure) equals 49, 49 less students, a 4.1 enrollment decrease.

The 5.5 percent enrollment increase reporting is just another negative for the campus.

The public is not fooled or mislead by these reported inaccurate (bogus) enrollment figures. We have become accustomed to them--particularly through the years of 2009, 2010, and 2011, the Hurst Years.

The public has learned to wait for the "official" enrollment statistics from WVHEPC.


Charleston, WV

#18 Aug 30, 2011
TRUTH! I think you should be running that school.

Sad that most of the general public will fall for Scott's crap and never know the real truth.

So for at least the last 10 years or more, Tech has seen declining enrollment and the future of the school is dependent on increasing enrollment.

The handwriting is on the wall.

Belle, WV

#19 Sep 1, 2011
Marketing on the Tech campus, another one of Tech's recent additions to the administrative networking, needs to increase its productivity. According to the Tech website, Marketing averaged only two media releases a month during the 2010-11 academic year--one every two weeks.

What a perfect opportunity for Tech LOST!

However, according to Tech's last media release concerning the "claimed" enrollment increase, the following sentence concluded that release.

"Additional data will be available later this fall when official enrollment is submitted to the Higher Education Policy Commission."

Please note the word "official" in this sentence. That word in itself could well imply that the proclaimed 5.5 percent (not %) increase could be "unofficial."


Charleston, WV

#20 Sep 1, 2011
Marketing is a much broader area than just press releases. You are right. Tech has lost the marketing battle for many years. To hear that they recently added a marketing team is shocking. It sounds like they need to add marketing to their recently published strategic plan.

Marketing a school like Tech is not rocket science. They need to aggressively "sell" the school, using all marketing tools available to them. Starting with social media, print advertising, out of home, events and sponsorships, etc. Those are the basics. Then move on to the more strategic marketing aspects, including targeted marketing.

Didn't they hire a marketing firm to do this for them? What happened to that? Do they have full time dedicated marketing employees?

No wonder they are NOT hitting their enrollment goals. And putting out false numbers only adds to the problem.

They need serious help.

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