Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#18957 Jun 6, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps if people had listened to us in 1972, we would have many more jobs in this country because that's about the time we were warning of how strong the unions were becoming, and how they would eventually chase jobs out of the country.
Result of FDR's Modern Pseudo Liberalism.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#18958 Jun 6, 2013
LorenEberly wrote:
US Households Gain No Wealth From Recession:
OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) gain wealth derived from marketing more stock dividends (money) quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.
Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.
US Households Gain No Wealth from President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials defying USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.
Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.
This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
And holding Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grand
To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.
Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.
Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.
This created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.
America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
My household has gained a hell of a lot of wealth thanks to Caesar Obamus unintentionally. Its because the devaluation of the dollar make it easier for China to pay many more dollars for what I export to them.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#18959 Jun 6, 2013
Loren is losing ability to debate effectively. Please stop Loren.
LorenEberly

Mount Gilead, OH

#18960 Jun 6, 2013
Foreign and Domestic Investors:

Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

Cannot fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid. For product and service Foreign and Domestic Investors use slaves and nonunion workers to produce in tax abated enterprise zones in USA, Mexico, China, India, and etc. for fewer wages than they can afford life.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
Matter

Ashland, KY

#18961 Jun 6, 2013
Does it?

Since: Aug 12

United States

#18962 Jun 7, 2013
LorenEberly wrote:
Foreign and Domestic Investors:
Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchyhildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.
Cannot fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tyax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid. For product and service Foreign and Domestic Investors use slaves and nonunion workers to produce in tax abated enterprise zones in USA, Mexico, China, India, and etc. for fewer wages than they can afford life.
Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.
Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.
Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.
Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.
With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
Set Corporate tax rate at zero percent and offer tax amnesty to the 18 trillion offshore. Supply of labor will dry up and wages will skyrocket!
GreedDestroyedAm erica

Canton, OH

#18964 Jun 7, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps if people had listened to us in 1972, we would have many more jobs in this country because that's about the time we were warning of how strong the unions were becoming, and how they would eventually chase jobs out of the country.
Yah, back the 70's, when American industry was thriving and most with unions. Hmmmm. Let's see. What is it that changed? Oh...that's right. "Patriots" like yourself, were told by boss man that worker's rights are a bad thing and you bought into it. CEO's pay increased 800% while they were selling America out to cheap overseas labor and giving themselves stimulus bonuses, the whole time and to this day, you mindlessly follow what propaganda billionaires have told you (see second hand smoke is not harmful, energy emissions have no effect on our environment, breaking up unions like they do in China is good for the working man...)

Just because you were dumb enough to buy into things like trickledown or "God told me to invade Iraq", doesn't mean the thinking folks in this nation should have to pay for your very bad, as in "Mission Accomplished" bad decisions.
GreedDestroyedAm erica

Canton, OH

#18965 Jun 7, 2013
I forget. What's America's threat level color today? Don't see a whole lot of that on "Fair and Balanced" Fox News these days. Strange how when things were so much "better" under GW, we were being told to be awfully afraid by the right. Must have been all of those WMDs that Saddam had. Ain't that right Halliburton?(wink).

Since: Aug 12

Acworth, GA

#18966 Jun 7, 2013
GreedDestroyedAmerica wrote:
I forget. What's America's threat level color today? Don't see a whole lot of that on "Fair and Balanced" Fox News these days. Strange how when things were so much "better" under GW, we were being told to be awfully afraid by the right. Must have been all of those WMDs that Saddam had. Ain't that right Halliburton?(wink).
Nowadays we get told how much cheaper health insurance is under Obamacare. Whats the big deal?? its just a lie.

Since: Aug 12

Acworth, GA

#18967 Jun 7, 2013
GreedDestroyedAmerica wrote:
<quoted text>
Yah, back the 70's, when American industry was thriving and most with unions. Hmmmm. Let's see. What is it that changed? Oh...that's right. "Patriots" like yourself, were told by boss man that worker's rights are a bad thing and you bought into it. CEO's pay increased 800% while they were selling America out to cheap overseas labor and giving themselves stimulus bonuses, the whole time and to this day, you mindlessly follow what propaganda billionaires have told you (see second hand smoke is not harmful, energy emissions have no effect on our environment, breaking up unions like they do in China is good for the working man...)
Just because you were dumb enough to buy into things like trickledown or "God told me to invade Iraq", doesn't mean the thinking folks in this nation should have to pay for your very bad, as in "Mission Accomplished" bad decisions.
Why don't you go buy a factory if its so damn good there in Ohio?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#18968 Jun 7, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you go buy a factory if its so damn good there in Ohio?
Just think Ohio is one of the 11 states that there is more takers(people on entitlement programs or welfare) than givers(working taxpayers).

Since: Aug 12

United States

#18969 Jun 7, 2013
I didn't know that.... that's good to know!
.
Moocher class majority.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#18970 Jun 7, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
I didn't know that.... that's good to know!
.
Moocher class majority.
The Number Of People On Welfare Exceeds The Number Of People With Jobs In 11 States

This list of states includes some of the biggest states in the country: California, New York, Illinois, Ohio, Maine, Kentucky, South Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama, New Mexico and Hawaii. It is interesting to note that seven of those states were won by Barack Obama on election night.

http://michaelsnyder.mensnewsdaily.com/2012/1...

Do You Live In A Death Spiral State?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/baldwin/2012/11/2...

“ I LOVE LIBERALS”

Since: Sep 11

Bellefontaine, OH

#18971 Jun 7, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text>
Set Corporate tax rate at zero percent and offer tax amnesty to the 18 trillion offshore. Supply of labor will dry up and wages will skyrocket!
Amen & amen!!
NOD M NORTH

Delaware, OH

#18972 Jun 7, 2013
DON W SOUTH wrote:
<quoted text>
Amen & amen!!
What a ridiculous thing to do. Thankfully the disgraced mayor is retired.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#18973 Jun 7, 2013
GreedDestroyedAmerica wrote:
<quoted text>
Yah, back the 70's, when American industry was thriving and most with unions. Hmmmm. Let's see. What is it that changed? Oh...that's right. "Patriots" like yourself, were told by boss man that worker's rights are a bad thing and you bought into it. CEO's pay increased 800% while they were selling America out to cheap overseas labor and giving themselves stimulus bonuses, the whole time and to this day, you mindlessly follow what propaganda billionaires have told you (see second hand smoke is not harmful, energy emissions have no effect on our environment, breaking up unions like they do in China is good for the working man...)
Just because you were dumb enough to buy into things like trickledown or "God told me to invade Iraq", doesn't mean the thinking folks in this nation should have to pay for your very bad, as in "Mission Accomplished" bad decisions.
Yes, we get so much better advice today such as putting more air in your tires will save us more oil than we can drill. Or the surprise that we have 57 states in this country. Or that we need to pass a bill to find out what's in it.

Now you ask "what has changed?" and I already told you: consumer demands.

The American consumer refused to support the unions. They wanted and still want cheap Chinese non-union products. How do you blame a CEO for providing customers with what they want? How is it his or hers fault? Did you know that GM has parking privileges for their workers who own American cars? That's because many of these union workers were going in to work in Japanese cars and trucks. If the chef won't even eat at the restaurant he works at..........

Being an environmentalist and all, I think you would be thrilled at the lack of production in our country today. Regulations closed those dirty factories so they moved out of the country, and now our cars are all plastic so we have very few dirty steel mills in our country today.

As Professor Walter Williams pointed out in one of his columns (which I believe I posted here) the lack of manufacturing has to do more with automation and less outsourcing. I'd post the site again, but it''s the first week of June and I'm freezing in here. I may have to turn on the furnace again it's so cold.

xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#18974 Jun 7, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>The Number Of People On Welfare Exceeds The Number Of People With Jobs In 11 States
This list of states includes some of the biggest states in the country: California, New York, Illinois, Ohio, Maine, Kentucky, South Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama, New Mexico and Hawaii. It is interesting to note that seven of those states were won by Barack Obama on election night.
http://michaelsnyder.mensnewsdaily.com/2012/1...
Do You Live In A Death Spiral State?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/baldwin/2012/11/2...
Good articles Indy.
Pops

Newport, KY

#18975 Jun 7, 2013
GreedDestroyedAmerica wrote:
I forget. What's America's threat level color today? Don't see a whole lot of that on "Fair and Balanced" Fox News these days. Strange how when things were so much "better" under GW, we were being told to be awfully afraid by the right. Must have been all of those WMDs that Saddam had. Ain't that right Halliburton?(wink).
Threat color!? That was adusted & then dropped years ago but you're so slow that you probably thought it somehow applicable to this conversation.
Fox News IS more fair & balanced than MSNBC, ABC & most others. They even INVITE progressives/liberals to come onto their news & talk shows while the others not only DO NOT invite other opinions. Fox even hired Juan Williams after CNN canned him for simply saying people in Muslim garb on an air plane make him nervous. Then many liberals publically & relentlessly call others 'the Tea Party the enemy', a certain commentator a 'right wing slut', tell republicans that they 'can come along but have to sit in the back'...of the bus, & more, defend that for the rest of us.
Pops

Newport, KY

#18976 Jun 7, 2013
GreedDestroyedAmerica wrote:
<quoted text>
Yah, back the 70's, when American industry was thriving and most with unions. Hmmmm. Let's see. What is it that changed? Oh...that's right. "Patriots" like yourself, were told by boss man that worker's rights are a bad thing and you bought into it...breaking up unions like they do in China is good for the working man...)
.
Like Unions are not greedy? Why do you think that so much money & so many businesses went offshore?
So that their companies can keep making some money & keep our Roths, 401K's & more moving along. Or would like your retirement funds in a bankrupt U.S. company. Just wondering.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#18977 Jun 7, 2013
NOD M NORTH wrote:
<quoted text>
What a ridiculous thing to do. Thankfully the disgraced mayor is retired.
Are you economist? Its not ridiculous. In the entire tax revenue pie chart of what the US takes in, corp taxes only amount to 12%

Why have the highest corp tax rate in the world? You're only hurting people who want jobs.

Setting the corp tax at zero would quickly be offset by personal income tax even at the same rate. Setting the corp tax at zero would attract corporate headquarters from around the world at a pace growing the economy at a meltdown pace. Even Chinese outfits would leave to move here despite the hindering labor cost and EPA red tape.

Anyone that understands supply and demand understands the unemployment would drop to near zero and everyone knows that's what's happening in north dakota currently. You know.....where starting pay at wal mart is $17...
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Democrats won't let it happen because they know they'd lose control of their plantation. Itd be difficult enough getting it done with republicans.

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