Oswego won't ban assault weapons

Oswego won't ban assault weapons

There are 14 comments on the The Beacon-News story from Jun 19, 2013, titled Oswego won't ban assault weapons. In it, The Beacon-News reports that:

"The only reason we have this on the agenda is that the governor has yet to pass law," Ottosen said.

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Jay

United States

#1 Jun 19, 2013
Good. Because we may need them to rise up against the ever-oppressive government, as stated in the BoR.
Old Vet

Lisle, IL

#2 Jun 25, 2013
What exactly would you do with your so-called assault rifle? When would you decide to use it (what would be your "last straw")? Are you trained, supplied and organized well enough with sufficient numbers to oppose a military, or a police force, or your neighbors who may disagree with you?
The Bill of Rights refers to the first 10 amendments to the constitution, and describes far more empowerment directed to the government process than to those who oppose it, or have a problem with it.
Perhaps you could explain how a weapon can solve a problem? Have you ever solved a problem with a weapon?

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#3 Jun 26, 2013
Old Vet wrote:
What exactly would you do with your so-called assault rifle? When would you decide to use it (what would be your "last straw")? Are you trained, supplied and organized well enough with sufficient numbers to oppose a military, or a police force, or your neighbors who may disagree with you?
The Bill of Rights refers to the first 10 amendments to the constitution, and describes far more empowerment directed to the government process than to those who oppose it, or have a problem with it.
Perhaps you could explain how a weapon can solve a problem? Have you ever solved a problem with a weapon?
How was the Revolution won? I bet a lot of Germans wish they had weapons in the 40's.
Old Vet

Lisle, IL

#4 Jun 28, 2013
I would bet that hundreds of millions of Jews, Poles, Russians, French, Czechs, Dutch, Norwegians, British, Rom, Flemish, LGBT, and Americans wished a lot Germans had fewer weapons in the 40's.

It is really time to stop this goofy tactic of pulling out the 1776 argument concerning guns. The social, political and technological climate of the 18th century is long gone (over 200 years ago, if you are cypherin' it out). Do you think women should not vote, or slavery should be allowed? Do you know what "militia" meant back then?
USMCVet

Crest Hill, IL

#5 Jun 29, 2013
I'm trained. I know what I am doing. My question is: What is an assault rifle? Answer: There is no such thing. It is a cosmetic definition created by soccer moms who are board with nothing better to do so they can feel "safer" at night. But the reality of it is, guns DO keep us safe. Criminals do not care about laws, that's why they are criminals. Teach, educate and arm all of your citizens and crime will go down. It is proven fact. As for assault weapons, they do not exist. So good luck outlawing them.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#6 Jun 30, 2013
Old Vet wrote:
I would bet that hundreds of millions of Jews, Poles, Russians, French, Czechs, Dutch, Norwegians, British, Rom, Flemish, LGBT, and Americans wished a lot Germans had fewer weapons in the 40's.
It is really time to stop this goofy tactic of pulling out the 1776 argument concerning guns. The social, political and technological climate of the 18th century is long gone (over 200 years ago, if you are cypherin' it out). Do you think women should not vote, or slavery should be allowed? Do you know what "militia" meant back then?
No shit Sherlock! However, the only Germans that had weapons were the military, thanks to the confiscation by their "well trusted" government.
I guess you will declare it a victory when the only people carrying firearms are the criminals, right? Oh yea, the police will be their the moment you need them right? Brilliant!
Old Vet

Lisle, IL

#7 Jul 3, 2013
So, what do you (USMCVet) have against soccer moms?! Guns don't create safety anymore than guns kill people. I am an NRA member, 24 year veteran, and asked WHAT you are going to do with a gun. I did not say anything about restricting or banning guns. Simplistic ideas such as giving everyone a weapon does not address the problem--violence. If you are trained, then you should be aware that weapons are only one part of an effective response. As a first sergeant for several years I came to appreciate that giving people several months of weapons training without ensuring proper discipline and leadership was a setup for disaster. How do we know that someone (you, for instance) who does not have the basic discipline to refrain from personal attacks on soccer moms is going to do the right things at the right time with deadly force?
Team Zimmerman

United States

#8 Jul 11, 2013
It's a good thing George Zimmerman had his gun. Thanks to his heroic act of dutifully exterminating Trayvon Martin, there is one less drug-abusing criminal thug running free in America.

GO TEAM ZIMMERMAN!!!
Old Vet

Lisle, IL

#9 Jul 11, 2013
Team Zimmerman, what exactly did the juvenile citizen Martin do to deserve death? Would you feel heroic killing an unarmed 17 year old in a situation you initiated? Remember, Zimmerman admitted Martin was not observed doing anything wrong, but said he (Zimmerman) was suspicious based on his appearance. Furthermore, what authority bestowed the duties of exterminator of human beings upon Zimmerman? One last question: do you think Zimmerman would have confronted Martin if he had not been carrying a gun?
NIU

Chicago, IL

#10 Jul 21, 2013
Trayvon "Wannabe Gansta Thug" Martin saw the justice he deserved as soon as Zimmerman pumped that hollow point bullet through his heart. That nigthug turd won't be attacking anybody ever again. Live like a thug, die like a thug.
zimmerman for prez

United States

#11 Jul 21, 2013
Old Vet wrote:
Team Zimmerman, what exactly did the juvenile citizen Martin do to deserve death? Would you feel heroic killing an unarmed 17 year old in a situation you initiated? Remember, Zimmerman admitted Martin was not observed doing anything wrong, but said he (Zimmerman) was suspicious based on his appearance. Furthermore, what authority bestowed the duties of exterminator of human beings upon Zimmerman? One last question: do you think Zimmerman would have confronted Martin if he had not been carrying a gun?
u didnt follow the trial did you? zimmerman didnt confront the punk thug. he followed him for a few moments, when he lost sight of him trayvon chose instead of just going home 300 feet away to loop back, confront and attack zimmerman. go punch a cop in the nose and smack his head against a concrete sidewalk a few times and see if he doesn't shoot you... unarmed or not. blacks are just pissed off that the law allowed somebody to fight back. as usual theyre crying that its someone elses fault.
giveMEmoney

United States

#12 Aug 31, 2014
Why are sissy d-bags like you trying to make it so I can't walk around at 3:00am with my AK? Let us take a step back and talk about felons and their inability to own a gun LEGALLY. So there smart guy, riddle me this: Wouldn't you think the police would want to know who has guns? You will never take guns from people, even if they can't legally own them. The day I trust the cops to protect me is the day I find out there is really an invisible man in the sky making my life hell so up yours buddy. Go get the sand out of your vagina and try not to spill your wine cooler on my red, white, and blue flag.
giveMEmoney

United States

#13 Aug 31, 2014
Old Vet wrote:
Are you trained, supplied and organized well enough with sufficient numbers to oppose a military, or a police force, or your neighbors who may disagree with you?
You sound like you smoke cock. If the police are trained so well, then why do they need 50 guys in a raid for 4 people?........and what war did you serve in? Vet doesn't mean shit anymore unless you actually did something,......and most people LIE about it regardless. The constitution says we can have guns, so be it. If people are worried about getting shot, learn to have respect for one another lime the old west.
giveMEmoney

United States

#14 Aug 31, 2014
PS - in that first line, I'm utilizing my freedom of speech to warn others that you're a homo.

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