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Please Help - Illegal Aliens at Wayne Poultry in Albertville, AL

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Bill

Atlanta, GA

#1 Jan 13, 2008
Why is Wayne Farms hiring known illegal immigrants at its plant in Albertville, AL? Look in Kilpatrick, AL for several hundred.

These illegals brag about not paying income tax but they get refunds from IRS!

The good people from Albertville and the rest of AL continue to suffer because of this.
Daniel

Huntsville, AL

#2 Mar 24, 2008
Ok, lets get some things straight. Yes, illegals shouldn't be working under false Solcial Security numbers, however they DO pay taxes. They get taxes taken straight out of their paychecks just like you and I do. And most of them do not file for refunds because this just makes them more likely to get caught by the IRS. As to why the chicken plants are hiring illegals. Lets see, because Americans are getting lazy and can't endure the conditions of the chicken plants and illlegals will work really hard for $8-$9/hr. If the chicken plants couldn't hire illegals they would shut down and ultimatly have to move their chicken plants south of the border.

And as for the people of Albertville suffering because of this? How do you know, it shows that you are from VA? If the illegals left, then the chicken plants would leave and that would turn Albertville into a ghost town. The illegals are keeping the economy going. Because they work in the chicken plants, the Americans that work there have a job, they do shopping just like we do and thus support the grocery stores, clothings stores, auto dealers, mechanics, landlords, etc. etc.

People need to think about what would happen to the economy if all the "illegals" got sent back to their respective countries. The problem isn't that they don't want to be legal the problem is that they can't. Our system is so messed up that the process to enter the country illegaly is way too slow. I know of people that have done everything legally however wait 10 years or more for their papers to come through. That's outrageous! The illegals pay thousands of dollars to get smuggled in, they would be more than happy to put that money towards entering the country legaly. The only problem is that most of these people are dirt poor, so they borrow the money, and then pay it off as soon as they start working.

America has always welcomed immigrants, and that is one of the reasons we are what we are today. If you're not 100% native American Indian, your an imigrant. Let's not get greedy now that we are Americans and turn our backs on our suffering neighbors.
ImLovinIt

Ladson, SC

#3 Mar 28, 2008
Daniel wrote:
Ok, lets get some things straight. Yes, illegals shouldn't be working under false Solcial Security numbers, however they DO pay taxes. They get taxes taken straight out of their paychecks just like you and I do. And most of them do not file for refunds because this just makes them more likely to get caught by the IRS. As to why the chicken plants are hiring illegals. Lets see, because Americans are getting lazy and can't endure the conditions of the chicken plants and illlegals will work really hard for $8-$9/hr. If the chicken plants couldn't hire illegals they would shut down and ultimatly have to move their chicken plants south of the border.
And as for the people of Albertville suffering because of this? How do you know, it shows that you are from VA? If the illegals left, then the chicken plants would leave and that would turn Albertville into a ghost town. The illegals are keeping the economy going. Because they work in the chicken plants, the Americans that work there have a job, they do shopping just like we do and thus support the grocery stores, clothings stores, auto dealers, mechanics, landlords, etc. etc.
People need to think about what would happen to the economy if all the "illegals" got sent back to their respective countries. The problem isn't that they don't want to be legal the problem is that they can't. Our system is so messed up that the process to enter the country illegaly is way too slow. I know of people that have done everything legally however wait 10 years or more for their papers to come through. That's outrageous! The illegals pay thousands of dollars to get smuggled in, they would be more than happy to put that money towards entering the country legaly. The only problem is that most of these people are dirt poor, so they borrow the money, and then pay it off as soon as they start working.
America has always welcomed immigrants, and that is one of the reasons we are what we are today. If you're not 100% native American Indian, your an imigrant. Let's not get greedy now that we are Americans and turn our backs on our suffering neighbors.


Im so damned tired of ppl supposing that there arent enough Americans who can and/or will fill these jobs. That is just a lie. I know plenty of people who are literally begging for work, any kind of work. The TRUTH, Daniel, is that these companies want to keep their profits skyrocketing while they pay shit-wages to people who dont have the legal groundwork under them to demand any better. I have no problem with immigration, none at all. Bring em all on for all I care. However, we have LAWS. And no matter what country your from, or how long ago you broke a law, or for whatever reason you did it, you still did it. I cant afford to pay speeding tickets, they SUCK! My budget is so thin at times that a speeding ticket could very well mean my family doesnt eat that week. And thats sad, but true. So what do I do? <gasp, shiver> I DONT FUCKING SPEED!And the fact that I have strong Native American roots, and that my relatives were tortured, raped, and slaughtered in their own land gives me no better right to get away with it than anyone else. So why should it be any different for people who break the law to violate our borders?'Nuff said.
Charles Farley

Peachtree City, GA

#4 Apr 9, 2008
Americans don't turn their back at all. America invests more in foreign aid than most of the other nations combined. Americans have always been generous in this way. But sneaking across the border to take advantage of our generous country is both illegal and unethical.

If your town can't survive without large numbers of border jumping criminals, then you have a management problem and allowing them to stay is only a quick fix with no long term goals.

CF

Also, my family came here in 1910. 3 Generations have served America in the military. I'm not an immigrant, my family earned the right to be called Ammericans. The idea that Americans should pack their bags and move back to where? Europe? It's as foolish a pipe dream as hoping all the black people will move to Africa. Get over it, nobody is leaving America. People are lining up to get IN to America, so it must not suck SO bad.
Amber Mathis

Spiro, OK

#5 May 6, 2008
This is so like totally gay, dude.(=
Bill

Brevard, NC

#6 Jun 10, 2008
Daniel wrote:
Ok, lets get some things straight......
And as for the people of Albertville suffering because of this? How do you know, it shows that you are from VA?
Just because Topix showed a VA address does not mean I am not from AL. I am 100% AL native and visit there often.

I know the sheriff says he will clamp down on illegal activities in Kilpatrick. I hope so. Daniel, have you been robbed or assaulted by an illegal. Have you had to cut back your business because you had to provide expensive medical care to these illegal scum but were never paid. They clog the emergency rooms. Thousands of dollars is used each year to educate the children of these illegals.

One of the chicken processors only likes to hire illegals so they will not complain. I wonder if their tax records are correct.
Josh

Fort Payne, AL

#8 Sep 16, 2008
I agree I went to Wayne farms in Albertville Al for an interview. The production staff there is 100% hispanic, They had a 17 year old boy get killed while at work. He had been working there since he was 15!!! Wayne farms has been there for over 40 years and the hispanics have only been there 10. So to say they COULDN'T run without them is an ignorant statement.
employee

Humble, TX

#9 Nov 16, 2008
Bill wrote:
Why is Wayne Farms hiring known illegal immigrants at its plant in Albertville, AL? Look in Kilpatrick, AL for several hundred.
These illegals brag about not paying income tax but they get refunds from IRS!
The good people from Albertville and the rest of AL continue to suffer because of this.
I work at poultry plant in arkansas and the human resource manager hires illigeal immigrants and if they get fired in one name they can come back in another name. The human resource manager even told supervisors to tell employees that if immigration came they would be warned and allowed time to leave. We can not get insurance due to high number of illigeals. I saw a young man who was 20 at the most but his id said 45 and hrm said if number ran good then it was fine. I know two girls who used same name. Several reports have been made to immigration but i am begining to think they pay them off. i have been with company for 4 years and it is getting worse.
Ryan owens

Albertville, AL

#10 Nov 23, 2008
look i live in albertville u dumb shit i would gladely work in a chicken plant for 8 or 9 dollars an hour there isnt anything wrong with it the reason americans wont work there is becouse there is so many god damn illegal imagrents that work there who refuse to learn english so y should an enliglish speaking american go work in a chicken plant full f illegal spanish speaken fucker the americans wouldnt be able to understand shit so daniel shut the fuck up the unemployment rate down here is crazy there r so many people with out jobs it isnt even funny an from those mexicans getten deported i believe theer r americans who r goin to work at the chicken plant now becouse all the jobs arent taken up by illegal imagrents now i hope they catch every last one them that way all the legall americans who r currently unemployed can have a job again
Ryan owens

Albertville, AL

#11 Nov 23, 2008
and i juss noticed it said im from athens but im from albertville i asure u www.myspace.com/ryan_0 go look if u dont believe me im not a member of this website so i have no clue how to change were im from an nor do i care i came across this while searching fo chicken plants around here that are hiring
caasduit

United States

#12 Nov 23, 2008
Yes illegal aliens pay and receive tax returns.

The Internal Revenue Service gives illegal immigrants Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers — called an ITIN — when they don’t have a Social Security number but still are required by law to file a tax return. It’s how illegal immigrants, and legal immigrants who aren’t eligible for Social Security numbers, pay taxes. It’s also how they get tax refunds from the government — even if they aren’t here legally, which sometimes adds up to thousands of dollars for each of them.

In this case, illegal immigrants who bought stolen Social Security numbers took tax forms they received from their employers — with the stolen name and Social Security Number — to Amalia Cerrillo, who prepared their tax forms for them. Cerrillo — who has not been charged with a crime, and according to an affidavit was cleared of wrongdoing by the Colorado Department of Revenue — would request an ITIN from the government using the illegal immigrant’s real name. She’d then cross out the stolen name and Social Security number and put the person’s real name on the form. By law, a person cannot have both a Social Security number and an ITIN.

Bruce Lichtenberger, a certified public accountant in Greeley, said that if someone asked him to prepare taxes with a stolen Social Security number and name that he wouldn’t do it.

“Generally, we wouldn’t touch it,” said Lichtenberger, adding that he’s never been asked to file a tax return for an illegal immigrant.“They almost wouldn’t get in the front door.”

Lichtenberger said he’s filed tax returns for people with green cards and resident aliens, but that people bringing Social Security numbers in that aren’t theirs would “raise a red flag” to him.

But sometimes, a red flag isn’t enough to stop a tax return already being processed by the government.

IRS restricted from sharing information

In cases like the one this week in Weld, even if IRS agents sense something is amiss, they don’t report people they believe are in the country illegally because by law, they can’t. In fact, even when a person claims to have both a Social Security number and an ITIN on a tax return, the IRS still issues a refund.

The IRS says that under current law — a law adopted in 1976 — it can’t share information on illegal immigrants with the Department of Homeland Security or Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Congress changed the law in the mid-1970s to make returns confidential after President Nixon tried to use the tax information of his rivals to harm their careers.
caasduit

United States

#13 Nov 23, 2008
Daniel do you care about Americans or illegal aliens??? There is a distinct difference between legal immigrants and illegal ones.
Dinah

Dover, DE

#14 Dec 6, 2008
Bill wrote:
Why is Wayne Farms hiring known illegal immigrants at its plant in Albertville, AL? Look in Kilpatrick, AL for several hundred.
These illegals brag about not paying income tax but they get refunds from IRS!
The good people from Albertville and the rest of AL continue to suffer because of this.
Call I.C.E.(not that it will do you much good in the coming months since you all elected Obama--who has NO intention of enforcing illegal immigration laws)
Dinah

Dover, DE

#15 Dec 6, 2008
Daniel wrote:
Ok, lets get some things straight. Yes, illegals shouldn't be working under false Solcial Security numbers, however they DO pay taxes. They get taxes taken straight out of their paychecks just like you and I do. And most of them do not file for refunds because this just makes them more likely to get caught by the IRS. As to why the chicken plants are hiring illegals. Lets see, because Americans are getting lazy and can't endure the conditions of the chicken plants and illlegals will work really hard for $8-$9/hr. If the chicken plants couldn't hire illegals they would shut down and ultimatly have to move their chicken plants south of the border.
And as for the people of Albertville suffering because of this? How do you know, it shows that you are from VA? If the illegals left, then the chicken plants would leave and that would turn Albertville into a ghost town. The illegals are keeping the economy going. Because they work in the chicken plants, the Americans that work there have a job, they do shopping just like we do and thus support the grocery stores, clothings stores, auto dealers, mechanics, landlords, etc. etc.
People need to think about what would happen to the economy if all the "illegals" got sent back to their respective countries. The problem isn't that they don't want to be legal the problem is that they can't. Our system is so messed up that the process to enter the country illegaly is way too slow. I know of people that have done everything legally however wait 10 years or more for their papers to come through. That's outrageous! The illegals pay thousands of dollars to get smuggled in, they would be more than happy to put that money towards entering the country legaly. The only problem is that most of these people are dirt poor, so they borrow the money, and then pay it off as soon as they start working.
America has always welcomed immigrants, and that is one of the reasons we are what we are today. If you're not 100% native American Indian, your an imigrant. Let's not get greedy now that we are Americans and turn our backs on our suffering neighbors.
I get SOOOO tired of hearing this LAME arguement.
You people STILL don't get it no matter HOW many times we have to explain it to you! You have a lot of dang gall to say that Americans are too dang lazy too work. I think you ARE an illegal; otherwise you are grossly ignorant.

You don't save the world in the Titanic. BTW Viginia seems to be one of the few states LEFT displaying some sort of sense.
Dinah

Dover, DE

#16 Dec 6, 2008
Bill wrote:
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Just because Topix showed a VA address does not mean I am not from AL. I am 100% AL native and visit there often.
I know the sheriff says he will clamp down on illegal activities in Kilpatrick. I hope so. Daniel, have you been robbed or assaulted by an illegal. Have you had to cut back your business because you had to provide expensive medical care to these illegal scum but were never paid. They clog the emergency rooms. Thousands of dollars is used each year to educate the children of these illegals.
One of the chicken processors only likes to hire illegals so they will not complain. I wonder if their tax records are correct.
I agree with you. Our family and friends have had no less than 3 encounters with illegal alien problems. One was my kin was out of a job, out of cash and came home to look for work driving a gift car. Some stupid woman with crying kids in the car ran my kin off the road by pulling in front of the car at 45 MPH (the speed limit in our area)and made it so the only car she HAD to find work was virtually totaled. No driver's license, no English, no ownership of the car. And guess what--no police report either. Another incident was my child's friend. Just got done working on his car and got it all ready--(an old one but one that worked) An illegal totalled it.
I won't bore you with yet another incident.

So they can't tell ME illegals cause no problems.
Jennifer

Maysville, GA

#17 Apr 20, 2009
It is sad to see the comments posted. Why so much hate and finger pointing? Think of all the problems you are having and if a flicker of hope to those problems is to travel to another state for employment to earn money to support your family?!

Would you do it?!! Better yet the question is can you imagine yourself in this situation??!

Allow me to answer my own question.

NO, you can not imagine yourself in this situation. And that is why we have all these negative responses I see posted to the illegal immigration debate.

I don't want you to put yourself in someone elses shoe perse, but take care of your own with all that energy you waste on being negative towards illegals.
Everyone has a story.

Illegal immigrants that work, look over their shoulders every day to see when the government is coming to get them.
They probably can not drive, but have to because they have to for the sake of whatever they are forced to drive.
It may seem that they laugh all the time, but they know no security or have no real homebase.

Do not concern yourself with illegal immigrants and have hatred towards them. Focus on yourself and see how much better your life will become.
Dinah

Triangle, VA

#18 Apr 20, 2009
Jennifer wrote:
It is sad to see the comments posted. Why so much hate and finger pointing? Think of all the problems you are having and if a flicker of hope to those problems is to travel to another state for employment to earn money to support your family?!
Would you do it?!! Better yet the question is can you imagine yourself in this situation??!
Allow me to answer my own question.
NO, you can not imagine yourself in this situation. And that is why we have all these negative responses I see posted to the illegal immigration debate.
I don't want you to put yourself in someone elses shoe perse, but take care of your own with all that energy you waste on being negative towards illegals.
Everyone has a story.
Illegal immigrants that work, look over their shoulders every day to see when the government is coming to get them.
They probably can not drive, but have to because they have to for the sake of whatever they are forced to drive.
It may seem that they laugh all the time, but they know no security or have no real homebase.
Do not concern yourself with illegal immigrants and have hatred towards them. Focus on yourself and see how much better your life will become.
YOU, my dear have been brainwashed. Go back to wonderland until you learn how to function in the real world.
Josh

Pell City, AL

#19 Apr 26, 2009
Ignorant people shouldn't post. These poultry plants have been in business 30+ years yet the illegals only came about 10 years ago. So who do yopu think worked there before???? They intentionally thumb there nose at INS/ICE. Dont say that Americans wont take the jobs. Wayne's knowingly hire illegals. The same is true with Cagles in collinsvile. I tried to get a job there and they didnt even have an application in English!!
tax payer

Birmingham, AL

#20 May 30, 2009
Illegal means "against the law".
carmona albertville al

Kimberly, AL

#21 Jul 13, 2009
people dont realize how hard it is for alians to get a visa to come here. i know because we been trying for 5 years now to get one for my husband and well they lost the paper work 3 times and well then you get to start over. just to get to get a visitors visa you have to show you have money in the bank and a home job and plan to return to your country. also if you have never been to mexico you need to go there and see how the people in mexico city live, the houses are made from cement block only the inside walls are block and the floors are cement they work and only make about 15 dollars a day. why dont those who have done all the complaining try to live that way!!!! I know this all from experience!!! so dont put them down for trying to do better for there families. besides that at some point in all of our families there were family members who come to the us illegally, research your family tree.

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