Islam not defined by evil behavior of the few

Full story: Monterey County Herald

I t was interesting to read Neil Shapiro's Aug. 19 commentary regarding the planned construction of the Islamic center near ground zero.

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VInVin

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Does 16000 separate terror attacks by muslims in 9 years constitute a few ?
How about 22 pages of headlines a week ?

thats how much news this vile cult generates.

poorly researched ''article''
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The “silent majority”, are the ones who in many ways make the violence possible. They say the same prayers. They go to the same mosques. They hear the same imams. They read the same holy book. Most, if not all, know who the radicals are because they are their parents, children or siblings. The “silent majority” support the Muslim charities and they know who is involved in terrorist planning but they stay silent. Silence is one form of approval. They will live with the benefits of a Muslim victory over the West. They will gladly accept the jizya and live off the fruits of non-Muslim labor. Peace can only exist between Muslims, not between Muslims and others.
The Koran kills

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It makes terrorists. Jihadwatch.org
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I got bored halfway through, but if Diallo's point is that Islam isn't violent because the Koran says so, then that's silly. Of course the holy book announces certain tenets, but it's how they're co-opted by fanatics that matters.

And that's not limited to Islam. It's just more of a problem with that faith nowadays than with others.
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While I agree that no one should be judged by the actions of others, this article takes liberty with the facts.

Are 450 million Muslims “a few”? According to Gallup, about 36% of Muslims believe that 9/11 was either fully or partially justified. That was Islam’s worst massacre in some time, so you have to wonder how many more support groups like Hezbollah and Hamas.

Also, I’ve read the Qur’an, and there is nothing in it about how prophet Muhammad “protected and supported Jewish and Christian populations.” There is a part in Sura 9 about Muslims being commanded to subjugate the “People of the Book” until they agree to pay protection money – a later passage that abrogates the earlier bit about “no compulsion.” According to the Hadith, Muhammad actually cursed Jews and Christians on his deathbed and ordered them to be expelled from Arabia – which they were.
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Behaviour of a few? Since the Big Mo popped his cloggs centuries ago, we've had blood spilled in the name of Islam and millions have died, as they continue to die today.

This "behaviour of a few" is nonsense.
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The attempts at rehabilitation of Islam in the American media funded by Saudi Arabiaian fundamentalism.

Stay tuned..

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Since I'm assuming you're all Christians I'd like to know why, as fellow Christians you support and agree with the Westboro Baptist Church and the teachings of its founder, Fred Phelps. And why you applaud his groups picketing of the funerals of our fallen military. It's astounding to me that you would agree with his tactics.

You, too, are part of his hate-filled rhetoric and actions since you, too, are Christians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist...
passerby

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" It reflects not only Shapiro's ignorance of Islam but also, and more importantly, the lazy bias that characterizes many of our compatriots' thinking. It empowers them to label anything without taking the time to educate themselves about it.

Has Shapiro ever read the Quran, the holy book that seeks to guide the behavior of Muslims everywhere? I believe not, for if he had, he would have found the edict stating that there is no compulsion in religion,"

Those tired old lines about "no compulsion in religion," plus educate yourselfs about Islam

Give it up mate, it's not working. You may be a great guy but that is inspite of Islam not because of Islam. lol
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I don't agree with everything Neil Shapiro says, but he made a lot of good points in this one. Gotta admit, though, Islamists must be the most insecure people in the world, when you consider how they react to any slight, real or imagined, to their religion. In contrast, Jews and Christians are continually disrespected by Muslims, yet it's the Muslims who get all upset when this is pointed out. When I see Christian churches and synagogues welcomed in Islamic countries, then I'll be comfortable with Islam in the USA. Otherwise, far as I am concerned, we can do without Islam here.

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passerby wrote:
The attempts at rehabilitation of Islam in the American media funded by Saudi Arabiaian fundamentalism.
Stay tuned..
I suppose you haven't heard that Saudi Arabia is one of the biggest share-holders of News Corporation. News Corporation is Rupert Murdoch. Rupert Murdoch is Fox News. Why aren't you staying tuned for the takeover of your 'leaders' by the Saudis?
Handsome Devil

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sunnycali wrote:
Since I'm assuming you're all Christians I'd like to know why, as fellow Christians you support and agree with the Westboro Baptist Church and the teachings of its founder, Fred Phelps. And why you applaud his groups picketing of the funerals of our fallen military. It's astounding to me that you would agree with his tactics.
You, too, are part of his hate-filled rhetoric and actions since you, too, are Christians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist...
No - some of us are atheists. We don't all believe or follow desert fairy tales.:-)
passerby

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sunnycali wrote:
Since I'm assuming you're all Christians I'd like to know why, as fellow Christians you support and agree with the Westboro Baptist Church and the teachings of its founder, Fred Phelps. And why you applaud his groups picketing of the funerals of our fallen military. It's astounding to me that you would agree with his tactics.
You, too, are part of his hate-filled rhetoric and actions since you, too, are Christians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist...
Mate I don't practice any religion.
If I was it certainly wouldn't be any of the religiously chauvinistic and misogynistic ones which evolved in the middle east

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Again, why isn't anyone up in arms over the fact that the biggest shareholders of News Corporation/Fox News is Saudi prince Al-Waleed bin Talal?

And why is it that anchors on Fox News have absolutely no problem mentioning Imam Rauf's name over and over and over again. And questioning where the money is coming from? Yet they never mention Al-Waleed. Not once.

Follow the money. And please do just the most minor amount of critical thinking.
passerby

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I suppose you haven't heard that Saudi Arabia is one of the biggest share-holders of News Corporation. News Corporation is Rupert Murdoch. Rupert Murdoch is Fox News. Why aren't you staying tuned for the takeover of your 'leaders' by the Saudis?
Murdock still owns the majority, what's your point? Corporations have no soul, most are profit driven.

Please define "your leaders" before I respond.

Than you

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passerby wrote:
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Mate I don't practice any religion.
If I was it certainly wouldn't be any of the religiously chauvinistic and misogynistic ones which evolved in the middle east
Basically ALL religions have been chauvinistic and misogynistic. You need look no further than the Catholic church.
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HereWeGoAgain wrote:
I don't agree with everything Neil Shapiro says, but he made a lot of good points in this one. Gotta admit, though, Islamists must be the most insecure people in the world, when you consider how they react to any slight, real or imagined, to their religion. In contrast, Jews and Christians are continually disrespected by Muslims, yet it's the Muslims who get all upset when this is pointed out. When I see Christian churches and synagogues welcomed in Islamic countries, then I'll be comfortable with Islam in the USA. Otherwise, far as I am concerned, we can do without Islam here.
Apparently you have never heard of the First Ammendment, or perhaps you forgot about that little war we fought in 1776. America was settled by people seeking relief from religious persecution. Maybe we should round up all the Muslims and put them in internment camps like we did with the Japenese after Pearl Harbor.

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HereWeGoAgain wrote:
I don't agree with everything Neil Shapiro says, but he made a lot of good points in this one. Gotta admit, though, Islamists must be the most insecure people in the world, when you consider how they react to any slight, real or imagined, to their religion. In contrast, Jews and Christians are continually disrespected by Muslims, yet it's the Muslims who get all upset when this is pointed out. When I see Christian churches and synagogues welcomed in Islamic countries, then I'll be comfortable with Islam in the USA. Otherwise, far as I am concerned, we can do without Islam here.
Why are you comparing the United States to any other country? We should be as good as we can possibly be without resorting to grade school games - "nyah, nyah, nyah - I'm not gonna."

Our country was founded on principles which many are now discarding because of right-wing smear and fear tactics. It seems that an era of McCarthyism isn't far behind. Or even worse.
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Why is it that usually black sheep are considered nothing but black sheep, while many critics hold Islam to a separate standard in which the black sheep define the entire religion?

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passerby wrote:
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Murdock still owns the majority, what's your point? Corporations have no soul, most are profit driven.
Please define "your leaders" before I respond.
Than you
The 'leaders' are those who are engaging in fear mongering and many of those fear mongerers work for or own Fox News / News Corporation.

What's my point? My point is that our country is being told to believe that those from the Middle East are evil. Yet I haven't heard one person who is denouncing Islam and/or the Islamic cultural center say a single negative word about following the money behind Fox News and News Corporation. It's really not a difficult point to grasp and I'm surprised that you even have to ask me what the point is.

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