Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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“Act Interdimensional ly”

Since: Jan 08

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#76217 Sep 2, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
Bizzaro
It's like a tram smash. I want to turn away but I just can't stop staring.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#76218 Sep 2, 2014
No, Papa.

(smiles)

Since: May 12

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#76219 Sep 2, 2014
JOEL wrote:
Joel, Joel
Yes, Papa
Eating honey
No, Papa
Wasting money
No, Papa
Smoking cigars
No, Papa
Drinking beer
No, Papa
Getting laid
No, Papa
Driving me crazy
No, Papa
Dressing in drag
No, Papa
Eating biryani
No, Papa
Telling lies
No, Papa
Open your mouth
ha ha ho ho hee hee
What you type doesn't make any sense nor is funny.

You need to go to a mental hospita,l ASAP.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#76220 Sep 2, 2014
Joel, Joel, Joel,
Yes, Papa

Drinking wine
No, Papa

Eating pickles
No, Papa

Bathing naked
No, Papa

Happily married
No, Papa

Back to school
No, Papa

Climbing trees
No, Papa

Mowing the lawn
No, Papa

Bashing gays,
No, Papa

ha ha ha ha
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#76221 Sep 2, 2014
PRACTICE OVER AND ABOVE PRECEPT:

Practice is better than precept!

An ounce of practice is worth more than a ton of bookish knowledge.

Religion remains a far-fetched fantasy as long as one is involved in sterile debates, or in mindless rituals that keep one moored on the bedrock of delusion.

The best way to confirm religious teachings is to enter the states of consciousness that the prophets and sages and saints and seers possessed and to see things for oneself. If this can be achieved through intense mystical discipline then one knows firsthand what religious truths are all about. Until this Herculean feat can be achieved, one remains in a state of delusion and becomes either a naive believer or an ignorant atheist.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#76222 Sep 2, 2014
JOEL wrote:
PRACTICE OVER AND ABOVE PRECEPT:
Practice is better than precept!
An ounce of practice is worth more than a ton of bookish knowledge.
Religion remains a far-fetched fantasy as long as one is involved in sterile debates, or in mindless rituals that keep one moored on the bedrock of delusion.
The best way to confirm religious teachings is to enter the states of consciousness that the prophets and sages and saints and seers possessed and to see things for oneself. If this can be achieved through intense mystical discipline then one knows firsthand what religious truths are all about. Until this Herculean feat can be achieved, one remains in a state of delusion and becomes either a naive believer or an ignorant atheist.
So, that leaves you out.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#76223 Sep 2, 2014
TOOLS OF RELIGION

Religion is religare - a means to yoke the individual self with the superself via mystical discipline.

Religion is not about belief or faith or denial.

Religion is all about direct experience and realization.

The direct experiences with supraphysical ranges of existence which house the roots of spirituality count for everything where religion is concerned.

Here there are no hypothetical mathematical models, brain-wracking, conjecture, inference or trial and error methods using lab instruments.

In this rarefied discipline of mysticism, the only instrument is the self which manifests through the mental apparatus.

In other disciplines, the mind remains anchored to its exteriorized functional mode and needs to be turned outward to investigate events or needs to to be furnished by sense-informed data, whereas, in the mystical mode, the mind needs to be withdrawn from the disturbing senses and quietened and turned inwards and made to open up using various mystical tools like mantras and meditation on the specific force centers in the nervous system or above the head so that the indrawn mind can merge with the superior states of consciousness and gradually comes into possession of the highest causal knowledge and gains all power and all perfection as final results.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#76224 Sep 2, 2014
JOEL wrote:
TOOLS OF RELIGION
Religion is religare - a means to yoke the individual self with the superself via mystical discipline.
Religion is not about belief or faith or denial.
Actually the Latin (i.e., language of the Roman Catholic religion) word religare stands for the binding of PEOPLE together under one set of beliefs. Joel, you can't change definitions and word derivation (etymology) to suit your purposes.

Since: Aug 14

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#76225 Sep 2, 2014
LOL.

Religare is a Latin word that means to bind, to tie, to fasten, to bind, to yoke.

Since: Aug 14

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#76226 Sep 2, 2014
RELIGION REALIZATION REALITY

Religion is actually a rediscovery of the true self which involves a re-binding of the apparently separated individualized self to the higher self. The higher self is the source of the whole of existence and of the universal causal laws. God, Gods, angels, devils, heavens, hells and our 4-dimensional universe with its planets and stars and sentient beings are aspects of the singular, self existent higher self which in simple terms is an absolute state of pure potentiality in terms of matter, energy and consciousness that are simply the various expressions of one reality.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#76227 Sep 2, 2014
J RULES wrote:
LOL.
Religare is a Latin word that means to bind, to tie, to fasten, to bind, to yoke.
Yeah, Joel. And what is being bound, tied and fastened? The etymology is that it is a group of people being bound together. You can't expect the Roman Catholic Church who coined the word to use your ridiculous definition.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#76228 Sep 2, 2014
J RULES wrote:
RELIGION REALIZATION REALITY
Religion is actually a rediscovery of the true self which involves a re-binding of the apparently separated individualized self to the higher self. The higher self is the source of the whole of existence and of the universal causal laws. God, Gods, angels, devils, heavens, hells and our 4-dimensional universe with its planets and stars and sentient beings are aspects of the singular, self existent higher self which in simple terms is an absolute state of pure potentiality in terms of matter, energy and consciousness that are simply the various expressions of one reality.
Only in your warped mind.

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#76229 Sep 2, 2014
The various religions of the world are simply the different opinions of their various founders that arose at different points in time. Their opinions contain some truth and mostly mind control lies as seen through their ignorant teachings of mumbo jumbo, tribalism, wars, genocides, blood sacrifices, body mutilation, fanaticism, oppression of minorities, silencing dissent, suppressing women'r rights and perpetuation of misery. Such scriptural teachings lead to negative connotation of which is to bind a believer further into mindless submission, fear, bigotry and terror.

Since: Aug 14

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#76230 Sep 2, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>

Yeah, Joel. And what is being bound, tied and fastened? The etymology is that it is a group of people being bound together. You can't expect the Roman Catholic Church who coined the word to use your ridiculous definition.
The Church is not the originator of the Latin language but used it for their purposes.

The name Latin derives from the Italic tribal group named Latini that settled at some time in Latium, and the dialect spoken by these people. Latin is a member of the broad family of Italic languages. Its alphabet, the Latin alphabet, emerged from the Old Italic alphabets, which in turn were derived from the Greek and Phoenician scripts. Historical Latin came from the prehistoric language of the Latium region, specifically around the River Tiber, where Roman civilization first developed.

The word religare has a general meaning which is to tie, to connect, to yoke and can be used in any context.

For example, the religare or to bind can mean to unite the scattered rays of the mind, or bring together the unregenerate emotions so as to remedy them or to collect one's scattered thoughts so as to refine them or to merge the lower self with the higher self in an act of binding.

Jesus - the supreme authority of the Catholic Church - always spoke of union of the self with the supreme. Nothing less.

LOL

Since: Aug 14

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#76231 Sep 2, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>

Only in your warped mind.
The words absolute self or supreme self can be replaced with the word singularity - a self existent source of information in terms of a state of pure potentiality of matter, energy and sentience - and the meaning of my write-up remains the same when viewed from any perspective.

Nondualism or Monism whether of the scientific kind (which is purely physical and which alludes to one self-existent source that through an act of self-manifestation objectivized the multidimensional cosmos from itself) or of the mystical kind (which only adds sentience to the state of pure potentiality) is the basis of reality and of existence.

Everything else is mumbo jumbo.

Since: Aug 14

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#76232 Sep 2, 2014
TRIBALISM VERSUS UNIVERSALISM

1) The ordinary movement of the mind is towards contraction which seeks solace in tribalism which eventually degrades into intolerance, fanaticism, barbarism, exclusivity and ignorance of the broader reality. This is a self-destructive trend.

2) The refined movement of the mind is towards universalism in which one breaks breaks free of the narrow and benighted confines of tribalism and reaches out to a greater reality leading to growth and progress and inclusivity.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#76233 Sep 3, 2014
J RULES wrote:
....teachings of mumbo jumbo,..r.
Mumbo jumbo is something, thanks to you, we are all very familiar with on this thread

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#76234 Sep 3, 2014
J RULES wrote:
RELIGION REALIZATION REALITY
Religion is actually a rediscovery of the true self which involves a re-binding of the apparently separated individualized self to the higher self. The higher self is the source of the whole of existence and of the universal causal laws. God, Gods, angels, devils, heavens, hells and our 4-dimensional universe with its planets and stars and sentient beings are aspects of the singular, self existent higher self which in simple terms is an absolute state of pure potentiality in terms of matter, energy and consciousness that are simply the various expressions of one reality.
so when you denigrate others on this thread, if I understand you correctly, you are really working towards rebinding your singular self to the higher self?

The Lord works in mysterious ways I guess.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#76235 Sep 3, 2014
J RULES wrote:
<quoted text>
The Church is not the originator of the Latin language but used it for their purposes.
The name Latin derives from the Italic tribal group named Latini that settled at some time in Latium, and the dialect spoken by these people. Latin is a member of the broad family of Italic languages. Its alphabet, the Latin alphabet, emerged from the Old Italic alphabets, which in turn were derived from the Greek and Phoenician scripts. Historical Latin came from the prehistoric language of the Latium region, specifically around the River Tiber, where Roman civilization first developed.
The word religare has a general meaning which is to tie, to connect, to yoke and can be used in any context.
For example, the religare or to bind can mean to unite the scattered rays of the mind, or bring together the unregenerate emotions so as to remedy them or to collect one's scattered thoughts so as to refine them or to merge the lower self with the higher self in an act of binding.
Jesus - the supreme authority of the Catholic Church - always spoke of union of the self with the supreme. Nothing less.
LOL
The question Joel is not who invented Latin. The question is who coined the use of the word religare to mean a group untied in a belief system. It was the Roman Catholic Church.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#76236 Sep 3, 2014
Yawn. Fool. LOL

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