Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71185 Apr 9, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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not a logical conclusion, more like a hypothesis -(Nature vs nurture)

and that includes your vibes theory as well - which you accurately labeled a surmise. Baby steps, baby steps...
So, in the absence of a genetic basis, what, then, accounts for personality traits, for psychological inheritance and for superior conscious states like intuition?

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71186 Apr 9, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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THIS IS YELLING
Don't take out your business frustration or whatever else on me.

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#71187 Apr 9, 2014
former res wrote:
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Most of our public pensions are way underfunded. And unemployment is slowly improving. And of course too much debt.
I had seen where many Europeans were used to retiring at a fairly young age - 50 or so which didn't seem sustainable. Here the youngest age one can get Social Security is 62 (at a reduced level).
Currently in Italy the youngest age to get a pension is between 62 and 66. The difference depends upon which of the three categories (public employment, private employment and self-employment) a person fits in.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71188 Apr 9, 2014
The difficulty with regards to understanding human personality is increased by the lack of a genetic mechanism to account for psychological inheritance.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71189 Apr 9, 2014
BOTTOM LINE

The lack of understanding of the root causes of personality is even more evident for subjective states such as self-awareness, abstraction, conscious reflection, intuition, inspiration and revelation. The poet, the artisan, the sage, the philosopher, the gifted musician, the wizard of science are not only linked by heredity but also through a vertical non-genetic hereditary transmission.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#71190 Apr 9, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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So, in the absence of a genetic basis, what, then, accounts for personality traits, for psychological inheritance and for superior conscious states like intuition?
Genetic "basis" - maybe. "Linear" genetic causation - not proven yet. More like an interaction between nature and nurture.

Its fairly reasonable to surmise that one has hardware, and then different experiences bring out expression of that hardware. However, we are probably wired for many more (and conflicting) possibilities than what nature randomly forces us to express.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#71191 Apr 9, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Don't take out your business frustration or whatever else on me.
That was an example, not a real yell. Consider it a teachable moment.

Does one always have to be frustrated to yell? I think not.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71192 Apr 9, 2014
former res wrote:
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Very good. Environment acts upon the organism.

This still does not state which of the two has the greater influence or is more important.
Hello Uncle Former,

Do the characteristics of a tree reside in its protoplasm or in the soil, water, sunlight and air which are simply contributing factors that best bring out the structural and functional traits of the tree that're inherent in the seed?

In the same way, environmental impulses can affect the way the innate personality of the individual responds and shapes up but the thing to be acted upon and the thing to be shaped inhere in the organism, otherwise none of us will be distinct individual in our own right.

Dozens of people are acted upon by the same environmental impulses say in a classroom or in a family but in spite of a common set of external stimuli being received by those inhabiting the same physical space yet each one responds differently on account of the uniqueness of each person's inner makeup and the unique combination of latent tendencies that reside within each person. No two individuals are exactly alike in personality, not even identical twins nor clones, even when subjected to the same set of environmental influences.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71193 Apr 9, 2014
former res wrote:
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Obviously genetics will bestow certain abilities and limitations on the offspring.
Genes confer on the organism its physical traits but it is reasonable to suppose that during conception, we, aside from the bodily traits, also receive from parents/ancestors a combination of personality traits imbued in the sperm and ovum in the form of fields of living energy - that underlie the chemical bits (genes)- that're charged with their psychological and emotional patterns and this is why we resemble (in physical characteristics as well as in personality) our parents or certain ancestors, to an extent.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71194 Apr 9, 2014
former res wrote:
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What do you mean by the sperm and ovum being "conscious" ?
Sperm and ovum are charged with the seed of sentience since the sentience of the parents is imbued in every body cell.

This latent sentience in the gametes manifests in greater measure as the instrumental parts of the body grow.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71195 Apr 9, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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That was an example, not a real yell. Consider it a teachable moment.

Does one always have to be frustrated to yell? I think not.
Ok, Dad, chill.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#71196 Apr 9, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Hello Uncle Former,
Do the characteristics of a tree reside in its protoplasm or in the soil, water, sunlight and air which are simply contributing factors that best bring out the structural and functional traits of the tree that're inherent in the seed?
In the same way, environmental impulses can affect the way the innate personality of the individual responds and shapes up but the thing to be acted upon and the thing to be shaped inhere in the organism, otherwise none of us will be distinct individual in our own right.
Dozens of people are acted upon by the same environmental impulses say in a classroom or in a family but in spite of a common set of external stimuli being received by those inhabiting the same physical space yet each one responds differently on account of the uniqueness of each person's inner makeup and the unique combination of latent tendencies that reside within each person. No two individuals are exactly alike in personality, not even identical twins nor clones, even when subjected to the same set of environmental influences.
So why do we have to choose? We do know that children from the same parents - same genes - same family environment - turn out completely differently. One's sibling may be a serial killer while the other may be a physician or an accountant.

We know we need the seed, the sun, the water to make a flower.

We know we need fuel, oxygen and ignition for fire.

Who's to say which if any is more important than the other?

The thing is for you to not judge gays and call them or their activities wrong or abnormal or unhealthy.

Unlike the Jamaican, you cannot blame your willful ignorance on the old book you read from on Sunday morning.(or in his case, Saturday...)

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71198 Apr 9, 2014
MAKE OVER

Tomorrow, the architects will be coming over to the Altamount Road apartment to make a survey. I intend refurbishing the apartment. I give my apartments a facelift every year so that everything is in great shape. The Altamount Road place is a huge 3 bedroom apartment with a living room, 3 bathrooms, each bedroom opens out through French windows to a lovely sitting area, a kitchen with a dining alcove, a store room and a small room for any servant who may decide to stay the night. The Cuffe Parade apartment, the apartment where my late parents and me and my late sister lived, is a 4 bedroom apartment with additional rooms. I have leased out the Cuffe Parade apartment. I bought this Altamount Road apartment after I cut ties with that monstrous man and besides I needed a change of atmosphere to get rid of the old baggage. Altamount Road is swankier than Cuffe Parade and nearer to the commercial areas of the city. My cousins live down the road. Just 100 m down the lane is industrialist Mukesh Ambani's soaring cantilevered 2 billion dollar mansion, Antilia. The exclusive Japanese consulate is a little uphill on elite Carmichael Road.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71199 Apr 9, 2014
Good night.

yehoshooah adam

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

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#71200 Apr 9, 2014
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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How can anyone be in agreement with someone or something that doesn't communicate with us at all?
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Rabbee, the existence of god cannot be compared with the existence of a sapling in a forest.
What Christopher said can be better explained by Dawkins:
"There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?" (Richard Dawkins)
rabbee: just because your not paying attention, does not mean i cannot see that G-D is doing exactly as promised here in THEIR Story.

i can see what G-D, said with wwi, wwii, the holocaust. this is all visual, not necessarily all audio visual, from an actual encounter with G-D like with me.

i can see there is pestilence, plague, and famine in this world saying something from G-D. in this world that has to increase, their stupidity to not see these signs and interpret them with G-D. so yes G-D is talking to you all, but your blind eyes are not hearing.

so do not tell me, G-D is not saying anything. even with the increase of 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 10 with the cancer plague. just like G-D spoke, indirectly using the visual plagues of egypt. just like G-D spoke to the jews, by having their temples destroyed is also visual event talking, taken into slavery, dispersed, invaded by romans, taking fourty years to cross a desert that only takes two weeks to cross, and Moshe not crossing the river, with mostly the deadbeats.

and still they cannot see, how badly they are screwing up. claiming their too innocent and good, for G-D to punish. and you wonder why i have no intention, to join their religion of extrovert masochists.

and if you want to listen, to someone's expert mythological explanations. and dawkins is nothing more, than an intellectual imbecile. and your are, what you eat from them. and i am the analogy, of that G-D'S sapling in the forest.

i do not have an earthly father, i only have an earthly surrogate Mother Jewell. this is how G-D has returned me here in The Story THEY are giving. neither Adam nor the his son adam, ever have an earthly father. they only have The Surrogate earthly Mothers to fill in the flesh. people do not arrive here, the way medical science myth claims is random. it is extremely precise and exact, process according to G-D.

none of you are different subtle talking critters, than the last two times, G-D gave this same story with all of you and your exact same grandmother of all. this is your third Torot time, here in this exact same again story from G-D. this story happens the way G-D says, not the way any of you delusion it without G-D. so far there is no difference, in this world making all the same mental mistakes as the last two Torot times. and as long as this world, does not believe we are here in The Story from G-D. it ain't going to happen, any different, than as already prewritten.

i do not care about you, i cannot be either atheist, agnostic, or any other pagan muslim, christian, jew. i do not get to elect whether G-D, comes to visit with me or not. because it says so in The Torah, that G-D visits with Noach, Avraham, Moshe, Adam and adam. so we cannot ever get out of G-D, coming to visit with us ever in this so far reoccurring story. cause this world has never made it to GanEden.

and as long as this world never makes it to GanEden, we are going to have to do it again. so world do not expect me or G-D to thank any of you, for you all screwing this story up again and keeping us all out of GanEden. and i have a bad feeling, your hell is about to get worse on this planet. and you may be fortunate, if half of this world is still alive when G-D is finished. cause it is getting really close again, for G-D to take off for the day of rest. as i can't wait to hear, medical sciences mythological excuses for this. in order to keep, this world from repenting to G-D.

Adam 36

Since: Aug 13

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#71201 Apr 9, 2014
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: just because your not paying attention, does not mean i cannot see that G-D is doing exactly as promised here in THEIR Story.
i can see what G-D, said with wwi, wwii, the holocaust. this is all visual, not necessarily all audio visual, from an actual encounter with G-D like with me.
i can see there is pestilence, plague, and famine in this world saying something from G-D. in this world that has to increase, their stupidity to not see these signs and interpret them with G-D. so yes G-D is talking to you all, but your blind eyes are not hearing.
so do not tell me, G-D is not saying anything. even with the increase of 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 10 with the cancer plague. just like G-D spoke, indirectly using the visual plagues of egypt. just like G-D spoke to the jews, by having their temples destroyed is also visual event talking, taken into slavery, dispersed, invaded by romans, taking fourty years to cross a desert that only takes two weeks to cross, and Moshe not crossing the river, with mostly the deadbeats.
and still they cannot see, how badly they are screwing up. claiming their too innocent and good, for G-D to punish. and you wonder why i have no intention, to join their religion of extrovert masochists.
and if you want to listen, to someone's expert mythological explanations. and dawkins is nothing more, than an intellectual imbecile. and your are, what you eat from them. and i am the analogy, of that G-D'S sapling in the forest.
i do not have an earthly father, i only have an earthly surrogate Mother Jewell. this is how G-D has returned me here in The Story THEY are giving. neither Adam nor the his son adam, ever have an earthly father. they only have The Surrogate earthly Mothers to fill in the flesh. people do not arrive here, the way medical science myth claims is random. it is extremely precise and exact, process according to G-D.
none of you are different subtle talking critters, than the last two times, G-D gave this same story with all of you and your exact same grandmother of all. this is your third Torot time, here in this exact same again story from G-D. this story happens the way G-D says, not the way any of you delusion it without G-D. so far there is no difference, in this world making all the same mental mistakes as the last two Torot times. and as long as this world, does not believe we are here in The Story from G-D. it ain't going to happen, any different, than as already prewritten.
i do not care about you, i cannot be either atheist, agnostic, or any other pagan muslim, christian, jew. i do not get to elect whether G-D, comes to visit with me or not. because it says so in The Torah, that G-D visits with Noach, Avraham, Moshe, Adam and adam. so we cannot ever get out of G-D, coming to visit with us ever in this so far reoccurring story. cause this world has never made it to GanEden.
and as long as this world never makes it to GanEden, we are going to have to do it again. so world do not expect me or G-D to thank any of you, for you all screwing this story up again and keeping us all out of GanEden. and i have a bad feeling, your hell is about to get worse on this planet. and you may be fortunate, if half of this world is still alive when G-D is finished. cause it is getting really close again, for G-D to take off for the day of rest. as i can't wait to hear, medical sciences mythological excuses for this. in order to keep, this world from repenting to G-D.
You are not paying attention to yourself. If Jews are not Hebrews then what was the Karma that murdered 6 million Jews in the Holocaust?

yehoshooah adam

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#71202 Apr 9, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
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Are you now justifying the Holocaust due to a lack of innocence? You claimed Jews violated
G-d's laws and invoked KARMA. Yet, you also claim they are not Jews.
Your cognitive dissonance is getting the best of you.
rabbee: first of all i never made any claim, about who is or who is not a jew.

and G-D'S justice, is seen today everywhere you look. even the titanic and the iceberg, always falling in love. and bad stuff happens, to the enemies of G-D as promised. cause just calling yourself, jew, christian, or muslim makes you true to G-D.

the only reason the romans, could succeed in their invasion of Yesrael, is because the jews screwed up without G-D again. and still today, they talk like the jews, were innocent even then. to give them a warm comfy illusion, they are innocent today.

as the only claim i have made, is these who call themselves jew are not true to G-D still here in TheTorah today. as the last thing i want to do, is to join a religion of egotistical arrogant masochists who only think they are doing no wrong according to them. cause even converting to being a jew, does not make anyone true to G-D here and now in TheTorah.

Adam 36

Since: Aug 13

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#71203 Apr 9, 2014
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: first of all i never made any claim, about who is or who is not a jew.
and G-D'S justice, is seen today everywhere you look. even the titanic and the iceberg, always falling in love. and bad stuff happens, to the enemies of G-D as promised. cause just calling yourself, jew, christian, or muslim makes you true to G-D.
the only reason the romans, could succeed in their invasion of Yesrael, is because the jews screwed up without G-D again. and still today, they talk like the jews, were innocent even then. to give them a warm comfy illusion, they are innocent today.
as the only claim i have made, is these who call themselves jew are not true to G-D still here in TheTorah today. as the last thing i want to do, is to join a religion of egotistical arrogant masochists who only think they are doing no wrong according to them. cause even converting to being a jew, does not make anyone true to G-D here and now in TheTorah.
According to your theory Jews must have something right to be returned to their land after 2,000 years.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#71204 Apr 9, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
MAKE OVER
The exclusive Japanese consulate is a little uphill on elite Carmichael Road.
What makes a consulate exclusive?

Adam 36

Since: Aug 13

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#71205 Apr 9, 2014
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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where was G-D, at awschwitz? still giving the alleged as jews hell and death, for not being here in TheTorah THEY are still giving.
since the alleged as jews, are still bearing false witness against G-D here in TheTorah still. G-D even commanded the romans, to give them hell and death too for not being true to G-D here in TheTorah.

rabbee: first of all i never made any claim, about who is or who is not a jew.

ALLEGED JEWS is not making a claim ?

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