Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

There are 72039 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 21, 2008, titled Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel. In it, Newsday reports that:

Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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#70002 Mar 24, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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Speaking of spirituality - thought this artilce was more thought provoking - probably should of posted it instead
The pseudo-science of Alcoholics Anonymous: There’s a better way to treat addiction
http://www.salon.com/2014/03/23/the_pseudo_sc...
Yea, I've read similar articles regarding AA. Skeptics have been after them for years.

AA has also been criticized for being a "faith-based" organization (i.e. One of the steps requires belief in a higher power). Not a problem for a private organization, per se, but when a court orders someone to attend a meeting where they are pushing a "higher power", that becomes a problem and a clear violation of the first amendment. From what I understand, though, they are now getting around that by downplaying that step and making it more "secular" (i.e. higher power can be nature, humanism, etc...)

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#70003 Mar 24, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
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Sorry you are incorrect. Moshiach in Hebrew means anointed one, a human leader.
The Jewish idea of mashiach is a great human leader like King David, not a savior
http://www.jewfaq.org/mashiach.htm
I agree,.

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#70004 Mar 24, 2014
Judaism, it G-d, its dualism, its human/animal sacrifices, its beliefs are borrowed from the Babylonian cults of the surrounding region. The mysticism in Judaism is not nondualism but based on some form of sorcery.

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#70005 Mar 24, 2014
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Yea, I've read similar articles regarding AA. Skeptics have been after them for years.
AA has also been criticized for being a "faith-based" organization (i.e. One of the steps requires belief in a higher power). Not a problem for a private organization, per se, but when a court orders someone to attend a meeting where they are pushing a "higher power", that becomes a problem and a clear violation of the first amendment. From what I understand, though, they are now getting around that by downplaying that step and making it more "secular" (i.e. higher power can be nature, humanism, etc...)
Reading the comments, an interesting distinction was made for those that attend voluntarily (and want on some level to quit but need some type of "assistance"), and those sentenced to attend (who just want to get their forms signed). The former group might explain the efficacy. Preconceived buy-in.

Sometime around 25-30 years ago, the courts got into game, and now the majority are in the latter group.

I started out reading that article skeptically, but by the time I finished, the author had a good point. Figure out the triggers. My inner Bhuddist won out over my inner spiritualist. Lol.

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#70006 Mar 24, 2014
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<quoted text>I agree,.
Praise be to you!

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#70007 Mar 24, 2014
typo

ITS G-d

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#70008 Mar 24, 2014
Cult of Reason wrote:
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From what I understand, though, they are now getting around that by downplaying that step and making it more "secular" (i.e. higher power can be nature, humanism, etc...)
I had assumed that they always made it general enough (though what do I know?), however, the author had a good point in that no matter what the flavor of the deity, the world view is that man is flawed and in need of some type of savoir(ing). That is an inherently Christian world view - shades of original sin - not necessarily found in other religions. I am not sure what a Jewish approach would be, but I would imagine it would involve some type of request for assistance without the self-deprecation. Or not?

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#70009 Mar 24, 2014
There's nothing original, profound or lofty in Judaism. What I mean is that before the grandeur or sublimity of say Vedanta or Buddhism, Judaism comes across as a riff raff tribal cult.

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#70010 Mar 24, 2014
Well, I enjoyed playing squash today and will be playing the fast sport regularly from now on.

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#70011 Mar 24, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
There's nothing original, profound or lofty in Judaism. What I mean is that before the grandeur or sublimity of say Vedanta or Buddhism, Judaism comes across as a riff raff tribal cult.
poser

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#70012 Mar 24, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
Judaism, it G-d, its dualism, its human/animal sacrifices, its beliefs are borrowed from the Babylonian cults of the surrounding region.
If that was really true I would of been issued a library card.
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
The mysticism in Judaism is not nondualism but based on some form of sorcery.
I'll remember that next time I need to get my broom tuned up. Better watch your back!

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#70013 Mar 24, 2014
Well, I simply love watching vids/reading books on wildlife and feel refreshed thereafter.

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#70014 Mar 24, 2014
Wild animals should not be kept/bred in captivity.

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#70015 Mar 24, 2014
Circuses that keep wild animals should be penalized and the rescued animals should be rehabilitated until they become capable of being set free in their natural habitats.

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#70016 Mar 24, 2014
Testing of pharma/cosmetic products on animals, dissection of animals in schools/university biology labs and the use of animals in cruel experiments to test endurance to stress, invasive methods using live electric currents and the like should be banned.

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#70017 Mar 24, 2014
Butchery of animals for meat should involve the stun method or use of anesthesia/pain killers as and when people desire to eat meat.

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#70018 Mar 24, 2014
Minimize killing/cruelty as far as possible.

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#70019 Mar 24, 2014
Human/animal sacrifices should be completely banned wherever they take place either covertly or overtly and these barbaric practices should be reviled as ugly relics of a savage past.

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#70020 Mar 24, 2014
Hunting of wildlife for pleasure or for recreation should be completely banned and poachers should be severely punished.

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#70021 Mar 24, 2014
Capital punishment should be banned as it is barbaric when the state indulges in murder.

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