Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#69185 Mar 11, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Brain scans revealed no damage to the organ and the only thing they noticed were nerve tremors and so they prescribed barbiturates to calm me down and said it would help me but on the contrary it harmed my CNS all the more.
I consulted the top docs (all US/Swiss educated) at Mumbai's superspeciality Breach Candy hospital in Jan 2013 after leaving that monster in Dec 2012.
My adverse condition is due to occult influence at a subtle energy level influencing my nervous system that makes me ill....
Treating the wrong disorder. They should be treating you for schizophrenia and/or manic depression. Why didnt they consider this?

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#69186 Mar 11, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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Treating the wrong disorder. They should be treating you for schizophrenia and/or manic depression. Why didnt they consider this?
They considered schizophrenia and depression but ruled it out after checks.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#69187 Mar 11, 2014
PIC

Just the other day when I discovered a pic of that monstrous ex-guru lying at the bottom of a box, the vibes radiating from it were so horrible that I took very ill.

The driver took the pic and dumped it into the sea.

After sometime when I began to feel more uncomfortable, I threw out my jeans and tee that had picked up the vibes (of electrical nature coming from his pic) and thought that was the end of it.

Still my condition did not improve and then I realized that my boxers that I had shed on the bedside chair could be the source and on checking it it sure was radiating quite a strong vibe and I packed it in a bag and with the force entering me even more through direct contact with the boxers I got it discarded far away from the apartment block.

I took 2 or 3 days to recover from that horrible experience.

That pic of his was the last material item of his that was left over since earlier I had thrown out all the rest and suffered during the process of getting rid of them.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#69188 Mar 11, 2014
ELECTRICAL FIELD FROM THE BODY

One can't approach physically too close to that monster (ex-master) since his body radiates a powerful electrical field stretching for at least 18 feet or so that gives rude shocks to one's nervous system if one tries approaching him physically without his permission.

Only after getting his permission, one can safely approach him as he turns down the strength of the electrical field radiating from his body.

Subhash Chandra Bose's body and the body of the Mother (Aurobindo's Jewish spiritual collaborator) also radiates/radiated such an electrical field.

It's dangerous to meddle with such occultists as they've been cases that I know of when persons have been killed or paralyzed or made mentally unstable for disobeying.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#69189 Mar 11, 2014
At times, people have complained of receiving minor electrical shocks from my body energy field without me venturing within 5 feet of them. However, the electrical field is too diluted in my case.....

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#69190 Mar 11, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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They considered schizophrenia and depression but ruled it out after checks.
not depression per se but bipolar disorder

What checks exactly?

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#69191 Mar 11, 2014
A HUMAN SKULL AND ME

An acquaintance was suffering from severe depression and would manifest uncontrolled rage and had a serious attention deficit disorder for years.

I noticed a disturbing vibe always radiating from his body and would avoid him.

Once I happened to meet him and impulsively visited his house.

I was affected by his vibes and by the vibes in his house.

When we entered his bedroom, I saw a real human skull placed on a side table in his room and as I went closer I perceived that the human skull was the source of the unbalanced radiation.

His father is a famous surgeon and had given him the skull thinking it had educative value. LOL.

I asked him to pick up the skull, place it in a bag and to chuck it into the sea nearby.

We threw the skull into the sea.

We put a big stone in the bag so that it would sink as soon as possible but to our surprise it floated and went out to sea.

We quickly left the place shivering and both of us came down with high fever that lasted 2 days and only after I disentangled the intruding energy from my nervous system did the fever leave me and at that instant he called me saying that the fever had also left him. Medicines did not work.

He is now fine in mind and body and behavior and if we happen to meet we never talk about that occult incident for fear of awakening of the subsided vibes that're even now arising to an extent in the energy field around me.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#69192 Mar 11, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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not depression per se but bipolar disorder

What checks exactly?
Reality checks, visual checks, auditory checks, brain scans etc. I passed all.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#69193 Mar 11, 2014
BAD EXPERIENCE

Once in an indrawn state, I saw a "black hand" with a metallic feel to it gripping the nape of my neck and trying to throttle me from behind. After a struggle - with me violently shaking and choking - the hand left me and I came out of the trance and was violently shivering after coming into direct contact with that disembodied energy formation belonging to some occultist or perhaps it was the disembodied energy field of a corpse. I came down with a high fever oozing out of the depths of my body cells. Not a single med worked and only after a week when my own energy field kick started did the fever disappear. I will never forget the incident. People were shocked to see my state.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#69194 Mar 11, 2014
WORST EXPERIENCE

I once came into direct contact with a man whose energy field locked into mine and by setting up a potential gradient it began draining out my body's energy.

The entanglement was so complete that even after reaching home the draining of my energy continued unabated.

In 1.5 days a lot of my body's energy had been drained out and I was about to collapse when a doc was called who did the needful and left.

The vampirization continued and I suffered so badly...I could not walk or speak that night when I fell into an unconscious state.

I saw in that state a figure - half animal, half human - over my head with blood dripping out of its mouth and with its neck wringed.

It was dead.

I became conscious and the force had left me with its vampirizing effect.

I was ill for a couple months and looked so bad with so much of my body's electricity drained out of me.

My family/friends were shocked.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#69195 Mar 11, 2014
CONCLUSION: While consciousness is certainly a phenomenon of matter, once it develops in the human brain due to complex neuronal activity it (consciousness) has an eerie existence of its own via its higher frequency states that're related to various brain states. It (consciousness) can affect matter through feedback loops or by entanglement in nonlocal ways. Yogis experience these modes of consciousness and can manipulate the consciousness of others and can affect material phenomena in through these causal mechanisms. Death simply releases the body-brain's electrical field with its developed patterns of sentience into the surrounding where it can either scatter or merge with a living organism or dissolve in a water body or stay in a state of suspension.

Science knows nothing about these phenomena and is simply yakking away.

A powerful occultist can paralyze or kill or make mentally ill an ignorant tall talker like Lawrence Krauss or Stephen Hawking or Richard Dawkins.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69196 Mar 11, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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We have three tribes left (that I know about about). Membership within each one is patrilineal (though Jewishness itself is matrilineal)..I honestly have no idea how we handle converts regarding tribal membership, I will ask around. Yes, they are still considered Jews with all obligations.
Questions mainly answered
Does your tush still shine?
HughBe---Let me change it to make you comfortable. Jews are PHYSICAL DESCENDANTS of a man called Israel.

Now, the land of Israel was given to these people and NOT to converts to a religion that did NOT exist when the covenant was made with Abraham and which was confirmed with his SEED meaning Isaac and Israel.

How are CONVERTS to Judaism assigned to the 12 tribes by your overlords? Do they have FULL rights to land given that they are now JEWS?

Frijoles---We have three tribes left (that I know about about).

HughBe--- Why is this so? Is it because the God of Moses was incapable of protecting and PRESERVING the other 9 TRIBES?

Given that there are only 3 TRIBES left was it not ABSURD and FOOLISH for Joshua and his God YHWH to have divided Israel among the 12 tribes? Don't you see that it makes a MOCKERY of the division concept? Speaking about di-VISION I believe that YHWH could not see into the future and so He spoke of dividing the land of Israel among the 12 Tribes. Heck He should have given Levi some of the land, after all I believe that they are numbered among your 3 REMAINING tribes.

What happened to the promise? Did Israel himself believe that so many, 75%, of his seed would have been wiped out?

Frijoles---- Membership within each one is patrilineal (though Jewishness itself is matrilineal)..

HughBe--- Support matrilineal rule using scripture. Put it this way, use your Tanach and show me that ancestral DESCENT or GENEALOGY was TRACED through the maternal line or MOTHER. That is what it means.

Frijoles----I honestly have no idea how we handle converts regarding tribal membership, I will ask around.

HughBe---- Should not be hard, they are JEWS and besides above you said "Membership within each one is patrilineal". The question remains, do CONVERTS have FULL rights to land given that they are now JEWS?

Frijoles---Yes, they are still considered Jews with all obligations.

HughBe---- Oh I see they clearly have OBLIGATIONS but no RIGHTS i.e. land.

FRijoles---Does your tush still shine

HughBe--- Yes, it is still BLACK and shine and I keep it that way so that you are able to see your face in it when you stare at it.

Much love, Mon.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#69197 Mar 11, 2014
There are quite a few students back here who fail the challenging IIT joint entrance exam but who get accepted by MIT ! LOL.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69198 Mar 11, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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I am proud of you - you know how to read your KJV
I would be more proud of you if you would cite it in the actual native language though.
maybe next time?
HughBe--- Jews can be Muslims.

Frijoles---And Santa Claus is from Ethiopia

HughBe--- Stop listening to your rabbis and seek light and TRUTH, for a change.

Now, Dr. Frijoles please explain the text that comes next and link it to your nonsense.

Lesson: The period in question below is over 300 YEARS.

Now tell me, were the Tribe of Dan Israelites based on your man-made doctrine?

"And the children of Dan set up the graven image: and Jonathan, the son of Gershom, the son of Manasseh, he and his sons were priests to the tribe of Dan until the day of the captivity of the land.
31 And they set them up Micah's graven image, which he made, all the time that the house of God was in Shiloh."

Frijoles---I am proud of you - you know how to read your KJV

HughBe--- Let me be proud of you and demonstrate your ability to read and understand YOUR Complete Jewish Bible on the Chabad site.

After reading EXPLAIN YOUR Jewish Bible and tell me if the Tribe of Dan were Israelites based on your man-made doctrine.

Chabad is Jewish for your information.

" And the children of Dan set up for themselves the graven image. And Jonathan the son of Gershom, the son of Menasseh,(both) he and his sons were priests to the tribe of the Danites until the day of the exile of the land.
And they accepted for themselves the graven image of Micah which he had made, throughout the period that the house of God was in Shiloh." The Complete JEWISH Bible
former res

Cheshire, CT

#69199 Mar 11, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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I know of plenty people like yourself who take the prescriptions successfully. You do have to play around a little with the doses and the substitutions to get the desired effect and to reach a comfort zone with the side effects.
If it works for the zillions of other afflicted individuals, there is no reason it shouldn't eventually work for you as well. You really think you are unique? I dont think so.
Agreed. Different, yes. Unique, no.

And also that most side effects are dose-related.

Lower the dose and decrease or eliminate the side effects.

Failing that, try another drug in the same class.

Example: Motrin causes stomach upset; try Aleve,
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69200 Mar 11, 2014
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lol
Homosexuality is criminal in your mind as well. And we see where that gets you.
HughBe--- Religion has nothing to do with BIOLOGY. The link is CRIMINAL in my mind and should be treated accordingly, is my opinion.

Frijoles---Homosexuality is criminal in your mind as well. And we see where that gets you.

HughBe--- Correct the definition of antisemitic if you disagree with it. Antisemitic means "a person who discriminates against or is prejudiced or hostile toward JEWS."

So Jews are Semitic. Now, Eric the rabbi said that being Semitic has NOTHING to do with RELIGION and I suppose that includes Judaism.

Making the link for you, Semitic has to do with BIOLOGY and language and NOT religion.

So once again I say, RELIGION has nothing to do with BIOLOGY. BIOLOGY is INDEPENDENT of RELIGION.
The BIOLOGY of your father and grandfather were NOT determined by any RELIGION. This is a FACT. Any other doctrine is EVIL.

Getting back to your comment that "Homosexuality is criminal in (my) mind as well.". The thing is such a thought has its counterpart in the REAL world. It is a CRIMINAL act in many places.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#69201 Mar 11, 2014
Creation from nothing, extra-cosmic God, cosmic God, Personal God, angels, devils, soul, self and other religious beliefs are nonsense. Existence is simply a sea of energy/matter with consciousness being an emergent phenomenon of activity of energy/matter in a system that peaks in the human brain.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69202 Mar 11, 2014
HughBe----When did Judaism come into being? Hint: it did NOT start with Moses.

Former--Judaism started with Moses.

HughBe--- Really? Did you not read and understand when I told you that sages of Judaism have said that not even Moses would recognize the things attributed to him?

Moreover son, Moses EXPLICITLY stated DO NOT ADD to what he gave the Jews/Israelites. Judaism has VIOLATED this commandment. Moses himself would not recognize Judaism Think, for a change.

In any event my point was that Judaism does not make anyone a Jew regardless of the beliefs of anyone. Now since Judaism started with Moses it means that ALL the people who lived before the exodus were NOT Jews.

So not even Israel HIMSELF was a Jew. I use the word Jew as it is commonly understood today.

Finally, you were asked who was the first Jew but you have not answered it.

Here is a secret, the FACTS of the bible are clear and in the eyes of HONEST people and people who know better the doctrine that religion makes anyone a Jew is DISHONEST to say the least.

I close by repeating that Jews existed for HUNDREDS of years before anything called Judaism surfaced and that is a an UNCHANGEABLE and UNCOMFORTABLE fact of History.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69203 Mar 11, 2014
HughBe---Being Jewish has NOTHING to do with RELIGION and the least of which is Judaism.

Frijoles----I challenge you to find real live Jews in Jamaica and say that to them.

HughBe---- 1. Jamaicans tend to be HONEST people and a Jewish Jamaican is a Jamaican.
2. Would an ATHEIST Jewish Jamaican disagree with my position? NO
3. An atheists is NOT religious.
4. Your rabbis called atheists Jews.
5. Your point is pointless.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69204 Mar 11, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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I recommend a massage by a nice brawny young man, with a "happy ending". It should bring you the same level of satisfaction.
HughBe---Son, prove that you are a Jew.

Frijoles----I recommend a massage by a nice brawny young man, with a "happy ending". It should bring you the same level of satisfaction.

HughBe--- Massages are beneficial. However, one does not have to have a "HAPPY" ending but do not let me stop you from doing your thing. I shall stop before the "ending".

Still, I await the proof.

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