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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#62422 Nov 12, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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ha ha ha
You mean that Hugh is learning how to twerk at his local "gay" bar.
That's correct.
Frijoles ---Learning how to twerk at his local "friendly" bar
ha ha ha

Joel---You mean that Hugh is learning how to twerk at his local "gay" bar. That's CORRECT.

Hugh--- Indeed, it would have to be a learning experience for me. Nevertheless both of you are wrong. My understanding is that You my dear Joel were attracted to Frijoles when he did his mating call. You have not looked back since then.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#62423 Nov 12, 2013
My little children, I should be back in an hour, for a short time.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#62424 Nov 12, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: how in the hell, can you have a stable gay marriage? when research in this area has revealed, that most gays have had over 100 with some over a 1000 diverse partners. are you trying to mentally, fool yourself here with propaganda? adultery is even more common, in gay partners. so realistically it is like 100%, all adultery even without considering it is forever adultery according to G-D. but it is more like a co-dependent family. that puts on their act, when others are around. and the three gays i have met in my life, were never really happy. they can't keep up, their acting forever.
DO you really think "most gays have had over 100 with some over a 1000 diverse partners?"

I guess so

Talk about being fooled

yehoshooah adam

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#62425 Nov 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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DO you really think "most gays have had over 100 with some over a 1000 diverse partners?"
I guess so
Talk about being fooled
rabbee: does any one here, really know what goes on behind closed doors? there is usually a difference, between what they want you to think, and what actually is.

do you know what enemy intelligence, really is doing? to believe anything the enemies of G-D says, means your already in idolatrous trouble. there is a command against, trusting in the enemies of G-D.

with about seven billion enemies, here in TheTorah today. i know this can get worse, with every not here in TheTorah birth. can jews be killed, enslaved, or dispersed, without their being an enemy of G-D here in TheTorah? if they hadn't of consistently done this, they might number in the billions today too. can you think of another antiG-D excuse, why they are so few?

yehoshooah adam

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#62426 Nov 12, 2013
the reality of G-D, here in TheTorah is too hard to come by. to trust any of you, allegedly not here in IT subtle talking critters.

i am no longer on my quest from G-D, to find any one true to THEM here in TheTorah. even if it did break my heart, to finally realize. G-D was 100% right, the first time THEY came to speak to me as adam here in TheTorah just again.
Voluntarist

United States

#62427 Nov 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Statists? I think you mean statistics. And no, there were no inferential statistics quoted.
Here is the article that your article was based on http://www.economist.com/node/14743589
Besides from the fact it continues to promote the viewpoint you now disavow (that high rates of fertility are a threat to our existence), it is nothing but summary stats.
Summary stats are useless without basic modes to compare them to like mean and standard deviation, and are even more useless unless you can hypothesis test
The article depends on such statements like "there has never been a decline so rapid in the modern world". Well, that is interpretation, not statistical inference. There is no quantitative analysis to back up that statement.
To show what I mean,from wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descriptive_stat...
"....Descriptive statistics is the discipline of quantitatively describing the main features of a collection of data,[1] or the quantitative description itself. Descriptive statistics are distinguished from inferential statistics (or inductive statistics), in that descriptive statistics aim to summarize a sample, rather than use the data to learn about the population that the sample of data is thought to represent.
This generally means that descriptive statistics, unlike inferential statistics, are not developed on the basis of probability theory.[2]
Even when a data analysis draws its main conclusions using inferential statistics, descriptive statistics are generally also presented. For example in a paper reporting on a study involving human subjects, there typically appears a table giving the overall sample size, sample sizes in important subgroups (e.g., for each treatment or exposure group), and demographic or clinical characteristics such as the average age, the proportion of subjects of each sex, and the proportion of subjects with related comorbidities.
Some measures that are commonly used to describe a data set are measures of central tendency and measures of variability or dispersion. Measures of central tendency include the mean, median and mode, while measures of variability include the standard deviation (or variance), the minimum and maximum values of the variables, kurtosis and skewness.[3]
How do you function day to day being so retarded?

It mentions fertility rates in the article.

Your husband must hate you for being such an anally retentive jerk off.

yehoshooah adam

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#62428 Nov 12, 2013
waiting till the last second, to repent of the original sin of not being here in TheTorah. shall always be, one second too late.

the instant you mount, the sickly green horse of health care and medicine. hell and death, are not far behind to take the time to dismount. do i need to tell you, the name of that rider?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#62429 Nov 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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How do you function day to day being so retarded?
It mentions fertility rates in the article.
Your husband must hate you for being such an anally retentive jerk off.
Yes it mentions fertility rates but then draws no statistical conclusions. Its all interpretation.

Are you retarded?

I just posted on that.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#62430 Nov 12, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: does any one here, really know what goes on behind closed doors? there is usually a difference, between what they want you to think, and what actually is.
No I dont. But I also know most gay people dont have 1000s of partners. Thats absurd. Think about it. I am sure sometime in your life you had gay friends. Did they have 1000s of partners?

“Act Interdimensional ly”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#62431 Nov 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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No I dont. But I also know most gay people dont have 1000s of partners. Thats absurd. Think about it. I am sure sometime in your life you had gay friends. Did they have 1000s of partners?
Interestingly enough, the rampant promiscuity of gay men has been something of an urban myth and the subject of envy among straight men for a long time.

Men desire (through biological imperative) to spread their seed as widely as possible and hump everything that moves. They believe they are thwarted in this by the unfathomable resistance of women to accept said seed.

Their fantasy-induced logic assumes that if men had sex with men, their natural randiness would go unchecked by women's irrational resistance to accept their offerings of baby gravy and life would be one, long (or not so long) sex marathon.

This of course is a failing to believe that their personalities, hygiene habits and general appearance cock block them much more often than perceived female prudery and they would probably strike out with gay men as often as they do with women.
Voluntarist

United States

#62433 Nov 12, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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Interestingly enough, the rampant promiscuity of gay men has been something of an urban myth and the subject of envy among straight men for a long time.
Men desire (through biological imperative) to spread their seed as widely as possible and hump everything that moves. They believe they are thwarted in this by the unfathomable resistance of women to accept said seed.
Their fantasy-induced logic assumes that if men had sex with men, their natural randiness would go unchecked by women's irrational resistance to accept their offerings of baby gravy and life would be one, long (or not so long) sex marathon.
This of course is a failing to believe that their personalities, hygiene habits and general appearance cock block them much more often than perceived female prudery and they would probably strike out with gay men as often as they do with women.
What color is your dress nancy boy?

“Act Interdimensional ly”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#62434 Nov 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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What color is your dress nancy boy?
Are you under the impression that I would consider that an insult?

You're adorable! My own personal troglodyte.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#62435 Nov 12, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
<quoted text>
Interestingly enough, the rampant promiscuity of gay men has been something of an urban myth and the subject of envy among straight men for a long time.
Men desire (through biological imperative) to spread their seed as widely as possible and hump everything that moves. They believe they are thwarted in this by the unfathomable resistance of women to accept said seed.
Their fantasy-induced logic assumes that if men had sex with men, their natural randiness would go unchecked by women's irrational resistance to accept their offerings of baby gravy and life would be one, long (or not so long) sex marathon.
This of course is a failing to believe that their personalities, hygiene habits and general appearance cock block them much more often than perceived female prudery and they would probably strike out with gay men as often as they do with women.
Using your logic, I bet any last semblance of rampant promiscuity was wiped out once gay marriage became a possibility. Because now gay people can play all the games that straight women play regarding holding out until marriage.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#62436 Nov 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Using your logic, I bet any last semblance of rampant promiscuity was wiped out once gay marriage became a possibility. Because now gay people can play all the games that straight women play regarding holding out until marriage.
Gay persons can enjoy a lively and promiscuous sexual relationship while married in the same way straight people are in a marital relationship.

Adultery.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#62437 Nov 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Using your logic, I bet any last semblance of rampant promiscuity was wiped out once gay marriage became a possibility. Because now gay people can play all the games that straight women play regarding holding out until marriage.
In my entire life I never met a woman who withheld sex for a promise of marriage.

I have, however, met several who used it to extract promises to ..

... take a bath ... brush my teeth ... pick my clothes up off the floor ... and pay the pimp.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#62438 Nov 12, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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... and pay the pimp.
If you used coupons you would never have this problem

“Act Interdimensional ly”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#62439 Nov 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
If you used coupons you would never have this problem
Live and learn

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#62440 Nov 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Oh yeah and bestiality is normal to, a man and his horse can lead a normal life.
Pedophilia is normal to, a little or boy has a rigjt to choose.
Neither horses nor children can consent. That makes all the difference in the world.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#62441 Nov 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Is this what you call normal and average?
Statistics on sexual promiscuity among homosexuals
by Matt Slick
1. Promiscuity
A. 28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners: "Bell and Weinberg reported
evidence of widespread sexual compulsion among homosexual men. 83% of the
homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in
their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with
1,000 or more partners. Bell and Weinberg p 308." ( exodusglobalalliance.org/
ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
B. 79% of homosexual men say over half of sex partners are strangers : "The survey
showed 79% of the respondents saying that over half of their sexual partners were
strangers. Seventy percent said that over half of their sexual partners were people
with whom they had sex only once. Bell and Weinberg pp.308-309."
( exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealt... )
C. Modal range for homosexual sex partners 101-500 : "In their study of the sexual
profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van
de Ven et al. found that "the modal range for number of sexual partners ever [of
homosexuals] was 101500 ." In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had
between 501 and 1000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported
having had more than 1000 lifetime sexual partners. Paul Van de Ven et al., "A
Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men,"
Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354." ( exodusglobalalliance.org/
ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
D. 1978 study, 78% of gay men ad more than 100 partners, 28% more than 1000: "A
far-ranging study of homosexual men published in 1978 revealed that 75 percent of
self-identified, white, gay men admitted to having sex with more than 100 different
males in their lifetime: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed
250- 499; 15 percent claimed 500-999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000
lifetime male sex partners. By 1984, after the AIDS epidemic had taken hold,
homosexual men were reportedly curtailing promiscuity, but not by much. Instead of
more than 6 partners per month in 1982, the average non-monogamous
respondent in San Francisco reported having about 4 partners per month in
1984." ( catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/... )
E. There is an extremely low rate of sexual fidelity among homosexual men as
compared to married heterosexuals. Among married females 85% reported sexual
fidelity. Among married men, 75.5% reported sexual fidelity. Among homosexual
males in their current relationship, 4.5% reported sexual fidelity.(Sources:Laumann,
The Social Organization of Sexuality, 216; McWhirter and Mattison, The Male
Couple: How Relationships Develop (1984): 252-253; Wiederman, "Extramarital
Sex," 170. This is extracted from http://www.frc.org/get.cfm... )
http://carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promisc...
So? There are plenty of heterosexual men that would LOVE to be able to get that many women into bed with them. The only thing stopping them is that they need to get women to say "yes". With gays, there is a feedback loop going where you might have both partners more interested in casual sex and promiscuity.

Women are far less likely to want promiscuity.(There are exceptions.) Heck, there are far too many places in this country where a girl can get raped and still be labeled a slut - even if she was drugged to the point of being unconscious.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#62442 Nov 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
Study Indicates Gays and Lesbians
Prone To Psychological Symptoms and Substance Abuse
--But School Harassment Rates
Not Higher for Gay Males
By Roy Waller
The findings of a study published in the British Journal of Psychiatry (December
2003) suggest higher incidences of illegal drug usage, alcoholism, psychological
problems, and violence in the gay community than in the general population.
"Gay men and lesbians reported more psychological distress than heterosexual
women, despite similar levels of social support and quality of physical health,"
the researchers reported (p. 556).
The controlled, cross-sectional study was conducted in both England and Wales.
No European study in mental health, according to the researchers, has ever
before recruited over a thousand gay and lesbian participants.
Surveying a total of 1,161 men (656 self-identified gay, 505 self-identified
heterosexual) and 1,018 women (430 self-identified as lesbian, 588 self-
identified as straight), the researchers said their main goal was "to compare
psychological status, quality of life and use of mental health by lesbians and gay
men with heterosexual people."
The researchers found that homosexual males and females both tended to score
higher on scales of psychological distress than did their heterosexual
counterparts. Further, they were found to be more likely to have used
recreational drugs and to have inflicted deliberate harm upon themselves. Gays
of both genders were also found to have consulted mental health professionals
more frequently than the straight participants.
Additionally, the researchers found that the lesbian participants were the most
frequent victims of physical intimidation and violence. Lesbians were also
found to be "more likely than heterosexual women to drink excessively."
http://www.narth.org/docs/symptoms.html
That concept of "cause and effect" escapes you, doesn't it...

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