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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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JOEL THUMBS UP

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#60314 Oct 13, 2013
All day, all night, Mary Ann,

Down by the seaside siftin' sand...

ha ha ha

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#60315 Oct 13, 2013
I am going out, shopping, and then to the fab Rooftop Rendezvous in the Taj for an hour or so for a birthday party. Bye.
Voluntarist

United States

#60317 Oct 13, 2013
Liberals in state of shock as they realize free health care was another
Obama fairy tale
PF Louis
Natural News
October 13, 2013
It isn’t from the endless invasions and occupations, Wall Street bailouts, drones, increased gestapo
security measures, NSA or several other corrupt episodes swept into the memory holes of
mainstream media.
Nope. The wake-up call that has many on the other side of the aisle saying “I told you so” is
Obama’s “Affordable Care Act” insurance premium price hikes for those whose private plans are
now more expensive than before.
Already, there have been several reports of tremendous premium hikes from Obama supporters
upon enrolling for Obamacare, even though they haven’t had major health issues or medical care.
They are truly shocked.
A few sample horror stories
The San Francisco Bay Area is a liberal strong-hold. But the San Francisco Chronicle came out
recently with the headline “Health Insurance Shoppers Suffer Sticker Shock.”
One example they cited was SF Bay Area resident 47-year-old Shelley Ross, self employed, who was
looking forward to getting a better deal through Obamacare. After registering, she lamented that
“every plan is going to cost more than what I pay now, and what I pay now is ridiculous.”
Another San Francisco resident, 63-year-old John Lonergan lost his reasonably priced Kaiser
Permanente plan, because it can’t comply to Obamacare mandates. In order to maintain the same
level of coverage with Obamacare that he had with Kaiser, his annual premium cost will increase
by over $3,600.
In nearby San Jose, California, the San Jose Mercury News reported,“Like many other Bay Area
residents who pay for their own medical insurance, they were floored last week when they opened
their bills.”
This paper featured Cindy Vinson’s and Tom Waschura’s sticker shock. Both are Obama supporters.
Vinson’s annual premium bill went up $1,800, and Waschura’s annual premium spiked incredibly
to $10,000 over what he was accustomed to paying.
Cindy Vinson explained that she’s in favor of everyone having coverage, but “[she] didn’t expect to
be the one paying for it personally.” Waschura told the Mercury News,“I really don’t like the
Republican tactics, but at least now I can understand why they are so pissed about this.”
The Christian Science Monitor reported a case where the cost increase of $8900 annually for North
Carolina couple Michael Yount and his wife has them considering going without health insurance.
The Younts need to be alerted about those tax penalties for not complying with their unaffordable
Affordable Care Act coverage, which can be enforced by the IRS with their tyrannical police
powers.
Are there real options or is it catch-22 forever?
San Francisco health insurance agent, Jeff Sher, who ironically does conceptually favor a universal
plan, pointed out that the Affordable Care Act may help those whose incomes are low enough to
warrant subsidies, but most will suffer higher prices from this “horribly complex and ill-designed
system.”
To consider options, it’s wise to drop the foolish left-right political schism meant to keep us arguing
while politicians deceive us. Both sides of the aisle house the same monster that really only wants
to feed itself by catering to the so-called one percent.
So why should people go bankrupt over medical bills? And why must only the most monopolistic,
dangerous and least effective medical system take the spotlight with oncologists making up to a
half-million per year poisoning patients, often making them die faster than cancer can kill them?
Until a single payer-system with minimal bureaucratic complexity and overhead allows individuals
coverage for so-called “alternative” medical practices instead of catering to the Medical Mafia’s
excessive profit monopoly, it will be catch-22 forever.
Sources for this article include:
http://www.shtfplan.com
http://www.weeklystandard.com
http://news.investors.com
http://www.sfgate.com

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#60318 Oct 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, we have daily human sacrifices out in the town square. They are at midnight so as to scare the children and the goyim, but everyone is aware of them.
I had no idea. Should I be worried? I was invited out to the town square tonight by the town elders.

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#60319 Oct 13, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
Liberals in state of shock as they realize free health care was another Obama fairy tale
Strawman argument. Who ever said anything about free health care? Everyone but those below poverty level are expected to pay premiums.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#60320 Oct 13, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
Liberals in state of shock as they realize free health care was another
The debate was over single PAYER vs private exchanges, doofus.

At this point everyone knew which won out. Neither was free. Thats why the loosing system was called single PAYER.

"PAYER". Does that sound like free to you?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#60321 Oct 13, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
I had no idea. Should I be worried? I was invited out to the town square tonight by the town elders.
Just tell them you are "a friend of Joe"

That's our password. You should be ok. For now.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#60322 Oct 13, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
I am going out, shopping, and then to the fab Rooftop Rendezvous in the Taj for an hour or so for a birthday party. Bye.
My hairdresser labels things as "fab" too.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#60324 Oct 13, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
HUGH,
Knowing the unclassy cruff that you are, I am sure that you don't know how to correctly pronounce the French word CROISSANT.
Hugh's PRONUNCIATION of the word CROISSANT: Croys-int or Croys-ant.
CORRECT PRONUNCIATION of the word CROISSANT: croo-aah-son(t)
(smiles)
rabbee: cross-aunt - pepe la phew, is better French than you.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#60325 Oct 13, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Croissants score over bagels.
(smiles)
rabbee: i would be more worried, about who puts the holes in them.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#60326 Oct 13, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: i would be more worried, about who puts the holes in them.
The recipe for the bagel holes is a closely guarded secret.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#60327 Oct 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
The recipe for the bagel holes is a closely guarded secret.
rabbee: that is most likely why my imagination, won't let me eat em with transparency. the only way to be sure, is if i make them myself. that way i at least know, how the dough was circumcised.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#60328 Oct 13, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
Strawman argument. Who ever said anything about free health care? Everyone but those below poverty level are expected to pay premiums.
rabbee: the afa was never about, health care religiously. it was, always about religious control. no different than gun control is not about keeping any one safe. it is all, about control. even the media, is already being controlled. the only reason for any nation spying on it's citizens, is about control.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#60329 Oct 13, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: the afa was never about, health care religiously. it was, always about religious control. no different than gun control is not about keeping any one safe. it is all, about control. even the media, is already being controlled. the only reason for any nation spying on it's citizens, is about control.
couldnt help but notice that Colorado has its own exchange
Voluntarist

United States

#60330 Oct 13, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
Strawman argument. Who ever said anything about free health care? Everyone but those below poverty level are expected to pay premiums.
The white house website , then they took it down.
Obama drones thought that they dont have to pay for anything.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#60331 Oct 13, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
The white house website , then they took it down.
Obama drones thought that they dont have to pay for anything.
Dont be idiotic

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#60332 Oct 13, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
The white house website , then they took it down.
Obama drones thought that they dont have to pay for anything.
because you habitually post idiotic mistruths, I tool the liberty of googling it to see what babble you were referring to

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare...

Yes, you are correct. They were promising FREE OBAMACARE to the hordes.

NOT.
Voluntarist

United States

#60333 Oct 13, 2013
And… it’s gone! The Fed and US could simply CANCEL all $5 trillion of
intragovernmental debt
washingtonsblog.com
Ocotber 13, 2013
As we documented here , Congressman Alan Grayson is correct that the Fed could cancel its own US
national debt holdings of ~$2 trillion. This could begin public justice from how our current system
transfers public assets into 1% private profits: currently conservatively estimated at $30 trillion
held in tax-free offshore accounts, and satirized in South Park’s Emmy Award-winning episode on
our bailing out the big banks with the catchline,“ And it’s gone.”
If one understands the mechanics of canceling $2 trillion in debt, there’s equal wisdom to likewise
cancel all ~$5 trillion of the debt held by Social Security and other intragovernmental holdings as
simple book-keeping because we literally owe this to ourselves.
And in this light, we could enact what is called “ monetary reform ” for the US Treasury to pay the
outstanding ~$12 trillion of debt held by the public as it becomes due with debt-free currency
created by the US government (criminal 1% elements in banking would be identified and their
crime-gained assets seized).
Ending the national debt once and for all, forever, is just one benefit of the several models (and
here) of cost-free government already known, beginning with Benjamin Franklin’s pamphlet on
colonial Pennsylvania operating its government debt-free and without taxes, to Thomas Edison
explaining debt-free money with Henry Ford in a 1921 summer media tour. Debt-free money could
be created to directly pay for public goods and services, and government could be employer of last
resort for infrastructure investment. Because infrastructure creates more economic output than
investment cost, this results in falling prices. So, we can have full-employment, the best
infrastructure we can imagine, and falling costs to consumers.
I teach Advanced Placement (AP) Macroeconomics (more challenging than most college-level
introductory macroeconomic courses), contribute to the ongoing education of ~2,000 AP Economics
teachers on our listserve, and had my published research in monetary reform honored by the
Claremont Colleges’ international conference on monetary reform in 2012.
This is the paper for my AP Macroeconomics students to understand money mechanics (and paying
the national debt), also contributed to our listserve AP teachers. To date, no colleague, student, or
parent has found any factual errors or incomplete information. This article is a shorter, non-
academic, documented explanation of our debt-condition and solutions.
Our condition, and why paying the national debt is our only good option:
Voluntarist

United States

#60334 Oct 13, 2013
1. What we use for money is actually debt, created by private banks . The national debt is
created by Treasury printing pretty pieces of debt instruments, selling them into a system whereby
what is used for money is created debt-free and out-of-nothing by banks. Adding more debt over
time, as these mechanics can only do, will only and always increase the total economic debt. This
“monetary system” guarantees aggregate public debt is perpetual and unpayable, making the 99%
permanent debt-slaves to 1% literal “asset-holes”(documentation here , here , here). The mechanics
and mathematics of only being able to add negative numbers to existing negative numbers is certain
and simple.
2. Official government claims of “required austerity” from “budget crises” are easily refuted.
Government Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports (CAFRs) have literal multiple trillions in
surplus taxpayer assets , as they fraudulently claim deficits “forcing” austerity upon the 99%. For
example, California’s own CAFR proves a ~$16 billion claimed budget deficit is absolutely refuted
by ~$100 billion in liquid surplus funds and ~$500 billion in claimed investments (explanation and
complete documentation here , television interview to explain here , documentation of official lies to
keep this information hidden here ).
3. Again, and importantly, 1%“leadership” in government , banking/finance , and corporate media
lie in omission by keeping obvious solutions secret : including government directly paying for all
public goods and services with debt-free money created by government (and here ). Several models
(and here ) of cost-free government are known, beginning with Benjamin Franklin’s pamphlet on
colonial Pennsylvania operating its government without taxes to Thomas Edison explaining debt-
free money with Henry Ford in a 1921 summer media tour.
As the links above emphasize, we’ll never have these solutions or even the problem clearly
explained until 1% leaders in government, money, and media are arrested for OBVIOUS fraud
(obvious because debt is called “money,” and those with fiduciary responsibility in government to
explain options to end our debt are silent). If no arrests, we will have only more debt, wars, and
lies.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#60335 Oct 13, 2013
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