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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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#59871 Oct 8, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Proof through testimony through first hand witnesses is all the proof I need.
PRAISE the LORD!

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#59872 Oct 8, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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and homosexual activity causes tsunamis
ha ha ha

Anal sex is supposed to unbalance the nerve currents leading to mental distortions since the vital emerging from the physico-vital serves as a bridge to the mental realms...

I doubt this claim because if this had been true then in view of the intimate mind-matter connection the unbalance in the nerve currents and the mental distortions would have manifested as abnormal brain wiring.

Well, more research is needed on this subject.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#59873 Oct 8, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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NO need to answer, obviously I already know the answer.
You don't know the answer supported by the reaction mechanism and calculations.

You don't even know the difference between oxidation state and valence and would not know how to begin where say calculating the oxidation state of S in the transformation of sodium thiosulfate to sodium tetrathionate is concerned.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#59874 Oct 8, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Conciseness and brevity is a skill that goes far in this world.
This is a concept that's useful in the humanities not in math/science where full details supported by math is needed and besides many complex calculations stretch into pages and pages.

Anyway, you won't know all this since your math and science are so poor.

Ok, then.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#59875 Oct 8, 2013
Faith in the medicine and trust in the doctor go a long way in affecting a fast and an effective cure.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#59876 Oct 8, 2013
Typo -

effecting not affecting

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#59877 Oct 8, 2013
Yes, faith in the medicine and trust in the doctor are vital supports in bringing about a fast and an effective cure.

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#59878 Oct 8, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Proof through testimony through first hand witnesses is all the proof I need.
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You can find testimonials to support virtually any psuedo-scientific alternative healing method (including faith healing, crystal healing, etc...). Like Frijoles pointed out the other day, best to keep your testimonials for church. If they really worked, there would be scientific evidence for it (like there is for the ones in the graph I linked to).

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#59879 Oct 8, 2013
If the mind is potent enough and can effectively act on the disordered energy fields of the body then the cure is quick and hardly depends on medicines and doctors.

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#59880 Oct 8, 2013
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#59881 Oct 8, 2013
Good night. Need to rest. Later.
HughBe

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#59882 Oct 8, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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If I recollect (which I do), you started this harangue with a claim that he was influential, as a Rabbi, to ALL Jews. Now we are arguing over how influential he is in Israel, only. Do you realize you are loosing ground?
HughBe---"Yosef wielded influence over ALL Israelis."

ALL is a PRETTY SMALL number of persons. I wonder what number and percentage are left after the ALL is taken away.

Frijoles---If I recollect (which I do), you started this harangue with a claim that he was influential, as a Rabbi, to ALL Jews.

HughBe--- The only way that I could have done such a thing is if I were at your level of intelligence and insanity. On countless occasions I have said that there are many Jews who are NOT into Judaism and so the RELIGIOUS influences of rabbis could NEVER be applicable to them. Note, here I am thinking of Jews who are CHRISTIANS, those who are into other religions and those who are into no gods.

Now, PROVE you LIE above.


Frijoles--- Now we are arguing over how influential he is in Israel, only. Do you realize you are loosing ground?

HughBe--- The thing is you cannot be LOSING your mind as that was achieved in the past.

Anyway, I shall not give you a long time to retract your LIE and failure to do so will make me post my original thoughts and it will not take me long to find them.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#59883 Oct 8, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Not really.
Anyway, take care.
I stand by my words.

In terms of Wisdom, it is the ability to THINK and to use the available knowledge to do, say and THINK the correct or best way.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#59884 Oct 8, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Good night. Need to rest. Later.
How are you coping with this new experience of needing to rest?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#59885 Oct 8, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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You're stupid.
Thanks for noticing, Joel.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#59886 Oct 8, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Over all ISRAELIS. Get it ISRAELIS. Not Jews as a whole. Not American Jews. Not Jews worldwide. ISRAELIS
Please try and get these 2 REPEATED points and respond by answering them.

1. Is there any form of networking between Judaism's Sephardic members in the US and those in Israel?

2. Are you saying that ONE of the GREATEST Jewish sages for the past 100 years has INFLUENCE in the land of Israel ONLY?

PS: It is because Yosef was a nobody outside of Israel why CNN and other American media carried a story of his death, within hours of the event.

Keep believing the BS and you shall FULLY convince yourself.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#59887 Oct 8, 2013
Eric dear, the influence of Yosef outside of Israel was NOT the main or original argument. The focus was the influence that he wielded within Isreal and you and others sought to make it seem that he had very little in Israel itself.

Do you want me to repost an example of such a comment?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#59888 Oct 8, 2013
Eric wrote:
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This statement is incorrect. There are between 1.1 million and 1.5 million Sephardi in Israel. There are 5.75 million Jews in Israel. That's 19%- 26%.
You only get the 50% by adding the Mizrahim.
1. YOU are in no position to correct the news report. YOU failed to provide the make up when you were asked MANY times, in the past.

WHY? Is it because the number of Sephardic Jews in Israel would expose your LIE about their SMALL population and thus the SMALL INFLUENCE that Yosef had in Israel? YES and I KNEW it.

Your BS has been exposed.

2. Once again, note what the ABC report says. Understanding the report is as easy as ABC.
"Sephardic Jews make up roughly HALF of Israel's Jewish population"
Again, "Sephardic Jews make up roughly HALF of Israel's Jewish population"
HughBe

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#59889 Oct 8, 2013
HughBe---"He is considered by his followers – directly, ultra-Orthodox Sephardic public, AND indirectly, the WIDER religious society – as a master sage, or Maran, and the generation’s GREATEST authority on religious law. Hence, his health is no laughing matter."

(The quote above are NOT my words)

Frijoles---What wider society? We already defined the limits of his following. Israeli, sephardic, and religious. Pretty small, considering.
HughBe

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#59890 Oct 8, 2013
Eric,

tell me the about the ROLE of MUNICIPAL rabbis in Israel.

Are they Orthodox?

What impact do they have on Government policies etc?

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