Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#59834 Oct 8, 2013
HughBe wrote:
From the American company ABC site---
"Yosef wielded influence over ALL Israelis."
ALL is a PRETTY SMALL number of persons. I wonder what number and percentage are left after the ALL is taken away.
If I recollect (which I do), you started this harangue with a claim that he was influential, as a Rabbi, to ALL Jews. Now we are arguing over how influential he is in Israel, only. Do you realize you are loosing ground?

“Act Interdimensional ly”

Since: Jan 08

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#59835 Oct 8, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Try clearing the IIT JEE in Math, Physics and Chemistry and then talk to me about intelligence, ok,brainless and effeminate fool?
It has been my honour in my life to work amongst some of the smartest people G-d put on this Earth and I can tell you know with a certainty that intelligent people do not act the way you do.

Very intelligent people are secure in their intellect and don't feel the necessity to denigrate others in order to conquer deep insecurities. Intellectual maturity is considerably more than pretending to know the meaning behind memorized facts or false claims of scholarship.

I can tell you this, people who are desperate to appear intelligent will do as you do. Google some terms, crib some questions off Wikipedia or memorize some obscurity or another in order drop them into conversation. The ultimate goal being, to give the appearance of learning to obscure their lack of intelligence. The only problem is, that kind of desperation is obvious to everyone and only makes them appear less intelligent.

So, claim you invented the iPod, discovered extra spacial dimensions and possess all the secrets of the Universe -- the rest of us are quite amused by your claims.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#59836 Oct 8, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
BTW HUGH,
I would like you to define the word wisdom in detail and tell me how wisdom differs from the term intelligent.
Give me at least 2 original teachings from the TANACH and the NT that in your opinion are profoundly wise.
I'll do a quick analysis of the lines from the TANACH and the NT and prove to you using logic and supporting evidence whether the teachings are original and wise or plagiarized bull shit.
PS - I have not discovered a single teaching in either the TANACH or in the NT that's original or profound.
Anyway, reply to my question, if possible.
Joel---I would like you to define the word wisdom in detail and tell me how wisdom differs from the term intelligent.

Hugh--- Details are beyond the scope of this forum :D

In terms of intelligence, I shall give a definitions based on how the word is used. For wisdom I shall give my own definition.

Intelligence is the ability to learn and more so it is a reflection of how much knowledge one has. Take IQ tests, it is true to say that some require you to THINK but to a large extent they are a test of KNOWLEDGE. You either KNOW or you do NOT know.

So, those who KNOW more will get a higher score than those who KNOW less. Understand, the fact that Tom currently knows more than Dick does not mean that if Dick applied himself he could not know more than Tom.

Get it?

In terms of Wisdom, it is the ability to THINK and to use the available knowledge to do, say and THINK the correct or best way.

Now dear, please study these words of wisdom.

Much love, MON.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

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#59837 Oct 8, 2013
Eric wrote:
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You want everyone to go naked.
Believe me, you don't WANT to see most people naked. You don't even want to see most people in spandex. Bulky clothing was man's greatest invention.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

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#59838 Oct 8, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Still, I find it amazing. What a waste of human tissue.
Ultimately, human tissue is never a waste -- we can use it to make Soylent Burgers.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#59839 Oct 8, 2013
Bi girls. Too busy for time wasting. I shall if possible check back in a few hours.

Don't cry. I shall miss U too.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#59840 Oct 8, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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Believe me, you don't WANT to see most people naked. You don't even want to see most people in spandex. Bulky clothing was man's greatest invention.
Latest trend here is for joggers to wear spandex. Why? Why I ask?

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#59841 Oct 8, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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Believe me, you don't WANT to see most people naked. You don't even want to see most people in spandex. Bulky clothing was man's greatest invention.
In that case, I recommend staying away from Lululemon Yoga pants...

http://nypost.com/2013/10/01/lululemons-sheer...

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#59842 Oct 8, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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Ultimately, human tissue is never a waste -- we can use it to make Soylent Burgers.
Thats one of my favorite movies!

People movers, death centers, etc etc

“Act Interdimensional ly”

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#59843 Oct 8, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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In that case, I recommend staying away from Lululemon Yoga pants...
http://nypost.com/2013/10/01/lululemons-sheer...
I don't do yoga. I run. Which will ultimately allow me to survive the future zombie apocalypse.
Voluntarist

United States

#59844 Oct 8, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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I don't do yoga. I run. Which will ultimately allow me to survive the future zombie apocalypse.
Which will ultimately kill you faster because you lose more nutrition through extreme physical exertion.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#59845 Oct 8, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Intelligence is the ability to learn and more so it is a reflection of how much knowledge one has.
A most pathetic definition of intelligence.

Expected.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#59846 Oct 8, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Take IQ tests, it is true to say that some require you to THINK but to a large extent they are a test of KNOWLEDGE. You either KNOW or you do NOT know.
Hardly any thinking required in an IQ test. It's based working out questions based on set patterns. The more you familiarize yourself with the pattern of an IQ test and the more you practice the better will be your score. Besides, the questions are mostly of a superficial kind.
Voluntarist

United States

#59847 Oct 8, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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There was a year plus bipartisan discussion of ACA before it was voted on. I dont think anyone seriously proposed a radical restructuring of the system.
Interestingly enough, the CEO of yours and my local hospital HAS advocated for that. Moving away from pay for service too - not sure what he has in mind.
If you want to eliminate govt involvement you would have to eliminate medicare, medicaid and the rest of the safety net. I think there needs to be a balance, but I agree, the insurance companies are a lot of the problem.
How does your friend get a $1200 premium? I had to try pretty hard on the CT site to get the premium up that high. And I know it doesnt matter to you (hopefully), but one bought of cancer would make $20,000/yr of premiums seem like a bargain. Thats why its called insurance.
Family of 4.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#59848 Oct 8, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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In terms of Wisdom, it is the ability to THINK and to use the available knowledge to do, say and THINK the correct or best way.
Not really.

Anyway, take care.
Voluntarist

United States

#59849 Oct 8, 2013
Eric wrote:
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You want everyone to go naked. I know I couldn't afford a major medical disaster. What of those who can't even afford that? Will healthcare be reserved for the very wealthy?
What would happen if you couldn't buy a brand new Nissan 350z
Someone will sell you a Nissan versa.

There is growing popularity in going to foreign nations to get operations for 10 cents on the dollar.
That is the free market at work!

Talk about chicken little, you fit the description!
Voluntarist

United States

#59850 Oct 8, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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You have to remember, that n his deluded mind, most diseases, including cancer, can be treated naturally - hence, no need for expensive medical treatments (what with all that expensive R&D and safety measures). It's a major flaw in his logic.
You brain is flawed if you wouldn't try the naturopathic way first because the track record for healing is better than traditional medicine.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#59851 Oct 8, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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try answering my question for once, instead of being pompous
not impressed
I don't wish to go into details and mechanisms, so please excuse me.

I am not surprised that you goofed up that ordinary bit of chemistry on citrate and citric acid considering your weak foundation in math and science.

As for your question on arsenic, well, once again I don't wish to explain since it'll take me into explanation about the 4 quantum numbers - n, l, m and s, crystal field splitting energy, valence bond theory and then I'll have to explain the nuances of oxidation state which you think you know but you don't - for instance, if I ask you to find the oxidation state of S in the transformation of sodium thiosulfate to sodium tetrathionate in acidic medium showing all the working steps you will not know how to begin. And, if I ask you to contrast that with valence, milliequivalents, moles and ppm you won't know how to proceed.

So, well, I will drop the topic and forget about it for now.

Maybe some other time.

But, I am really not interested.

When I was preparing for the IIT JEE in Grades 9 to 12, I always referred to advanced Chemistry reference books like Morrison and Boyd, Bruce Mahan, Cotton, Sareen and Sareen,- these books are mainly used by university students but students wishing to crack the IIT JEE have to compulsorily refer to these books in detail.

In-depth knowledge of chem or math will hardly take you deep into the nature of the reality nor will it make one a better person.

Ok, then, best regards.
Eric

Roselle, IL

#59852 Oct 8, 2013
HughBe wrote:
From the American company ABC site---
"Yosef wielded influence over ALL Israelis."
ALL is a PRETTY SMALL number of persons. I wonder what number and percentage are left after the ALL is taken away.
Over all ISRAELIS. Get it ISRAELIS. Not Jews as a whole. Not American Jews. Not Jews worldwide. ISRAELIS

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#59853 Oct 8, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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You brain is flawed if you wouldn't try the naturopathic way first because the track record for healing is better than traditional medicine.
Naturopathy has its place. Alternative medicine has its place. I regularly see a body worker (LMT) who specializes in energy work, mainly cranial sacral. I also receive accupuncture a few times a year. But the key is that this is complementary to regular medicine. To do only alternative is nuts, and potentially harmful.

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