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Sep 25, 2013
 
VARIOUS SPACE-TIMES:

Dr Tom Campbell is pushing a dualism that makes him separate information field from space-time but the fact is that both information and space-time are inherent in conscious energy field. The difference is that there exists various strata of information with each stratum of information having its own attributes and its individual spatio-temporal dimensions. Mind has its own mental spatio-temporal dimension that's an aspect of conscious-energy field vibrating at a rate that brings the mental field with its attendant attributes of thought, cognition, analysis and recall into manifestation and similarly in a gross physical sense the physical constants like c, g, e etc are innate bits of information driving the physical forces vibrating at a frequency that's lower than the mental field with the physical reality being an intrinsic part of the physical spatio-temporal matrix. Every spatio-temporal dimension is simply one vibration in the manifested field of conscious energy.

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The objective aspect of the reality is measurable but the subjective, the transcendent and the absolute are experiential with visible effects in the objective provided they interact with the objective.

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0 and 1 are the simplest bits of information, says Dr Campbell. Dearest Joel says that infinity as the totality is the substratum.

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Sep 25, 2013
 
Infinity - Infinity = Infinity.
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Sep 25, 2013
 
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
QUESTION:
From where did the white-skinned European Jews come from when it's repeatedly said in the Hebrew Bible that the ancient Hebrews were black/dark skinned?
LMAO
rabbee: i would like for you to find that, mentioned anywhere in TheTorah. nor can you understand, the word 'multitude'. nor was Avraham egyptian or african, and neither was Yeetzak or Yaachov.
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Sep 25, 2013
 
Adam 36 wrote:
Modern Humans Came Out of Africa, "Definitive" Study Says
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/...
rabbee: are you so sure, they did not come from america? no different this time, than the last two Torot times with this exact same grandma. from always TheG-D, of totally impossible in the only possibility in TheTorah Forever.

apparently it is not that hard to dupe you all, into not being here in TheTorah from ELOHEEM again.
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Sep 25, 2013
 
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Looks like someone's been frequenting David Duke's and others' anti-semitic websites...
Hughe - "'Gentiles are wholly EVIL', the book says.'They spiritually POLLUTE the world, and even LOOKING at their faces is harmful.'"
A quick google search of the quote Hugh provided brings up multiple search results for David Duke (BTW - Hugh, proper protocol dictates that you cite your sources when quoting from them, lest you be known as a dishonest plagiarizer.)
"David Ernest Duke (born July 1, 1950) is an American White nationalist, writer, right-wing politician, and a former Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan"
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"...He opposes what he considers to be Jewish control of the Federal Reserve Bank, the federal government and the media."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke
1. Are YOU calling all of my sites anti-semitic sites? The truth is I don't believe that I got the info for point 1 from David D.

I am very careful when I quote because I KNOW the type of responses that I will get. I shall try to find where I got the info for point 1. That aside is the information a LIE. That is the KEY.

Tell me that it is a LIE. Tell me that the CLAIMS are FRAUDS.

2. Here are some quotes from the TIMES of Israel. Perhaps it is an anti-semitic site but God knows that I am ignorant of such a thing. I find the name, TIMES of ISRAEL to be instructive.

Rabbi--Ovadia Yosef’s words follow. Tell me about him. Who is he?

A. Goyim [non-Jews] were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”

B.“Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat.” From Haaretz

C. On Hurricane Katrina:

“He (Bush) perpetrated the expulsion (of Jews from Gaza). Now everyone is mad at him. This is his punishment for what he did to Gush Katif, and everyone else who did as he told them, their time will come, too,”
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Sep 25, 2013
 
Cunti,

SOURCE: JEWISH i.e. Haaretz

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/edi...

Editorial calling for DEATH CAMPS for ‘Amalekites’ raises storm among religious

A POPULAR leaflet circulated IN religious Zionist SYNAGOGUES recently included an article that discussed DEATH CAMPS for "Amalekites."

"It would be interesting to know whether they will leave concentrating the Amalekites into death camps to others or perhaps decide that wiping out Amalek is no longer relevant," the "Ma'ayanei Hayeshua" leaflet said in an editorial. The "they" in question referred to MODERATE religious Zionist RABBIS.

The Amalekites were a biblical nation whom the Bible commands the Jews to utterly destroy..... the term is sometimes USED to describe ANYONE deemed an irreconcilable enemy of the Jews.

The editorial, published FOUR weeks ago, raised a furor in the religious Zionist community. It was intended as part of the community's ongoing debate over a letter signed by DOZENS of religious Zionist RABBIS urging Jews NOT TO RENT or SELL apartments to non-Jews.
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Sep 25, 2013
 
Cunti and Adam

"AG reluctant to prosecute 'King's Torah' authors
Attorney General unlikely to indict RABBIS who penned controversial book, which claims that in certain situations IT IS PERMISSIBLE to KILL non-Jews"

Judaism is truly a RELIGION that is a POISON.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-423...
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Sep 25, 2013
 
The fellow in post 59044 is "Israeli Sephardic LEADER Rabbi Ovadia Yosef"
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Sep 25, 2013
 
HughBe wrote:
Cunti and Adam
"AG reluctant to prosecute 'King's Torah' authors
Attorney General unlikely to indict RABBIS who penned controversial book, which claims that in certain situations IT IS PERMISSIBLE to KILL non-Jews"
Judaism is truly a RELIGION that is a POISON.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-423...
rabbee: only if they kill themselves first, for not being true to G-D here in TheTorah Happening. the holocaust is jews, committing suicide again for not being true to ELOHEEM.
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""Municipal rabbis are public servants funded by the public, and the moment they speak out like the worst Kahanists, they no longer have a place in public service," he said. "We are witnessing a spreading EPIDEMIC of RACISM and xenophobia, and we should act firmly."

Epidemic =extremely prevalent; WIDESPREAD.

Racism= hatred of other races

xenophobia= HATRED of foreigners

I rest my case.
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The scriptures say, Moses wrote the law.
"And Moses wrote this law, and delivered it unto the priests the sons of Levi, which bare the ark of the covenant of the Lord, and unto all the elders of Israel."
That "scripture" itself was written many centuries after Moses!!

Consider how Moses would have written those five opening books of Bible on a stone tablet?

We should also use our God given brain from time to time.

What Moses wrote down was Main Commandments received from YHWH. Ten commandments and some more basic laws.

All those genealogical tables were handiwork of later generation, plus those hundreds of rules about sacrifices.

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LIMITATIONS OF PSI RESEARCH:

Psi experts like Dr Dean Radin and others simply measure the physical manifestation of an event like say teleplay that has far deeper causes than its manifestation in matter. These deeper causes cannot be measured or studied by physico-chemical or inferential methods. It's only when the deeper cause manifests its effects in the physical or if its working nears the physical dimension do certain physical signals get expressed that're subsequently measured by physical measuring instruments or become visible to any or all of the 5 senses. The experience itself stands high above the mechanism of gross matter.

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Sep 26, 2013
 
HUGH,

You're a RABID HOMOPHOBE.

I'd asked you a question on ANAL SEX a couple of days ago that you've failed to answer.

I repeat the question - Since you think that homosexuality is wrong on the basis of biblical teachings, tell me in what way is anal sex damaging to both men participating in the sexual act?

Give the logic and/or the supporting evidence.

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IGNORANT QUESTIONS BY DEAN RADIN:

RADIN'S LATEST BOOK - SUPERNORMAL

Supernormal asks a simple question: Was Buddha just a nice guy? Did Buddha’s teachings thrive because he was more attractive or charismatic than most, or because he was a great teacher and a tireless advocate of the poor? Or— and here’s the core question we’ll explore in detail— was it also because he was an enlightened being with profound insights into the nature of Reality, and because he possessed supernormal abilities? We might ask the same questions about Jesus, Moses, Mohammed, Milarepa, or a host of other historically prominent figures associated with special illumination, wisdom, or grace. Did these people just sport great tans and know how to work a crowd, or did they understand something genuinely deep about the human condition, and our capacities, that are not yet within the purview of science?

by Dean Radin, Chief Scientist, Institute of Noetic Sciences

COMMENTS: Dr Radin, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. With the little visual, electrical and/or chemical evidence that you've gained about the gross physical objectivization of the subjective side of existence, you must not make sweeping generalizations about profound states of being like "enlightenment" nor must you confuse sorcerers and half-baked mystics with the higher yogis.

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HughBe wrote:
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1. Are YOU calling all of my sites anti-semitic sites? The truth is I don't believe that I got the info for point 1 from David D.
I am very careful when I quote because I KNOW the type of responses that I will get. I shall try to find where I got the info for point 1. That aside is the information a LIE. That is the KEY.
Tell me that it is a LIE. Tell me that the CLAIMS are FRAUDS.
2. Here are some quotes from the TIMES of Israel. Perhaps it is an anti-semitic site but God knows that I am ignorant of such a thing. I find the name, TIMES of ISRAEL to be instructive.
Rabbi--Ovadia Yosef’s words follow. Tell me about him. Who is he?
A. Goyim [non-Jews] were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”
B.“Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat.” From Haaretz
C. On Hurricane Katrina:
“He (Bush) perpetrated the expulsion (of Jews from Gaza). Now everyone is mad at him. This is his punishment for what he did to Gush Katif, and everyone else who did as he told them, their time will come, too,”
Nutty extremists exist in every religion. YOU, above all, should understand that.

And let's not forget extreme behavior by Christians that was once considered acceptable....

- Crusades against Muslims, PAgans, Heretics, etc...
- Pogroms against Jews
- Spanish Inquisition
- etc,...

Every religion has blood on their hands, yours included.
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You know Hugh has gone over the deep end when Joel tells him to tone it down.

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Rabbi--Ovadia Yosef’s words follow. Tell me about him. Who is he?
According to his description on wiki, he sounds like another fruitcase, akin to the Christian Pat Robertson (and many like him), that make similarly nutty claims.

BTW - regarding his comments about gentiles...

The American Jewish Committee condemned Yosef's remarks, stating that "Rabbi Yosef’s remarks – suggesting outrageously that Jewish scripture asserts non-Jews exist to serve Jews – are abhorrent and an offense to human dignity and human equality [...] Judaism first taught the world that all individuals are created in the divine image, which helped form the basis of our moral code. A rabbi should be the first, not the last, to reflect that bedrock teaching of our tradition." [40] The remark was also condemned by the Anti-Defamation League.[41]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovadia_Yosef#Rem...

You, Hugh, should know that as an Atheist, I'm no fan of ANY religion. However, fair is fair and you should know better than to judge an entire religion based on the ramblings of a few loud-mouthed extremists. Show me that the majority of ALL Rabbis believe his words, then we have something to talk about.

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Sep 26, 2013
 
MUQ wrote:
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That "scripture" itself was written many centuries after Moses!!
Consider how Moses would have written those five opening books of Bible on a stone tablet?
We should also use our God given brain from time to time.
What Moses wrote down was Main Commandments received from YHWH. Ten commandments and some more basic laws.
All those genealogical tables were handiwork of later generation, plus those hundreds of rules about sacrifices.
Yes, let's use our God given brains...

Tell me. Where exactly can I find the original stone tablets? If they actually existed, dictated by an Omnipotent god and scribed by one of his most famous prophets, then surely God would have preserved them, no? Otherwise, how can we be sure of the source and authenticity of these alleged commandments?

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