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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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#57643 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Prima facie evidence, Matthew, Mark, John are JEWISH names. Paul was a former PHARISEE of the tribe of Benjamin.
Paul's words "I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin."
Give me proof of the authors of the Tanach.
Well no, Mark is a Latin name. And for your information also Luke is.

Of the four only Matthew and John have hebrew names.

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#57644 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Try god HughBe. Say it with respect as well.
Later.
But how many gods that idiot needs to have? He already has plenty of rabbis as gods, isn't it?!...

Adam 36

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#57645 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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It is far easier to prove that the writers of the NT were Jews than to prove that Moses wrote the Torah.
Are there any NT texts written in Hebrew?
Frijoles

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#57646 Sep 3, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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But how many gods that idiot needs to have? He already has plenty of rabbis as gods, isn't it?!...
Speaking of idiots, have you discovered the New World yet?
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#57647 Sep 3, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Faith is blind and baseless and constitutes the mainstay of superstitious idiots, whereas certitude based on objective proof and/or subjective experiences with externalized manifestation are/is aimed at rational individuals and gifted intuitionalists.
rabbee: faith is not nearly as blind, or as baseless as you say. when some of it is based, on the testimony of others and or oneself experiences. where the faith comes into play, is with regard as to whether the confidence in persons involved as either true or false.
there are many witnesses to the return, of Adam here in TheStory. even if you all reject, you are here in TheStory from G-D again. indicating that you all have no faith, in TheG-D of Only TheTorah. so therefor indicating your faith, must be somewhere else.
everyone has the same amount of faith, whether it is concentrated in one direction, or diversely divided. whereas diversely divided faiths, has the tendency to be naturally weaker than any concentrated faith. but generally concentrated faith, has little supporting or fabricated evidence.
but like me, i do not need faith to know of the existence of TheG-D WHO has visited me. so my faith is based on the fact, that THIS G-D of TheTorah, shall walk and talk Like TheG-D of Only TheTorah.
so i believe THIS G-D, who calls me adam, who came to tell me about the woman chaooah. as i later found out, this story is exactly the same as in TheTorah. with THIS SAME G-D, WHO placed adam and his mate in charge the last time. has been and is doing, it all again. in this world that never takes the time, to really notice This Story we are all here in, from TheG-D of Only TheTorah is in TheHappening.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57648 Sep 3, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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The NT was written by anonymous authors well after the Jewish Christians died.
Greetings Adam, please supply your proof for your words.

In giving your evidence please reconcile them to the following---

1. "Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, TO all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons"

2. "The salutation of Paul with mine own hand, which is the token in every epistle: so I WRITE"

3. "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, TO the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting"

Do the words indicate the writers?

Do you have any more revelations?

You sound like a Judahite, are you?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57649 Sep 3, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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Psalm 146:3
Psalm 146:3 "Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help"

Please explain it for me, Adam.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57650 Sep 3, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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But how many gods that idiot needs to have? He already has plenty of rabbis as gods, isn't it?!...
It seems the more the merrier.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57651 Sep 3, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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Are there any NT texts written in Hebrew?
Not to my knowledge.Why do you ask?

Do you want to study it in Hebrew?

Adam 36

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#57652 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Greetings Adam, please supply your proof for your words.
There is no proof any of the NT were written contemporaneously. If you have it, I'd like to see it.

Adam 36

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#57653 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Psalm 146:3 "Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help"
Please explain it for me, Adam.
The last word is salvation.

Jesus claimed to be the Son of Man. Right?

Adam 36

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#57654 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Not to my knowledge.Why do you ask?
Do you want to study it in Hebrew?
If the early Christians were Jews, wouldn't they have written in Hebrew to convince the Jews of the messiah?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57655 Sep 3, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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There is no proof any of the NT were written contemporaneously. If you have it, I'd like to see it.
HughBe--- Don't stray, FOCUS. You said, "The NT was written by anonymous authors well after the Jewish Christians died."

YOU were asked to PROVE your "ANONYMOUS authors" and "after the JEWISH Christians died". YOU have FAILED to do so.

Now you have introduced CONTEMPORARY.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#57656 Sep 3, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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The NT was written by anonymous authors well after the Jewish Christians died.
Who wrote the NT hardly matters as long as the info is authentic.

Intelligent people don't usually concern themselves with personalities but are more interested in principles.

I am not interested in the historicity of a personality especially when there exists few or no leads but am more concerned with the teachings/practices/corroborat ion.

Knowledge is impersonal - X, Y and Z can discover the same truth of nature or of being without knowing anything about the research/results arrived at by the others.

I'll go to the extent of stating that even if the teachings of the NT authored by unknown people do not reflect the true words of Jesus it does not matter as long as the teachings are deep, logical and profound and can be verified via experiment or experience.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57657 Sep 3, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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The last word is salvation.
Jesus claimed to be the Son of Man. Right?
I did NOT ask you what the last word is. YOU were asked to explain the text. After you have done so I shall give you a YES or NO to your new question.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57658 Sep 3, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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If the early Christians were Jews, wouldn't they have written in Hebrew to convince the Jews of the messiah?
Let me tell you a secret, many Jews in the time of Jesus spoke Greek.

Have you every heard of the word, Hellenism? Explain it.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#57659 Sep 3, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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If the early Christians were Jews, wouldn't they have written in Hebrew to convince the Jews of the messiah?
What does language have to do with a teaching?

Nothing, nothing at all.

Language is superfluous, content is everything.

Did the Hebrews reject the teachings that their patriarchs borrowed from the pre-Hebrew Babylonian cultures? Why, even the Hebrew G-d El is plagiarized from earlier or from co-existent cultures.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57660 Sep 3, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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If the early Christians were Jews, wouldn't they have written in Hebrew to convince the Jews of the messiah?
Adam, you have FAILED to answer yet another question.

Here it is again, Do you want to study it(NT) in Hebrew?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57661 Sep 3, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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There is no proof any of the NT were written contemporaneously. If you have it, I'd like to see it.
Please answer the following---

Do the words indicate the writers?

Do you have any more revelations?

You sound like a Judahite, are you?

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#57662 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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It seems the more the merrier.
Idiot,

Are you in your proper senses or are you high after drinking the blood of your slain lord, Jesus?

You're trivializing a serious matter that has marred history with barbarism of the worst kind which continues till the present times.

The more the number of competing Gods, the more the struggle, the more the fights and the more the jealousy - the Tanakh is proof of this savagery of El fiercely competing with co-existent Gods for supremacy with this supraphysical strife reflected on earth among the human followers of the various Gods that gave rise to recurring genocides, bloodshed, iconoclasm, hatred, slavery, human sacrifices, pillage and other ills.

Think a little before you post.

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