Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

I guess I can't judge them ... I was once, very shortly, a dues paying member of "Mormons for Mohammed".

Voluntarist wrote:

FBI Planned to Kill Occupy Leaders
According to journalist David Lindorff, the FBI planned to assassinate
the leaders of the now moribund Occupy movement “via suppressed
sniper rifles.”
Lindorff cites a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request filed by the
Washington, DC-based Partnership for Civil Justice Fund.
The redacted document obtained from the FBI in Houston states:
An identified [DELETED] as of October planned to engage in sniper
attacks against protestors (sic) in Houston, Texas if deemed
necessary. An identified [DELETED] had received intelligence that
indicated the protesters in New York and Seattle planned similar
protests in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and Austin, Texas.
[DELETED] planned to gather intelligence against the leaders of
the protest groups and obtain photographs, then formulate a plan
to kill the leadership via suppressed sniper rifles.
The FBI confirmed that the document is legitimate.
For the astute student of history – real history, not the massaged
version proffered by the ruling elite – news of an FBI plot to murder
political activists does not come as a surprise.
Recent history provides numerous examples, most notably during the
1960s and 1970s when the FBI’s COINTELPRO was in full swing.
http://www.infowars.com/fbi-planned-to-kill-o...

Lay off the Alex Jones

If you read the ACTUAL piece by Lindorff, its not the FBI that is planning the assassination.

http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/06/27/fbi-document...

Rather it is being suggested that the FBI ignored the other outside group who was planning this. This is basically the same stuff as the Whitey Bulger hitman gone wild scandal.

Not that it makes it right. But as usual you mangle your facts to make it a conspiracy.

Rick Moss wrote:

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Why suppressed? Even with suppression, a Remington 700 in .308 (the preferred domestic sniper rifle for law enforcement) is a pretty noisy weapon. It certainly wouldn't be clandestine kill as a 2800 ft-pound piece of jacketed lead leaves a pretty messy corpse.

Does the FBI have a plan to blame the deaths on a virus that causes spontaneous head explosions?

None of this needed. We have fluoridation.

Voluntarist wrote:

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batty bwoy

They say once you have had Jamaican, you never go back. Is this true?

Rick Moss wrote:

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I once dated a 7th Day Adventist. That is one crazy, mixed-up bunch o folks. They're like a prototype for Jews for Jeebus.

I have known a few - unlike J4J they tend not to be pushy. And they have to be mixed up - they are trying to make sense out of the English. The most interesting variant is a neighbor of mine who doesnt believe in celebrating ANY holidays. Needless to say, we get along fine. Its like living near to an atheist. No tacky Xmas decorations.

Frijoles wrote:

<quoted text>I have known a few - unlike J4J they tend not to be pushy. And they have to be mixed up - they are trying to make sense out of the English. The most interesting variant is a neighbor of mine who doesnt believe in celebrating ANY holidays. Needless to say, we get along fine. Its like living near to an atheist. No tacky Xmas decorations.

A life-sized replica of the Nativity made entirely out of macaroni and bits of tin foil is tacky?!

Rick Moss wrote:

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A life-sized replica of the Nativity made entirely out of macaroni and bits of tin foil is tacky?!

Thats because its REALLY hard to get a hold of enough Popsicle sticks.

Are Popsicle sticks still made out of wood? I'll bet Earth First is up in arms about that.

Rick Moss wrote:

Are Popsicle sticks still made out of wood? I'll bet Earth First is up in arms about that.

http://www.amazon.com/Popsicle-Sticks-Box-of-...

They are recyclable I guess. I bet there are all types of food safety concerns now though. Splinters, dyes, etc...

Rick Moss wrote:

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Why suppressed? Even with suppression, a Remington 700 in .308 (the preferred domestic sniper rifle for law enforcement) is a pretty noisy weapon. It certainly wouldn't be clandestine kill as a 2800 ft-pound piece of jacketed lead leaves a pretty messy corpse.
Does the FBI have a plan to blame the deaths on a virus that causes spontaneous head explosions?

Why not? Certain members of the population believe in magic bullets.

A man gets put on trial for writing in chalk on the public sidewalk.
A child gets expelled for drawing a picture of a gun.

Rick Moss wrote:

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I once dated a 7th Day Adventist. That is one crazy, mixed-up bunch o folks. They're like a prototype for Jews for Jeebus.

It helps explain Hugh's strange behavior.

Frijoles wrote:

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I have known a few - unlike J4J they tend not to be pushy. And they have to be mixed up - they are trying to make sense out of the English. The most interesting variant is a neighbor of mine who doesnt believe in celebrating ANY holidays. Needless to say, we get along fine. Its like living near to an atheist. No tacky Xmas decorations.

Hey. Some of us Atheists actually like tacky Christmas decorations, provided it's on private property, not public.

Frijoles why aren't ou upset? I thought you were an American? You would think people would be outraged that the government would plan such an murder on us soil or at the very least let it happen, from your article;
Paul Kennedy, the National Lawyers Guild attorney in Houston who
represented a number of Occupy Houston activists arrested during the
protests, had not heard of the sniper plot, but said,“I find it hard to
believe that such information would have been known to the FBI and
that we would not have been told about it.” He then added darkly,“If
it had been some right-wing group plotting such an action,
something would have been done. But if it is something law
enforcement was planning, then nothing would have been done. It
might seem hard to believe that a law enforcement agency would do
such a thing, but I wouldn’t put it past them.”
He adds,“The use of the phrase ‘if deemed necessary,’ sounds like it
was some kind of official organization that was doing the planning.”
In other words, the “identified [DELETED” mentioned in the Houston
FBI document may have been some other agency with jurisdiction in
the area, which was calculatedly making plans to kill Occupy
activists.

Kennedy knows first-hand the extent to which combined federal-
state-local law enforcement forces in Houston were focused on
disrupting and breaking up the Occupy action in that city. He
represented seven people who were charged with felonies for a protest
that attempted to block the operation of Houston’s port facility. That
case fell apart when in the course of discovery, the prosecution
disclosed that the Occupiers had been infiltrated by three undercover
officers from the Austin Police department
, who came up with the idea of using a device called a “sleeping
dragon”-- actually chains inside of PVC pipe -- which are devilishly
hard to cut through, for chaining protesters together blocking port
access. The police provocateurs, Kennedy says, actually purchased
the materials and constructed the “criminal instruments” themselves,
supplying them to the protesters. As a result of this discovery, the
judge tossed out the felony charges.

Frijoles wrote:

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Thats because its REALLY hard to get a hold of enough Popsicle sticks.

I never liked ice-cream on Popsicle sticks. For some reason, bare wood gives me the chills - likes nails on a chalkboard.

BTW - are you planning on seeing the fireworks tonight?

Cult of Reason wrote:

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It helps explain Hugh's strange behavior.

That and his inner aspirations to be a drag queen.

Cult of Reason wrote:

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Hey. Some of us Atheists actually like tacky Christmas decorations, provided it's on private property, not public.

I am fine with it as long it doesnt light up the entire block, and as long as its down by March, or even April.

Cult of Reason wrote:

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I never liked ice-cream on Popsicle sticks. For some reason, bare wood gives me the chills - likes nails on a chalkboard.
BTW - are you planning on seeing the fireworks tonight?

Nah, bedtime is 9 pm as usual. Not that I or anyone in my house can sleep through it.

This year hasnt been so bad. Normally we stay up late for two weeks straight trying to figure out which are fireworks and which are bullets.(Turns out this is a common problem in many parts of the US as well.)

Sniper action by law enforcement officials in Texas would not be
anything new. Last October, a border patrol officer with the Texas
Department of Public Safety, riding in a helicopter, used a sniper rifle
to fire at a fast-moving pickup truck carrying nine illegal immigrants
into the state from Mexico, killing two and wounding a third, and
causing the vehicle to crash and overturn. It turns out that Border
Patrol agents, like a number of Texas law enforcement organizations,
had been receiving special sniper training from a Dallas-based
mercenary-for-hire organization called Craft International LLC. It
seems likely that Houston Police have also received such training,
possibly from Craft, which has a contract for such law-enforcement
training funded by the US Department of Homeland Security.
Efforts to obtain comment from Craft International have been
unsuccessful, but the company’s website features photos of Craft
instructors training law enforcement officers in sniper rifle use
(the company was founded in 2009 by Chris Kyle, a celebrated Army
sniper who last year was slain by a combat veteran he had
accompanied to a shooting range). A number of men wearing Craft-
issued clothing and gear, and bearing the company’s distinctive skull
logo, were spotted around the finish line of the April Boston
Marathon, both before and after the bombing. Some were wearing
large black backpacks with markings resembling what was seen on an
exploded backpack image released by the FBI.(For more on the
backpacks that allegedly contained the bombs, see this piece we did
in May.)

Cult of Reason wrote:

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I never liked ice-cream on Popsicle sticks...

What is you? A commie?!