Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

There are 71943 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 21, 2008, titled Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel. In it, Newsday reports that:

Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#54813 Jun 12, 2013
former res wrote:
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Breach of contract is not a crime.
rabbee: but breach of contract, is covered by civil law.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#54814 Jun 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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I was actually saying the opposite, it cant be trusted.
The author was claiming that Snowden breached an agreement that he had with the government, ironically he was leaking information that pointed to the government breaching an agreement that it had with the people.
Bad bad boy look at him while we violate you.
rabbee: well you know, big brother has been doing this, since even before orwell's 1984 prediction. and very few people became aware of it, in 1984. and people were so acclimatized to it, they did not even pay any attention. until the fashion police or what ever, arrived at your front door. where even if you changed your fashions or habits, big brother became suspicious.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#54815 Jun 12, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Government is both an abstraction and a concrete fact.
agreed
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#54816 Jun 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Actually Frijoles relies partially on government contracts so I believe that he can not have a fair and impartial opinion.
rabbee: well yes he could be, unless it could be detrimental to his receiving government pay checks. if you receive any government pay check, you either do exactly as they say, or you do not work for them any more. and may find it curiously difficult, to even get a job anywhere else.

i know people, who tried to report wrong doings within the system. but they are no longer, in the system.

what would you do, if you walked into a room, where security personal were about to shoot someone? knowing this was the result, of their reporting an incident within the system.

would you try to use the same system, to try and report this wrong doing? it's kind of like watching, muslims lop off someones head, for reporting their wrong doings. which is also not my idea, of a retirement option.

it's like the murderer, confessing to a psychiatrist. about all the people he has killed, for knowing to much. and now the psychiatrist, realizes he knows just too much.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#54817 Jun 12, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Brain-dead fanatic,
Morals are an innate factor of the human consciousness. Once the mind grade of the human consciousness gets activated the mind intuitively progressively begins discriminating between right and wrong. The greater is the manifestation of the mental consciousness in man, the more conscientious and intellectual he is and if his emotional instincts are refined enough and do not pull the mind down into its petty world of jealousy, rage, possessiveness, hatred and sensualism, then the man innately knows when to step back and when to go forward where action and reaction forces are concerned. Everything depends on how evolved the mind is and how regenerate the emotions are. Mind exceeds emotions in its higher movements though some lower elements of mind penetrate the emotional consciousness where they get mixed up with the waves of emotionalism and get swayed in this manner.
Except the Buddha, the rest of the prophets were men of low morals and savage instincts.
rabbee: the fact that someone, can actually use the space between their ears to think. and it is not what you want to hear, does not constitute brain death. yoga, alleged higher education, or anything else tried by this world, has not changed this world for the better. when it all seems to have, a negative impact on this world. quit pretending like you are the ultimate improvement of only men. there is not that much difference, in what you belive and what adolph hitler believed. with your i'm, the pretend true superior inferior race.

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#54818 Jun 12, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: well yes he could be, unless it could be detrimental to his receiving government pay checks. if you receive any government pay check, you either do exactly as they say, or you do not work for them any more. and may find it curiously difficult, to even get a job anywhere else.
Another myth from volunteerist. In the past I, like thousands of other people, had the opportunity to subcontract into a tiny portion of the stimulus money. Which I happily did. There was a reason it was called stimulus.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#54819 Jun 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Another myth from volunteerist. In the past I, like thousands of other people, had the opportunity to subcontract into a tiny portion of the stimulus money. Which I happily did. There was a reason it was called stimulus.
rabbee: oh that same old, stimulus-nimbo cloud. have you received any more, government contracts since then? or was it just a one time stimulae, rather than stimulus.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#54820 Jun 12, 2013
well at least i am smart enough, to figure out that joel's boloney has a first name. that is not, o-s-c-a-r.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#54821 Jun 12, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: oh that same old, stimulus-nimbo cloud. have you received any more, government contracts since then? or was it just a one time stimulae, rather than stimulus.
Nah. It wasnt even a govt contract. It was a subcontract. Like I said, me and a zillion other people.

That said, I do provide compliance services to the private sector as well. Making me guilty of....capitalism. Oh the shock to libertarian ears.
Voluntarist

United States

#54822 Jun 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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There are functions that private enterprise just cant perform. Ever learn about the "tragedy of the commons"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_c...
There are other functions as well.
I agree those cows might destroy the pasture, that's real important and significant.
Has nothing to do with private enterprise giving charity.
Voluntarist

United States

#54823 Jun 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Because I work for a living I am not allowed to offer an opinion?
I also received a refund from the IRS last year. Does that mean I cant offer an opinion about the IRS?
Part of living in a democracy means that the government is not some abstract idea. Its us.
You rely partially on government work so your opinion on the hand that feeds you is slightly skewed.

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#54824 Jun 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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I agree those cows might destroy the pasture, that's real important and significant.
Has nothing to do with private enterprise giving charity.
It is. Private sector lacks the mechanism to deal with issues of communal importance such as environmental protection

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#54825 Jun 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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You rely partially on government work so your opinion on the hand that feeds you is slightly skewed.
and around and around we go

i already addressed that. Acknowledge that and move on
Voluntarist

United States

#54826 Jun 12, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: but breach of contract, is covered by civil law.
Former res
tell that to a judge at a child support enforcement hearing.
Voluntarist

United States

#54828 Jun 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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It is. Private sector lacks the mechanism to deal with issues of communal importance such as environmental protection
Example

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#54829 Jun 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Example
I just posted the citation

and around and around we go

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#54830 Jun 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Former res
tell that to a judge at a child support enforcement hearing.
something you undoubtedly have first hand experience with

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#54833 Jun 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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In the US mainly we dont have entrance exams. Entrance is based on grades, recommendations, and most importantly, research sponsorship. We do have a generalized standardized test (GRE) but noone I know takes it seriously.

Nor do people go straight to the PhD, usually the departments use the Masters programs as the first gatekeeper, and then a series of oral or written exams based tailored to you by your research committee later AFTER you have finished your PhD coursework.
The American system is mainly drawing on the talent and intelligence of overseas students and scientists.

In disciplines like engineering and math, nearly 75% or more of the PhDs awarded each year by US universities are grabbed by foreign born candidates mainly of Asian origin.

An Indian high schooler with an above average grasp of the subjects can easily outwit most American undergrads and in some cases their grads, too. Those who fail to get into the IITs, IISc, TIFR, BARC and other reputed institutions back here rush to the US universities and many get selected by the IVY Leagues. We find the course work at US universities pretty easy. The cream of Indian students stay back and if interested in grad and doc studies leave Indian shores only after undergrad or master's level programs.

In India, where the entrance standards to undergrad, grad and doctoral courses are much stiffer than in the US, a candidate has to have a master's degree or in certain cases a MPhil degree before sitting for the entrance exams that thoroughly test the basics. Without a sound grasp of the basics, how can a student even dream of pursuing a master's or a doc degree? The entrance exams serve as a weeding out process of the superfluous elements. Of the successful candidates, just a few are selected by each institute after the personal interview where a candidate has to answer and solve on the spot extremely difficult subject-based questions fired at him/her by a panel of eminent professors/scientists. If he/she clears this dreaded stage then he/she gets down to the theory work needed to conduct research at the lab/field level. Funding comes in the form of government/private schols. Institutions like the reputed BARC, IISc, ISI, TIFR and others pay doctoral students a monthly stipend aside from the tuition-fee waiver and research funding - scholarship. Lodging and boarding, if needed on campus, is almost free.

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#54834 Jun 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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In the US we still have independent branches. Destined to drive each other nuts. On a daily basis.
LOL.

So, all these fiercely independent branches of government in the US supported/support lies and frameups when the US invaded Iraq and acted against several Arab nations?

Where was/is their sense of fair-play and conscience in these most critical matters that test the ethical basis of a nation and its watchdog institutions?

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#54835 Jun 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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agreed
Why? Elaborate.

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