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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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JOEL THUMBS UP

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#53451 May 27, 2013
Hebrew - a sacred language? ROFL.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#53452 May 27, 2013
Hebrew is a language of demon-worshipping barbarians.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53453 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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No need to ask personal questions here.
Stop being Gay.
Dr. Flocker, very funny.

Let me be clear, my comment that Judaism celebrates a LIE is sarcasm. I am CONFIDENT that no Judahite except YOU believe that the story of Esther is FICTIONAL.

The people celebrate or keep a MEMORIAL of an ACTUAL EVENT. They are NOT that STUPID as to celebrate a FICTIONAL event. You have GROSSLY misrepresented them.

If I am wrong I would truly be SHOCKED.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53454 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Ask your fictitious Jewish relatives
I challenge YOU and all other MONGRELS to prove me a LIAR.

I shall do a blood test and if I have the genes that link me to the seed of Israel then YOU and other CRUFFS shall pay me US$7m. That should not be a problem as you are all RICH.

I shall sign a proper legal contract that is binding in the US. I shall NOT allow you and your kind to drag me down to the low level of your rabbis.

This is no BS.

PS: I am NOT a JEW.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53455 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
Former--Ever been to a museum?
HughBe--- YES. When you went, did you see the ship that Columbus travelled on?
I think the ship is at Mystic Seaport here in Connecticut.

would you like to come and see it?
HughBe wrote:
HughBe--- A very scientific EVIDENCE.
Former--Remember, it's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
HughBe--- Profound and yet it is not a view that is shared by most rich persons.
I would have guessed the opposite.
HughBe wrote:
Former--All of our GREAT libraries are based on Dewey Decimal.
HughBe--- A new word, GREATER. Embrace the GREATER that I have given and follow it. Spread the good news that the GREATER has come.
I would not want to emulate whatever educational system you are a product of. All due respect of course.
HughBe wrote:
Former--Practice does not perfect, it makes permanent.
HughBe--I see so to get perfect, don't practice.
Leave it to you to draw the wrong conclusion.

It's about WHAT one is practicing, not the practicing itself.
HughBe wrote:
Former--And note that religious practice is based on religious beliefs/faith.
HughBe--- Please stop missing the point, the practices are REAL or REALITY they are not fiction.
I was of course referring to the underlying beliefs.
HughBe wrote:
Former--Again, nothing about facts or reality. It exist solely in your minds.
HughBe-- your parents surely dropped you on your head when you were a baby. The celebration of Purim even though based on a LIE exists in REALITY.
Of course.
HughBe wrote:
HughBe--- The things DONE are REAL. They are NOT philosophy.
Yes.
HughBe wrote:
Former--You have not one shred of evidence to support this statement.
HughBe--- Go to the nearest synagogue, church or mosque and you shall see the things that are done. They are not make-believe.
yes of course.
HughBe wrote:
Former--Why do you reject the concept of faith?
HughBe--- I don't, you just don't get the things that I say.
If faith is belief without evidence then why do you keep
talking about evidence?
HughBe wrote:
Former--Why do you claim evidence when there is none?
HughBe--- Why so much BS or CS? Listen to me well, when I see a car I KNOW that it was made. I see the EVIDENCE of the maker. I don't see the maker.
Big difference.

We know who made the car.
HughBe wrote:
When I see the vastness of the universe I see the EVIDENCE of a Maker. I do NOT see the Maker but I see the EVIDENCE. The same principle for the car.
Big difference.

We don't know anything about who or what made all this.

I can accept that.

You insist on making things up and then worshiping that thing.

Pure fantasy.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53456 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Einstein, there are about 2 billion Christians out there.
How many of them celebrate Christmas?
CRUFF, Christ was BORN and that is what Christmas is about. Even at the kindergarten level this is known, in Jamaica.

Purim and Esther are ALL fiction.

Get it numbskull?

"Long Time Ago In Bethlehem
So The Holy Bible Says
Mary boy child, Jesus Christ
was born on Christamas-day....
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53457 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Didnt say that.
I did say, however, that the only time I read the megillot is in synagogue.
By the way, many Jews do have the megillah (scroll) in their home. I dont. They take it to synagogue on Purim.
HughBe---Are you telling me that the ONLY time that you read the scriptures is when you go to synagogue?

Frijoles---Didnt say that.

I did say, however, that the only time I read the megillot is in synagogue.

HughBe--- Your actual words were, "No, I only read in the synagogue."

I see a difference and I don't see the word "megillot" in it. Do you ?

Memory tells me that you spoke of RECITING the story and that is NOT reading to me.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53458 May 27, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
You must develop sophisticated mental thinking, deeper analytical skills, a greater degree of poise and greater linguistic proficiency to convey your thoughts with aplomb and effectiveness.
But, then, do you need all these superior traits when you're debating riff raff like Frijoles, Former and COR?
LMAO.
So eloquent.

What became of Cunti?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#53459 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
CRUFF, Christ was BORN and that is what Christmas is about. Even at the kindergarten level this is known, in Jamaica.
Purim and Esther are ALL fiction.
Get it numbskull?
"Long Time Ago In Bethlehem
So The Holy Bible Says
Mary boy child, Jesus Christ
was born on Christamas-day....
yeah - 2 Billion Christians and they share the EXACT same meaning of the holiday that you do

not

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#53460 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
HughBe---Are you telling me that the ONLY time that you read the scriptures is when you go to synagogue?
Frijoles---Didnt say that.
I did say, however, that the only time I read the megillot is in synagogue.
HughBe--- Your actual words were, "No, I only read in the synagogue."
I see a difference and I don't see the word "megillot" in it. Do you ?
Memory tells me that you spoke of RECITING the story and that is NOT reading to me.
Actually - it is chanted by a leader and we follow along

call it what you want

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#53461 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
I challenge YOU and all other MONGRELS to prove me a LIAR.
I shall do a blood test and if I have the genes that link me to the seed of Israel then YOU and other CRUFFS shall pay me US$7m. That should not be a problem as you are all RICH.
I shall sign a proper legal contract that is binding in the US. I shall NOT allow you and your kind to drag me down to the low level of your rabbis.
This is no BS.
PS: I am NOT a JEW.
I dont give a hoot what you are

I am asking you to pull your weight here for once and ask some of these questions to your Jewish relatives

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#53462 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
When did Hebrew become a sacred religious language?
Was Hebrew spoken by ONLY one group?
Was it used only in a RELIGIOUS ceremonies?
Ask your relatives

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#53463 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Definition of CELEBRATE--- "to observe (a day) or commemorate (an EVENT) with ceremonies or festivities: to celebrate Christmas; to celebrate the success of a new play."
Judahites COMMEMORATE a NON-EVENT or lie i.e. PURIM.
Is there any TRUTH in Judaism?
Is there any TRUTH in Christianity?
I have been following your exchanges with FR and so far you have not demonstrated anything.
BTW if you call me a Judahite I will call you a ngg_gger.

fair is fair ngg_gger

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#53464 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Dr. Flocker, very funny.
Let me be clear, my comment that Judaism celebrates a LIE is sarcasm. I am CONFIDENT that no Judahite except YOU believe that the story of Esther is FICTIONAL.
The people celebrate or keep a MEMORIAL of an ACTUAL EVENT. They are NOT that STUPID as to celebrate a FICTIONAL event. You have GROSSLY misrepresented them.
If I am wrong I would truly be SHOCKED.
You are the last person I would look towards to explain to me one of my holidays you Jesus freak.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#53465 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

PS: I am NOT a JEW.
Course not. You would need a dck large enough to circumsize.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#53466 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
I challenge YOU and all other MONGRELS to prove me a LIAR.
I shall do a blood test and if I have the genes that link me to the seed of Israel then YOU and other CRUFFS shall pay me US$7m. That should not be a problem as you are all RICH.
I shall sign a proper legal contract that is binding in the US. I shall NOT allow you and your kind to drag me down to the low level of your rabbis.
This is no BS.
PS: I am NOT a JEW.
You are not worth the effort. You are small change.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53467 May 27, 2013
Former--Ever been to a museum?

HughBe--- YES. When you went, did you see the ship that Columbus travelled on?

Former--I think the ship is at Mystic Seaport here in Connecticut.

would you like to come and see it?

HughBe--- I agree and yes. Did you see Columbus dental records?

Former--Remember, it's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.

HughBe--- Profound and yet it is not a view that is shared by most rich persons.

Former--I would have guessed the opposite.

HughyBe-- That is expected and hence the information that I gave.

Former--I would not want to emulate whatever educational system you are a product of. All due respect of course.

HughBe--- Understood, not everyone strives for improvement. I actually got a British based education. Now they are copying the American system and are lowering the quality.

Former--Practice does not perfect, it makes permanent.

HughBe--I see so to get perfect, don't practice.

Former--Leave it to you to draw the wrong conclusion.

HughBe--- wrong is RIGHT for you and vice versa.

Former---It's about WHAT one is practicing, not the practicing itself.

HughBe--- What is practised will not change the fact that repetition will make one get better and better and eventually perfect.

Former--Again, nothing about facts or reality. It exist solely in your minds.

HughBe-- your parents surely dropped you on your head when you were a baby. The celebration of Purim even though based on a LIE exists in REALITY.

Former--Of course.

HughBe--- Thanks for the confirmation. Hush.

HughBe--- The things DONE are REAL. They are NOT philosophy.

Former--Yes.

HughBe--- progress

Former--You have not one shred of evidence to support this statement.

HughBe--- Go to the nearest synagogue, church or mosque and you shall see the things that are done. They are not make-believe.

Former--yes of course.

HughBe--- My hope is growing exponentially.

Former--If faith is belief without evidence then why do you keep talking about evidence?

HughBe--- My faith has EVIDENCE but what kind of EVIDENCE?

Former--Why do you claim evidence when there is none?

HughBe--- Why so much BS or CS? Listen to me well, when I see a car I KNOW that it was made. I see the EVIDENCE of the maker. I don't see the maker.

Former--Big difference.

We know who made the car.

HughBe-- WE know but I don't know. I have NEVER met a car maker. Common sense tells me that cars don't drop out of the sky.

HughBe---When I see the vastness of the universe I see the EVIDENCE of a Maker. I do NOT see the Maker but I see the EVIDENCE. The same principle for the car.

Former---Big difference.

HughBe--- WRONG. IDENTICAL is the correct word.

Former--We don't know anything about who or what made all this.

HughBe--- I know about the Maker from what is made.

Former--You insist on making things up and then worshiping that thing.

HughBe--- You insist of sitting on your brain. There is NOTHING that you know of that is not made. Some are man-made while others are made a Being greater than man.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53468 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
yeah - 2 Billion Christians and they share the EXACT same meaning of the holiday that you do
not
Simplifying, Christians who celebrate Christmas do so because they are celebrating a REAL EVENT and not an imaginary events as in the case of Purim.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53469 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually - it is chanted by a leader and we follow along
call it what you want
Frijoles---I did say, however, that the only time I READ the megillot is in synagogue.

HughBe--- Your actual words were, "No, I only read in the synagogue."
I see a difference and I don't see the word "megillot" in it. Do you ?

Memory tells me that you spoke of RECITING the story and that is NOT reading to me.

Frijoles---Actually - it is chanted by a leader and we follow along

call it what you want

HughBe--- You called it READING then RECITING and NOW CHANTING.

Impressive and no doubt it is a reflection of your equally impressive educational system there.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53470 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I dont give a hoot what you are
I am asking you to pull your weight here for once and ask some of these questions to your Jewish relatives
Actually you did more than that by casting aspersions on what I have asserted as a FACT.

Forgiven.

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