Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#52878 May 20, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
HUGH:
When is Jesus expected on earth in his second avatar?
(smiles)
Based on ALL things that are happening in the world, I believe in our lifetime.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#52879 May 20, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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In essence the people had a "Jewish" IDENTITY that predated RELIGION for many many HUNDREDS of years. The ethnoreligious concept of Jews is really a tool to CONTROL, DOMINATE, OPPRESS the Jewish people by the rabbis. Many Many Jews REJECT God or gods.
.
Your not even Jewish. Why are you wasting time with this fake "concern"?

Could it be that you are just a two bit loser evangelist? You want our souls?

Go to hell.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#52880 May 20, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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ROFL, Papa.
How can consciousness ever be reduced to zero?
The Absolute Consciousness with its Energy counterpart forms the supracosmic and cosmic planes - this is the existence aspect of the manifested Absolute Consciousness and besides the psychic in this poise is aware of the cosmic and supracosmic planes.
But, when the individualized psychic turns on itself and goes within, it fails to take note of the cosmic and supracosmic planes and is completely involved only in its own field. The rest of the manifestation is blotted out for the involved psychic except its own psychic dimension This is the non-existence aspect of the manifested Absolute Consciousness.
Obviously, the Absolute Consciousness is beyond both these modes as it is their source.
Dont call me papa

I am not your papa.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#52881 May 20, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Dont call me papa
I am not your papa.
He could be your adopted son, or your disciple.

Billions of people call Pope as father. Pope is nothing but Papa in Italian.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52882 May 20, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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You asked who builds and maintains buildings, human beings do is there another answer you are looking for?
Their employer?
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52883 May 20, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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No I have a problem with the gun that is used.
Nice pivot.

Do you avail yourself of some of the service I listed?
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52884 May 20, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Your own post;
A successful prima facie defense is rare. Not only does the burden of
proof rest upon the accused, a successful defense may involve
expenses well in excess of the cost of a ticket, such as an expert
witness. Furthermore, because prima facie defenses must be presented
in a court, such a defense is difficult for out of town motorists
In this particular type of defense. ok.

But don't you think the radar reading would be the state's evidence?
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52885 May 20, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Voluntarist---No, former has admitted that he pays taxes by force.
Former---Do you not speed in your car due to force?
HughBe--- At times YES and at other times out of common sense and a sense of selfpreservation.
Sounds like most of us I think.

Twisty roads down there on the island.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52886 May 20, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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yes
Have you ever voted for a dem? a liberal? a person of color?

Obama?

did you vote for our first MBA/retarded president? I bet you did.

Sorry, don't mean to judge you.

:))
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52887 May 20, 2013
Huggy

So you do believe in JC but not the trinity. So 2 out of 3 I guess. Not the holy ghost/spirit. Correct?

So you are part Jewish, part African.

Jews describe themselves as ethnoreligious but you clearly don't agree. You folks can hopefully agree to disagree but yours is very much a minority opinion, something I'm sure you're used to.

Thank you for you thorough response.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52888 May 20, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Noted.
Is the following FORCE? If it is not force tell me what it is.
"if one does not pay he is subject to legal proceeding/entanglements
which would result in fines, high legal costs and possible imprisonment."
Ultimately it will be force or eventually punishment for failing to comply - agreed.

"I am inclined to see it as FORCED payments that are determined by others without my input."

But I don't agree with the last part.

Not determined by others. Determined by our duly elected representative gov't. And with my input in that I vote regularly. Thought clearly we won't always agree with how our money is spent (like the war in Iraq).
Voluntarist

United States

#52889 May 20, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Dont call me papa
I am not your papa.
I shall call you angry white man from this point on.
Voluntarist

United States

#52890 May 20, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Their employer?
Their employer? a fictitious entity?
Voluntarist

United States

#52891 May 20, 2013
former res wrote:
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In this particular type of defense. ok.
But don't you think the radar reading would be the state's evidence?
Not in the political construct known as Connecticut, reasonable and prudent, radar is just prima facia, the conclusion would have to be that the defense was travelling beyond a reasonable and prudent speed.
But how would the star witness know the abilities of the traveler?

But since the rules of criminal procedure apply, corpus delecti can not be established.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#52893 May 20, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Your not even Jewish. Why are you wasting time with this fake "concern"?
Could it be that you are just a two bit loser evangelist? You want our souls?
Go to hell.
HughBe --In essence the people had a "Jewish" IDENTITY that predated RELIGION for many many HUNDREDS of years. The ethnoreligious concept of Jews is really a tool to CONTROL, DOMINATE, OPPRESS the Jewish people by the rabbis. Many Many Jews REJECT God or gods.

Frijoles---Your not even Jewish.

HughBe--- So what, DECEIVING SERPENT?

Frijoles--- Why are you wasting time with this fake "concern"?

HughBe--- My time is my business not yours. Attend to your business DECEIVER.

Your rabbis are FAKES. KNOW your place, BOY. They, as a group, are LYING DECEIVERS and as long as I am so inclined I SHALL STATE THOSE FACTS.

Take your time to understand this, when I see EVIL it is of concern to me. EVIL does not have to affect me PERSONALLY for me to speak out against it and there is NOTHING that your brainless self-serving fellows can do about it.

Tell them to GO JUMP OFF of a CLIFF and don't forget to follow them as you always do, you DUMB BLIND SHEEP.

Frijoles---Could it be that you are just a two bit loser evangelist?

HughBe--- Possible but hardly likely. Your masters are FRAUDS. I look forward to the day when the Jewish people bring them to trial for CRIMES against humanity.

Frijoles---You want our souls?

HughBe--- I am NOT your pharaohs, BOY. They own YOUR soul and like FOUL devils they try to POSSESS the SOULS of the Jewish people.

Frijoles---Go to hell.

HughBe--- I shall not be joining you and your masters.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#52894 May 20, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Dont call me papa
I am not your papa.
Forgive Joel as he sometimes confuses the word papa with what you really are i.e. POOP.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#52895 May 20, 2013
former res wrote:
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Sounds like most of us I think.
Twisty roads down there on the island.
Come and visit, we have a mix of roads including highways.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#52896 May 20, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you ever voted for a dem? a liberal? a person of color?
Obama?
did you vote for our first MBA/retarded president? I bet you did.
Sorry, don't mean to judge you.
:))
Former---Have you ever voted for a dem? a liberal? a person of color?
Obama?

HughBe--- Yes for Obama as I am an American.

Yes for "a person of colour" providing you regard WHITE as a colour. If not yes for the white as a colour tell me what WHITE is.

Yes for the other two given that I flip-flop.

Former--did you vote for our first MBA/retarded president? I bet you did.
Sorry, don't mean to judge you.

HughBe--- Before you open your mouth you are forgiven, by me.

So, there is no need to be sorry. To whom little is given little is expected.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#52897 May 20, 2013
former res wrote:
Huggy
So you do believe in JC but not the trinity. So 2 out of 3 I guess. Not the holy ghost/spirit. Correct?
So you are part Jewish, part African.
Jews describe themselves as ethnoreligious but you clearly don't agree. You folks can hopefully agree to disagree but yours is very much a minority opinion, something I'm sure you're used to.
Thank you for you thorough response.
Former---So you do believe in JC but not the trinity.

HughBe--- I trust in and hope in Jesus, the Christ. The doctrine of the trinity that is taught by SOME of the Christians churches is FALSE.

Former-- So 2 out of 3 I guess. Not the holy ghost/spirit. Correct?

HughBe--- I believe in the Holy Spirit.

Former--So you are part Jewish, part African.

HughBe--- This is what I would say, I have Jewish DNA and BLACK DNA.

Former--Jews describe themselves as ethnoreligious but you clearly don't agree.

HughBe--- It seems that learning is not your forte. Listen well, my memory tells me that nearly 50 % of Jews are SECULAR meaning ATHEISTS etc. This means that THEY would NEVER call themselves any RELIGIOUS anything. They certainly will use the word ETHNIC. Get it?

Former---You folks can hopefully agree to disagree but yours is very much a minority opinion, something I'm sure you're used to.

HughBe--- I am so wounded by your put-down and STUPIDITY it hurts.

Former---Thank you for you thorough response.

HughBe--- It is and was my pleasure.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#52898 May 20, 2013
former res wrote:
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Ultimately it will be force or eventually punishment for failing to comply - agreed.
"I am inclined to see it as FORCED payments that are determined by others without my input."
But I don't agree with the last part.
Not determined by others. Determined by our duly elected representative gov't. And with my input in that I vote regularly. Thought clearly we won't always agree with how our money is spent (like the war in Iraq).
HughBe---Is the following FORCE? If it is not force tell me what it is.
"if one does not pay he is subject to legal proceeding/entanglements
which would result in fines, high legal costs and possible imprisonment."

Former--Ultimately it will be force.....- agreed.

HughBe--- I knew that with sufficient REPETITION you would both understand and agree with my point. Thank God I did not have to repeat myself another time.

HughBe---"I am inclined to see it as FORCED payments that are determined by others without my input."

Former--But I don't agree with the last part.

HughBe--- noted.

Former---Not determined by others. Determined by our duly elected representative gov't.

HughBe--- If you voted for the people of NO COLOUR would you regard the person of COLOUR who won to have been elected by YOU?

Make the connections to your point.

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