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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#49215 Feb 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Thats one way to look at it. No doubt that architecture has an effect on world view. As well as written religions vs oral religions.
But another way to look at it is that with the development of the temple (synagogue), the Hebrews were free to worship anywhere instead of favoring one place over another with altars. Arguably that is a more expansive view of nature then confining it to a certain place, rock, mountain, etc etc...
Appreciation and interaction of the natural world isnt necessarily exclusive with the built worship environment.
rabbee: are you so sure, frijoles. that it is not the other way around, that that the world view does not effect the world arcutecture? do we want to appear as modern, or nostalgic or what? if people are hot for, early ameican or high rises. does this not affect, what the architect does?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#49216 Feb 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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traditions often provide the road map to direct experience.
Without the blueprint as a help, often all we are left is the memory of the experience
rabbee: yes! but traditions, does not necessarily reflect a practice of being true to G-D. and may be the results of being true to a religion, rather than G-D.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#49217 Feb 12, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: well a ph of 7, is considered neutral. so we are not necessarly talking about, detectable acidity by the human palate. and calcium oxilate, is not by a rapid accumilation process. but plutonium oxilate in the kidneys, could be a severe problem. since plutonium, acts like calcium in the body.
but calcium or sodium, is not a common substance found in plants either. but oxalic acid, is a common substance found in almost all plants. though the percent, of oxalic acid may vary from vege to vege. rubarb happens to be one plant, with the highest concentrations of oxalic acid.
and the chloride, also damages concrete too. like all, chlorides do. but is less corrosive to, concrete, iron, steel than sodium or potassium chlorides. but naked aluminum, would be kind of iffy.
pH 7 is not too high for us humans, but it is relatively high for most soils, with the exception of desert soils, making calcium absorption into plants problematic in most soils.

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#49218 Feb 12, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: are you so sure, frijoles. that it is not the other way around, that that the world view does not effect the world arcutecture? do we want to appear as modern, or nostalgic or what? if people are hot for, early ameican or high rises. does this not affect, what the architect does?
Of course it goes both ways. But your environment, whether natural or built, does have an influence on your behavior. Primarily in the interior and layout.

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#49219 Feb 12, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: yes! but traditions, does not necessarily reflect a practice of being true to G-D. and may be the results of being true to a religion, rather than G-D.
I am of the belief that God is everywhere, so you cant go wrong in that department. Where you can go wrong is how you treat others.

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#49220 Feb 12, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: does not everyone not any better than you, who thinks they are allegedly better than you. think they are, your g-d? the i put myself in charge of you, g-d syndrome. cause i say, i am better than you mentality.
I am not sure I get what you mean. But it sounds toothy. You can try to express this again to me if you would like.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#49221 Feb 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Sometimes a man has to remove the sht from his shoes...
HughBe --I thought that you were avoiding me.

Frijoles--Sometimes a man has to remove the sht from his shoes..

HughBe--- I would replace your SOMETIMES with ALWAYS.Another point of departure is that I don't believe that you should remove it from your shoes and then COAT your DICK with it.

Much love from JJ.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#49223 Feb 12, 2013
I think our False yogi uses this thread as his "Scrap Book".

Any idea that comes to his mind, he posts on this thread.

He forgets that number of posts anyone posts is inversely proportional to the quality of the writings.

Any one can guess the qualities of his posts?

Could they not?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#49224 Feb 12, 2013
Which “Sword” the Prophet Used against his enemies: Part-59

Our prophet was not only a preacher. He was also an able administrator and a just ruler.

Those who have experience of administration know when to act tough and when to act with leniency. A King, Ruler and President knows which criminal to pardon and which to get executed. Those who do not have this experience may only speak in idealistic terms. Such idealistic persons are never able to administer any country or state with efficiency.

Beside so many “Swords” which we have mentioned earlier on this thread. He also had a sword of steel. When no other sword worked and the only solution was to wield the sword of steel, he used that also.

Any one who has read his biography knows that how reluctantly he had to use it. We present below, some of these cases, where prophet had to use the sword of steel.

E. The Case of : IBN KHATAL

When people declared general amnesty to people of Makkah, when he had conquered it, he made certain exceptions.

There were eight or 10 people who were not given amnesty. Some of them were murderers who had taken refuge in Makkah and there were some who were ring leaders or had done some heinous crimes and there was no amnesty given to them.

But after some time gap, some of them were also given amnesty and only three or four persons were actually executed. This established prophet’ position as a just and merciful conqueror and not only an idealist or cruel warrior.

IBN KHATAL had earlier accepted Islam, Prophet sent him with some persons to collect ZAKAT from some tribes outside Madina. They collected ZAKAT, but had some dispute amongst them.

IBN KHATAL killed these people and went to Makkah with the collected ZAKAT. He also went back on Islam and took refuge in Makkah where he was given full protection. When Muslim armies marched towards Makkah, he took his arms to resist them but when he saw that he cannot do much, he threw his arms and went to Kaaba and hid himself in the curtains of Kaaba.

When prophet declared general amnesty, he included IBN KHATAL ‘s name amongst the people who were exempted. It was told to prophet that IBN KHATAL has hidden himself under curtains of Kaaba, prophet said “Kill him”

So he was dragged from there and was executed for the murder he had committed. Kaaba is not a sanctuary for murderers and thieves and robbers. It is a place of peace for those who behave peacefully. Otherwise it would become den and refuge for these criminals.

F. The Case of : TWO SINGING GIRLS OF MAKKAH

These two singing girl slaves of Makkah were also exempted from the general amnesty declared by the prophet. Their crime was that they used to sing the hate poetry and used to lampoon the personality of prophet and muslims.

Their master was ABU LAHAB, real Uncle of the prophet and one of the foremost enemies of Islam and Prophet.

Prophet pardoned other people of Makkah, but not such people who made fun of Islam and prophet’s personality. In those days poetry was the foremost medium of spreading hate and bias against Islam and prophet.

That is why, prophet chose to punish such persons and make them as example for others. So these slave girls were deeded fit to taste “Steel Sword wielded by the prophet” and they met fitting end to their disgraceful careers.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/122191862
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#49225 Feb 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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pH 7 is not too high for us humans, but it is relatively high for most soils, with the exception of desert soils, making calcium absorption into plants problematic in most soils.
rabbee: excuse me? the ph, of distilled water is 7. anything above ph 7 to 14 is alkaline, anything below it to 0 is acidic. and most plants, do not use calcium. when you burn plants, you end up with mostly potash left. and most plants, other than saline aquatic plants cannot tolerate chlorides. and even salt water plants, cannot grow in the great salt lake, or the dead sea.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#49226 Feb 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Of course it goes both ways. But your environment, whether natural or built, does have an influence on your behavior. Primarily in the interior and layout.
rabbee: what you believe is true, has more influence on your behavior than you think. the power of suggestion, is more powerful than you think. nor does this mean, any of the suggestions are actually true.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#49227 Feb 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I am of the belief that God is everywhere, so you cant go wrong in that department. Where you can go wrong is how you treat others.
rabbee: now that is not, according to TheTorah is it? the evidence of G-D, may be all around. but this does not mean, that G-D is actually there. and i can assure you, that when G-D came to visit with me, THEY were not anywhere else. nor shall G-D be here, when THEY take off for the day of rest again.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#49228 Feb 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I am not sure I get what you mean. But it sounds toothy. You can try to express this again to me if you would like.
rabbee: those who pretend, they are better than others. are never really better than, the people they pretend they are better than. and always tend to be worse, than those they pretend they are better than. most of the greatest tragities on earth, are from leaders who think they are better than thou.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#49229 Feb 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I am not sure I get what you mean. But it sounds toothy. You can try to express this again to me if you would like.
rabbee: and also, you can observe this, phenomena on these message boards. muslems who only think, they are better than christians. and christians who only think, they are better than muslems. when none are better, than the other. yet both have been convinced, their side is 100% true. when neither side is the truth, but they are never the less convinced.

two opposing lies, does not cancel out the lies. no matter how near equal, the balance of power appears as neutral. it's still only, an illusion.

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#49230 Feb 13, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: excuse me? the ph, of distilled water is 7. anything above ph 7 to 14 is alkaline, anything below it to 0 is acidic. and most plants, do not use calcium. when you burn plants, you end up with mostly potash left. and most plants, other than saline aquatic plants cannot tolerate chlorides. and even salt water plants, cannot grow in the great salt lake, or the dead sea.
Plant nutrients are usually categorized as primary, secondary, or trace nutrients. Calcium is secondary macronutrient. Secondary macronutrients are Ca, Mg, and S. Primary macronutrients are N,P, and K, and C,O, and H. Trace nutrients are metals and Cl.

I never said pH 7 was an ACID, what I said was that pH 7 was more ACIDIC than pH 8, and that most natural non desert soils are more acidic than that.

Calcium availability to plants is diminished as acidity increase I.E. less is available at pH 7.1 than at 7.5.

Maximum availability is at 7.5 and above.

See the diagram at http://www.firstrays.com/PDF/Part%201%20-%20U...

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#49231 Feb 13, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: what you believe is true, has more influence on your behavior than you think. the power of suggestion, is more powerful than you think. nor does this mean, any of the suggestions are actually true.
In the social sciences, there is the argument between the idealists that believe that beliefs influence behavior and the materialists that believe that the physical influences beliefs.

I would have to say, like most things, the answer is somewhere in the middle, and/or depends on the situation.

No doubt beautiful interiors stimulate peoples sense of beauty. And that interior flow patterns matter. Supermarket placement of product is an art for that very reason. On the other hand, how much influence feng shui has is always debatable.

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#49232 Feb 13, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: now that is not, according to TheTorah is it? the evidence of G-D, may be all around. but this does not mean, that G-D is actually there. and i can assure you, that when G-D came to visit with me, THEY were not anywhere else. nor shall G-D be here, when THEY take off for the day of rest again.
Are you not comfortable with the notion that God may reach out to peole differently, according to their needs? You tend to be more of theist, myself more of a panentheist. Perhaps the reason for this is more a reflection of developed personality than anything else.

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#49233 Feb 13, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: and also, you can observe this, phenomena on these message boards. muslems who only think, they are better than christians. and christians who only think, they are better than muslems. when none are better, than the other. yet both have been convinced, their side is 100% true. when neither side is the truth, but they are never the less convinced.
two opposing lies, does not cancel out the lies. no matter how near equal, the balance of power appears as neutral. it's still only, an illusion.
Of course many religionists think that only they are right.

But what if they were. But for themselves only?

One could separate the technique from the ideology. The ideology often only exists to provide them with a sense of identity. Their identity. Not our identity.

I actually (kind of) agree with Joel with that one. Where I differ from our resident swami is that I dotn believe this possibility degrades the technology.
former res

Broomall, PA

#49234 Feb 13, 2013
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/12/anti...

I disagree with Mr. Foxman.

Not so much about "Israeli control over the Senate" - much more about the shameless pandering of the right.

Good Morning all.

(I didn't view the sketch but my guess is it was funny..)

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#49235 Feb 13, 2013
former res wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2013/02/12/anti-defamation-lea gue-blasts-snl-chuck-hagel_n_2 672364.html
I disagree with Mr. Foxman.
Not so much about "Israeli control over the Senate" - much more about the shameless pandering of the right.
Good Morning all.
(I didn't view the sketch but my guess is it was funny..)
You should watch the sketch. It was dumb IMO. Though there was an interesting discussion on whether donkeys could really be fellated or not (Hughbe??).

If done better, it would of been offensive. In the greater picture, it does buy into stereotypes. But I think they bungled it by poor writing.

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