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So, then, by this yardstick, the God of Adam, Eve and their progeny is very different from the G-d of the Hebrews/Jews.
The God the Noah is also very different from the God of Adam and family and is also different from the G-d of the Hebrews/Jews.
How can a faith with a tribal view suddenly morph into one with a worldview when it has nothing to do with other Gods such as the God that Adam and his family worshipped or the God that Noah venerated?
I think you are the only one who is bothered with this alleged paganism. Everyone else sees a continuity.
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<quoted text>Discarding all reference to the beings worshipped, in my view, Adam represents the masculine aspect of the cosmic lower vital principle, while Eve is the female counterpart. This is how Adam and Eve became a part of the religious-view of Judaism. This interpretation is tenable since the Hebrew/Jewish faith is exclusively based on the vital force as evidenced in its teachings and the phenomena and deeds of its patriarchs as narrated in the books of Judaism.
Adam as representing male, and Eve as female?
What an original idea!
And all this time I thought you were ORDINARY!

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There are hundreds of gradations of consciousness.
To know about the past, one has to enter a specific range of the vital consciousness.
With me, the yoga took off directly from the higher mind plane and thereafter there occurred a descent of the supramental consciousness into the higher mind, mind, vital and physical.
The supramental has been working out the difficulties and blocks in the mind, vital, physical and subconscient and as such the inner experiences are based on the state of harmony that has been brought in.
Besides, I have been given rare experiences in the cosmic wideness, the cosmic silence, the unified state and so on.
The vital transformation has been difficult for me what with the vital also being the major domain of the hostile vital beings who've attempted to kill or maim me on many occasions...
I have now withdrawn from the yoga due to the intense difficulties and life threatening situations....however, the yogic experiences are continuing on a spontaneous basis despite quitting the yoga...
BTW, on the Allah thread, you retorted that I confirmed what you'd earlier said about the prophets indulging in sex.
I didn't mean that as a fact but as a strong suspicion.
I mentioned that I suspected that Krishna could have had sex with dozens of his female disciples as part of the raas leela - the yoga of the overmental coming down into the gross physical via the intuition mind, illumined mind, higher mind, higher vital, lower vital and subtle physical.
Further, even if this suspicion is true - the main point of discussion would still be if the sex with his female disciples was an act of lust or an act of detachment to forge a total union in being of Krishna with each of his female partners so that the overmental yoga could be made fully effective on all the intervening planes and finally fixed in the gross physical....so, if this was the case, then, the exchange of mental, vital and gross physical energies between Krishna and the females would not have left any disturbances in the being of each of his female disciples. Otherwise, under normal circumstances, sex leaves a disturbance in the force fields due to exchange of energies and if one has multiple partners the more the disturbances in one's force fields.
Anyway, I've still not got the direct proof of Krishna's alliances with his female disciples. But, I have strong suspicions as related above.
Marriage is simply a safe-guard to protect one's force fields from unbalance by restricting the union to a single partner.
Marriage bonds the man to his wife for life so that the couple's force fields remain largely intact on account of the fidelity factor coming into the picture - provided they were sexually virginal to begin with and assuming that they do not indulge in extra-marital affairs after marriage and provided their force fields complement each other. If yes then the disturbance in their force fields would be minimum and if they really suit each other in an uplifting way then their force fields would get enriched and further stabilized.
It's a very subtle mechanism that I've still to understand fully through direct experience via the investigation of the force fields of married couples.
No speculation or inference.
If you only suspect that the prophets/saints had sex, then there is no need from you to call Muhammad a pedophile only for a suspect.

You risk to pass for a fool.
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The world's best pizzas are made in Italy and Spain.

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Better be careful.

I understand what you are expressing, but a loosely tethered manboy like Hughbe whose inner Eve is perhaps a little too wrapped up over his inner Adam might read that the wrong way and get excited.

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If you only suspect that the prophets/saints had sex, then there is no need from you to call Muhammad a pedophile only for a suspect.
You risk to pass for a fool.
Cut him some slack. He just walked away from his yogic raison d'etre.

It wouldnt shock me if he has his first sexual experience soon (maybe with his maid maybe with his new housemate), which will further alter his perceptions as well.

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The world's best pizzas are made in Italy and Spain.
and the best pizza in America is in New Haven
(sorry Eric)

Did you know that the Graham cracker was invented in Connecticut as well? And that the only factory that manufactures wiffle balls is here as well.

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Sore muscles is about the worst of it for me.
I THOUGHT I knew sore, until I took my boots (and my dog) for a long walk along the trails in the park this morning - sheezus I should of brought snow shoes along. Afterwords I basically collapsed.

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Cut him some slack. He just walked away from his yogic raison d'etre.
It wouldnt shock me if he has his first sexual experience soon (maybe with his maid maybe with his new housemate), which will further alter his perceptions as well.
If he will ever tell us he had sex wih his maid, housemate or master, he would jestify the carnal union as an act of detachment to forge a total union with them so that the overmental yoga could be made fully effective on all the intervening planes and finally fixed in the gross physical..

Lust? Nah too classy to admit it
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If you only suspect that the prophets/saints had sex, then there is no need from you to call Muhammad a pedophile only for a suspect.
You risk to pass for a fool.
Yes, I strongly suspect that the prophets had free sex with their female disciples as part of the yoga to bring down and fix the higher force in the gross physical. Same for Muhammad.

I repeat that I strongly suspect these happenings since I only go by direct proof and not by scripture or speculation.

My suspicion is based on something that formed a part of a certain yogic experience and it's also on account of a hint given to me by my ex-master some years ago.

I will withhold from giving out a decisive conclusion as I don't have the hard proof.

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and the best pizza in America is in New Haven
(sorry Eric)
Did you know that the Graham cracker was invented in Connecticut as well? And that the only factory that manufactures wiffle balls is here as well.
I never heard of New Haven. I looked it up on Wiki and found out that it originated from Neapolitan pizza, in other word Italian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Haven-style_...

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Yes, I strongly suspect that the prophets had free sex with their female disciples as part of the yoga to bring down and fix the higher force in the gross physical. Same for Muhammad.
I repeat that I strongly suspect these happenings since I only go by direct proof and not by scripture or speculation.
My suspicion is based on something that formed a part of a certain yogic experience and it's also on account of a hint given to me by my ex-master some years ago.
I will withhold from giving out a decisive conclusion as I don't have the hard proof.
If you want us to believe that these anthropomorphic beings, as well as Muhammad had sex with female disciples, daughters, sisters, and the latter with a child, to fix the higher force in the gross physical, then you are a deluded.
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TEKTOLOGY - THE FIRST ATTEMPT AT A GENERAL SYSTEMS THEORY:

"Tektology must clarify the modes of organization that are perceived to exist in nature and human activity; then, it must generalize and systematize these modes; further, it must explain them, that is, propose abstract schemes of their tendencies and laws.....Tektology deals with organizational experiences not of this or that specialized field, but of all these fields together. In other words, tektology embraces the subject matter of all the other sciences..."

- Dr Alexander Bogdanow, Russian medical researcher, philosopher and economist.

SOURCE: "The Web of Life" by Dr Fritjof Capra, page 43.

COMMENTS: This is an attempt at a unification of the various sentient and insentient aspects of nature via an analysis of the particulars leading all the way up to the generals. Analysis leads to synthesis. Knowledge is nothing else but a discovery from the particular to the general and the unification of all these manifested aspects into one system. The ultimate reality is not a being or a singularity (one force), rather it is a system of various unified principles.
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If you want us to believe that these anthropomorphic beings, as well as Muhammad had sex with female disciples, daughters, sisters, and the latter with a child, to fix the higher force in the gross physical, then you are a deluded.
Sex is not merely an act of lust as understood by ordinary people.

Notions of mentally induced morality are skewed.

Spirituality is above morality though it modifies morality according to the need of the hour and as worked out by the higher force to suit its aim.

Sex has its spiritual aspect which is a union in consciousness of the partners via the sexual act.

On the subtle planes, union between 2 consciousnesses is non-physical and the yoga can take place perfectly when 2 converging consciousnesses merge on a certain plane and vibrate as a unified system.

But, for the union to be complete, the union has also to take place on the physical plane via the union of the material consciousnesses of the partners as well as through the sexual act devoid of lust and attachment to the carnal pleasure. This would ensure the complete union from the subtle down to the gross physical. Such a yoga takes place from the overmental down to the gross physical.

However, the supramental yoga does away with sex as it eradicates the sex urge and atrophies the sex organs as part of its dynamism on the physical plane.....

I won't be surprised if Krishna actually had sex via the trance state with dozens of his female disciples since his yoga was to bring down and fix the cosmic overmental into the gross physical.

The successful descent of the overmental engineered by Krishna paved the way for the supramental descent.

At times, the sage may marry but refrain from sex as the union with his wife (a yogini of a high order) is purely on the subtle planes and has not the aim of transformation of matter. With this subtle collaboration in place, the yoga on the subtler planes is easier as it has the force of the partner as prop and dynamis.
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and the best pizza in America is in New Haven

(sorry Eric)

Did you know that the Graham cracker was invented in Connecticut as well? And that the only factory that manufactures wiffle balls is here as well.
Ok,,ok ok.



I find pizza too unrefined and cluttered.
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Adam as representing male, and Eve as female?
What?

Think, a bit.

How could the genders have arisen had the universal masculine and feminine principles not inhered in the consciousness-energy field?

Adam and Eve - archetypal gender principles of consciousness that in manifestation on the gross physical plane give rise to males and females.

The billions of males in the world are graded manifestations of the Adam/Masculine principle that inheres in the consciousness-energy field, while the billions of females everywhere are graded personifications of the Eve/Feminine principle that inheres in the consciousness-energy field.
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Feb 10, 2013
 
Pizza for the hoi polloi. Camembert Dariole for the food connoisseurs with refined taste buds.
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Feb 10, 2013
 
Shoney's is oooof so infradig.

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It wouldnt shock me if he has his first sexual experience soon (maybe with his maid maybe with his new housemate), which will further alter his perceptions as well.
No way.

Though I have quit the integral yoga, the yogic experiences are spontaneously arising...and so if I indulge in sex at this juncture and draw in disturbing energies from unregenerate partners the brain wiring will be damaged as the inherent unifying consciousness will fracture. The consequences will be too drastic for me to bear and under this serious unbalance I may turn insane, get paralysed or die a painful death.

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I never heard of New Haven. I looked it up on Wiki and found out that it originated from Neapolitan pizza, in other word Italian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Haven-style_...
The name APIZZA originates from Neapolitan dialect, but the style is original.

"...What sets New Haven-style pizza apart from other styles is its thin crust. Brick or occasionally high temperature gas oven cooking bakes the crust to a very crispy shell (often burnt black in spots, desirably known as "the char") but leaves the inside soft....New Haven-style pizza is traditionally baked in a coal-fired oven[5] and is sold whole rather than by the slice."

They claim the hamburger was invented in New Haven as well. Though not in the pizza places.

I used to live literally 1 block from the street with most of the famous pizza places in New Haven. There are 5 or 6. Everyone has their favorite.

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