Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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HughBe

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Feb 7, 2013
 
Frijoles wrote:
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The anger is of a generalized form, and it comes out in many of your posts.
Take it from me son, when I am angry it is not hidden.

Your post is pure CS.
HughBe

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Feb 7, 2013
 
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What comes to mind is the question of whether Huggy follows the teachings and philosophies, or not. I think not.
Frijoles-- I think not.

HughBe--- I totally agree with you.
HughBe

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Actually it was about his divinity. You failed to keep up with my clarifications. Twice.
Frijoles---Actually it was about his divinity. You failed to keep up with my clarifications. Twice.

HughBe--- It was NOT about His divinity. YOU have now brought it to that and in the process you have deceived your silly little self to believe your own LIE.

The original point is about His existence. Stop making yourself appear stupider than you really are. You have a greater problem with being truthful than you have with your stupidity.

The fact is you are not really stupid, you are just plain LIE, DECEPTIVE and DISHONEST and ALL these negatives are by-products of your religion.

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It's the high winds that I'm concerned about. I really don't want to lose power again.
The winds are not supposed to be that extreme

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Frijoles---Actually it was about his divinity. You failed to keep up with my clarifications. Twice.
HughBe--- It was NOT about His divinity. YOU have now brought it to that and in the process you have deceived your silly little self to believe your own LIE.
The original point is about His existence. Stop making yourself appear stupider than you really are. You have a greater problem with being truthful than you have with your stupidity.
The fact is you are not really stupid, you are just plain LIE, DECEPTIVE and DISHONEST and ALL these negatives are by-products of your religion.
Idiot, scroll back to the SECOND exchange where I made that all clear

and you wonder why we think you are an idiot?
former res

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I almost spewed my soup.
(though truth being I was eating a bagel)
Are you going to get nailed by the storm? We are expecting 12-22 inches.
My brother is heading for Mom's house in OG so he'll share in the snowy fun.

We're in the bottom of the snow band - more like 1-3 inches last I heard.....speaking of Huggy :).... I know he'll take my previous query in his usual good humor!

Love bagels. I take them home, cut them in half, and put them in the freezer. Then just pop them open by twisting a knife and pop then in the toaster when ready to enjoy.

I like the stinky "everything" bagels.
former res

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I almost spewed my soup.
(though truth being I was eating a bagel)
Are you going to get nailed by the storm? We are expecting 12-22 inches.
ps...do you have a snowblower? long driveway? sidewalk?

Best of luck!
former res

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It's the high winds that I'm concerned about. I really don't want to lose power again.
Yeah that really blows.

so to speak ;)

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ps...do you have a snowblower? long driveway? sidewalk?
Best of luck!
yeah, NWS just changed the forecast to 24 inches starting in the morning. We have a small driveway - to be done by hand. Bigger problem is getting up my street.
JOEL

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I would ignore him except for the fact that if I ignored every crank on this forum I would have no one to make fun of.
Hugh is too infra dig.

He gives me the creeps.

His being is petrified and warped.

He should be mocked using a mix of light humor and sarcasm and kept at an arm's length and at the same time he should be firmly shown his place using simple logic that's sufficient to topple his al mumbo jumbo or outlandish beliefs.

Religious bigotry can turn an impressionable person into a most irrational individual or worse into an intolerant monster.

Religion is all about realization or direct experience and has nothing to do with talk or head bowing or knee bending or text torturing.

Well, anyway, you be safe, happy, healthy and prosperous in all ways, always.
JOEL

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No kidding on the first statement
His sexually perverse vibes are sickening and on a few occasions I almost threw up .... the smell was so foul. I'd mentioned this some months ago. Perverse sexual vibes have the worst odor.
JOEL

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Feb 7, 2013
 
I going back to reading Fritjof Capra's "The Web of Life" - a great book on systems theory that directly ties in with the synthesis on mind-matter. He's used modern scientific paradigms and ancient Buddhistic and Vedantic principles to drive home the point.
JOEL

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SYNTHESIS OF MIND-MATTER:

The author of The Yoga Vasishta asserts that the world is relative to the mind and must therefore be mental in basal character if the possibility of its being known is to be achieved:

"The subject cannot be aware of the object unless they are related. And there cannot exist any relation between two heterogeneous things. Relation implies identity, for it cannot be possible between two utterly different objects. The cognition of the object by the subject therefore establishes their substantial identity. If they were utterly different from each other, knowledge would not have been possible; the subject would ever remain unaware of the object as a stone of the taste of sugar. The whole world is merely ideal. It does not exist except in thought. It arises and exists in the mind. The whole universe is the self-expansion of the Mind Force. It is a huge dream arisen within the mind. It is Mind alone that has assumed the forms of time, space and movement."

WOW!

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JOEL

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PENETRATING INSIGHTS ON MIND-MATTER BY MAX PLANCK:

1) "I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness."

2) "We have no right to assume that any physical laws exist, or if they have existed up to now, that they will continue to exist in a similar manner in the future."

3) "Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature. And that is because, in the last analysis, we ourselves are part of Nature and therefore part of the mystery that we are trying to solve."

4) "As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter."
JOEL

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Feb 7, 2013
 
Back to reading the book by Capra and then to the gym for a workout. Bye.

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sickening...
the smell was so foul...
the worst odor...
My Flatulent Child...

Perhaps the odors you are experiencing are a manifestation of that nasty cheap vindaloos you keep buying from the street hawkers down by the Kindia ferry wharf...

For it is truly written...

That he who smelt it... Dealt it...!

-Baba Rum Raisen
“The Rama Lama Ding Dong of Cuffe Parade - Mumbai.”
MUQ

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So don't go criticizing Israel for having perceived differences based on different religious beliefs if the Muslim countries do the same.
I have no problems when people have differences based on some thing which can be changed.

The problem with Isreal is not the religion, but the land which they call as their own.

It is not their land, it is the land which Muslims controlled for much greater durations than Jews ever had.

The problem in Palestine is of land not of religion.

Jews should hand over the land to Palestinians as was before this Mass Immigration of Jews to Isreal started, or partition the land so that Arabs get their part and Jews their part.

And then jews are free to use "any type of apartheid" they want in their lands.

Pure and Simple? Is it not?

One Day the Jews shall beg for this solution, remember it!!
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Now you're just making me blush.
Do you ever blush?
How can you tell?
Just curious.
HughBe--- pillow talk occurs when you get together with Frijoles. What WE are having is an exchange between people who care about each other. This is different from the exchanges between Frijjy and yourself such exchanges are between PARTNERS.

Former--Now you're just making me blush.

HughBe-- Never mind, dear.

Former--Do you ever blush?

HughBe--- Yes dear, I BRUSH daily.

Former---How can you tell?

HughBe--- The glow of the BLACK polished skin gets brighter.
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I am certain Hugh with his "gift of the gaffe" oops I meant "gift of the gab" and great missionary zeal that includes tons of patience as he works at mind controlling his audience has a huge list of admirers and converts most of them ignorant, impressionable, easily influenced, poor, ill-educated and weak-minded.
Hugh claims he worked as CEO for two great MNCs in the past but he displays none of the power, style, sharp intelligence and luxe traits related to high professional status and classy and prosperous living - doesn't own a single haute brand, owns a silly Subaru car, has never flown first class on Singapore Airlines, Qatar Airways, Thai Silk class or any of the luxe airlines of the world and has visited a five star hotel just once in Aruba as per his own admission. He's always broke for hard cash and is neck-deep in financial debt and has been seeking online sympathy from BMZ of Singapore where his monetary woes are concerned. His ideas, choice of words, vibes, reasoning skills and attitude reveal an ill-bred creature with a deep sense of sin, guilt, shame, inferiority, ignorance and superstition that he conceals through smooth and affectionate talk and sophistry in religious and worldly matters. He has the personality of a slippery character who cannot be trusted. Besides, he's deep into sexual perversions.
I don't think he has Jewish blood in his veins. It's all animism, voodoo or Christian blood in him.
Joel---Hugh claims he worked as CEO for two great MNCs in the past but he displays none of the power, style, sharp intelligence and luxe traits .........

HughBe--- YOU claim to be wealthy, so a mere US$1m is nothing to you. I am once again challenging you to bet me on the matter.

Joel---I don't think he has Jewish blood in his veins.

HughBe--- I CHALLENGE you and any Judahite here to bet me on the matter. If my challenge is not taken up I take it that you are all a bunch of PAUPERS/ hypocrites.

I stand by my words. I have been told by my mother that her father was a Jew and a Judge in colonial Jamaica. She was born out of wedlock but was not disowned by him. He was married and had children and so I have Jewish uncles and at least one aunt. These are not and were not young people as they were older than my mother and March this year will mark 89 years after her birth. I really don't know them but I stand by my claims. I am willing to do DNA tests to back up my claim of Jewish BLOOD.

NOTE, DNA tests and not religious test/Judaism test to show the BIOLOGY. I don't claim to be Jewish and I don't consider myself Jewish but the BLOODLINE is there.

I DARE you paupers to BET me on the matter. I DARE you, ALL of you.
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I have no problems when people have differences based on some thing which can be changed.
The problem with Isreal is not the religion, but the land which they call as their own.
It is not their land, it is the land which Muslims controlled for much greater durations than Jews ever had.
The problem in Palestine is of land not of religion.
Jews should hand over the land to Palestinians as was before this Mass Immigration of Jews to Isreal started, or partition the land so that Arabs get their part and Jews their part.
And then jews are free to use "any type of apartheid" they want in their lands.
Pure and Simple? Is it not?
One Day the Jews shall beg for this solution, remember it!!
Now you changed your tirade. Your original position was that the Messianics should be able to live wherever they wanted. When I pointed out to you that the Messianics couldn't live in Mecca, now you are on another tirade that has nothing to do with your original point.

Make up your mind, please.

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