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HughBe--- In what way is Jesus a "DELUSION figure"?
Actually it is your burden to prove or at least show evidence that your Jesus is NOT a delusion.

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HughBe---"myopic head" is interesting. Here is a secret, it was one of a series of posts to prove a point. In addition, any honest and moderately intelligent person who reads their comments on the matter would not take it to mean that they believe that Jesus was a work of fiction.
Frijoles---I never DOUBTED the existence of historical Jesus. In fact, numerous times I have cited Boteach myself, and in fact it was me that offered him to you. HOWEVER, I never said Jesus absolutely existed either. I am agnostic on the matter.
HughBe--- Really? Are you conscious of the things that you WRITE? Do you understand the utter RUBBISH that you habitually write? NO.
Take your time and follow your own words. YOUR words,"I never DOUBTED the existence of historical Jesus..... I am AGNOSTIC on the matter."
Genius what is the meaning of AGNOSTIC? Reconcile you being an AGNOSTIC with you NEVER doubting.
Being agnostic on the matter means I have no proof either way. I am nuetral. Vs being atheistic. Since we are talking about a historic fact, not a deity, this is an adaptive use of the actual word.

Anyone intelligent would of figured that out.

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Frijoles---Silly child, I never said Homer was real
HughBe---why compare REAL/Jesus with fiction/Homer, wise child?
Frijoles---All i asked was that you prove that your DELUSION figure was any less fictitious than my delusion figure
HughBe--- In what way is Jesus a "DELUSION figure"?
Prove that he is anything other than a delusion.

Be a man, not an agnostic.

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former res wrote:
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Actually it is your burden to prove or at least show evidence that your Jesus is NOT a delusion.
ahh - I should of read forward.

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HughBe---why compare REAL/Jesus with fiction/Homer, wise child?
Maat---Mon, you're EFFIN BRILLIANT!
HughBe--- Thanks Maat, it is a GIFT.
Frijoles---“Irony is wasted on the stupid”
HughBe--- Well said, YOU "effin" FOOL.
Thats not irony. Thats vainly concealed anger.

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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/del...

Definition of DELUSION

1: the act of deluding : the state of being deluded

2a : something that is falsely or delusively believed or propagated

2b : a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary; also : the abnormal state marked by such beliefs
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Thats not irony. Thats vainly concealed anger.
HughBe---why compare REAL/Jesus with fiction/Homer, wise child?

Maat---Mon, you're EFFIN BRILLIANT!

HughBe--- Thanks Maat, it is a GIFT.

Frijoles---“Irony is wasted on the stupid”

HughBe--- Well said, YOU "effin" FOOL.

Frijoles---Thats not irony. Thats vainly concealed anger.

HughBe--- sonny boy, I DELIBERATELY ignored Maat's calling me EFFIN and focused on the positive i.e. BRILLIANT. This went right over your head. Now that I have explained it, go back and see in you understand it now.

Next, there is no anger and was no anger towards Maat, YOU "effin" FOOL.

By the way did you pick up on the "concealed anger" via your Satan?
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Prove that he is anything other than a delusion.
Be a man, not an agnostic.
HughBe--- In what way is Jesus a "DELUSION figure"?

Frijoles---Prove that he is anything other than a delusion.

HughBe--- son son, YOU called Him a delusion so YOU explain it and ANSWER my question.
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Being agnostic on the matter means I have no proof either way. I am nuetral. Vs being atheistic. Since we are talking about a historic fact, not a deity, this is an adaptive use of the actual word.
Anyone intelligent would of figured that out.
1. Do as you are told.

2. You talk too much BS or better yet Chicken S.

3. Any intelligent person would NOT avoid answering the questions and would give an INTELLIGENT answer for AGNOSTIC. YOU have FAILED in every department.

4. Try again.

5. Here is a push start for you. Agnostic= a person who DOUBTS that there is a god or a "disbeliever, nonbeliever, unbeliever; doubter,"

6. Take it from here.

YOUR words,"I never DOUBTED the existence of historical Jesus..... I am AGNOSTIC on the matter."
Genius what is the meaning of AGNOSTIC?

Reconcile being an AGNOSTIC with you NEVER doubting.
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Frijoles wrote:
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Prove that he is anything other than a delusion.
Be a man, not an agnostic.
Frijoles--Be a man, not an agnostic.

HughBe--- Thanks for the CONFIRMATION that functionally you are a woman. Note the contrast man versus AGNOSTIC and you have said, "Being agnostic on the matter". So you have called yourself an AGNOSTIC and NOT a man.

Bi-Frijoles

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former res wrote:
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Actually it is your burden to prove or at least show evidence that your Jesus is NOT a delusion.
HUghBE---Greetings my Battyboy friend.

Your man called MY Jesus, the Christ, a DELUSION and so it is appropriate for me to ask him, in what way is Jesus a "DELUSION figure"?

Take your time to understand the flow and the basic logic.

Much love from JJ.
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HughBe wrote:
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HUghBE---Greetings my Battyboy friend.
Your man called MY Jesus, the Christ, a DELUSION and so it is appropriate for me to ask him, in what way is Jesus a "DELUSION figure"?
Take your time to understand the flow and the basic logic.
Much love from JJ.
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Frijole posted the definition of delusion for you:

a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary; also : the abnormal state marked by such beliefs

So back to the central question....do you have any evidence to support your delusion??
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former res wrote:
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Frijole posted the definition of delusion for you:
a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary; also : the abnormal state marked by such beliefs
So back to the central question....do you have any evidence to support your delusion??
Since your man is UNABLE to apply the definition you do so now and answer this, in what way is Jesus a "DELUSION figure"?
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former res wrote:
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Frijole posted the definition of delusion for you:
a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary; also : the abnormal state marked by such beliefs
So back to the central question....do you have any evidence to support your delusion??
While at it explain your man's/Frijoles' words i.e. "I never DOUBTED the existence of historical Jesus."

Having explained it, integrate it into your previous assignment.

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HughBe wrote:
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While at it explain your man's/Frijoles' words i.e. "I never DOUBTED the existence of historical Jesus."
Having explained it, integrate it into your previous assignment.
off on tangents.

This is why we see you as a slime ball. You are incapable of following the conversation - because you know you have no way to answer our initial question - so as a result you get hung up on tangents.

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HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- In what way is Jesus a "DELUSION figure"?
Frijoles---Prove that he is anything other than a delusion.
HughBe--- son son, YOU called Him a delusion so YOU explain it and ANSWER my question.
I have no evidence that he is a messianic figure or real. Do you? If not, and you still consider him messianic and/or real, he is a delusion by definition.
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Frijoles wrote:
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The oldest human religion, and the most commonly encountered tribal religion, is shamanism.
Most forms of Islam are not shamanistic, though the sufis come close in their use of altered states.
Shamanism (pron.:/&#712;&#643; &#593;&#720;m&#601 ;n/ shah-m&#601;n or /&#712;&#643;e&#61 8;m&#601;n/ shay-m&#601;n) is a practice that involves a practitioner reaching altered states of consciousness in order to encounter and interact with the spirit world.[2] A shaman is a person regarded as having access to, and influence in the world of benevolent and malevolent spirits, who typically enters into a trance state during a ritual, and practices divination and healing.[3]
The OLDEST religion in the world is what was practised by Adam the first human on earth and it was Islam, nothing else.

All other isms came after that. We have to see and examine how far they go along with the basic teachings of Islam, that is from God and rest is human distortions.

So easy to check and verify.

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Am I being impossible? Try Joe or HUgh
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Eric wrote:
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Exactly, Mecca
Makkah is OK, but you need a Visa to enter Makkah.

And that Visa is you declare with your mouth "ASHAD -U - AN LA ILAH A ILL A ALLAH MUHAMMAD AL RASOOL ALLAH"

i.e. "I bear witness that their is no deity to worship except Allah, and Mohammad is His Messenger".

messianic Jews, Normal Jews, Christians or people of any other faith can enter Makkah after fulfilling this Visa requirement.

Makkah is a sanctuary and safe place of Allah, it has to be kept pure and uncluttered. Should it not?
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Hi.

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