Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Taking partial statements out of context again, I see. Remember, Jesus is watching you and he is NIOT pleased with you.
Former---I don't think......

HughBe--- Accepted

CUNTI--Taking partial statements out of context again, I see. Remember, Jesus is watching you and he is NIOT pleased with you.

Hughbe--- did you see the dots? If so do you understand the meaning? NO.
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That is - NOT pleased
I take it that the correction was done for the benefit of Frijoles etc.

I certainly understood the typo.

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Former---I don't think......
HughBe--- Accepted
CUNTI--Taking partial statements out of context again, I see. Remember, Jesus is watching you and he is NIOT pleased with you.
Hughbe--- did you see the dots? If so do you understand the meaning? NO.
Tsk, Tsk. It doesn't matter what I think or understand. It matters what Jesus KNOWS, and he KNOWS about your deceitful ways.
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Hughbe: Are the chickens better off DEAD?
Me: Its an error in logic. Hughbe is assuming that the evangelicals are the physical saviors of Israel. The country can survive fine on its own without that type of support, and in fact, as I previously stated, Israelis themselves have in fact expressed that very opinion.
frijoles---The country can survive fine on its own without that type of support, and in fact, as I previously stated, Israelis themselves have in fact expressed that very opinion.

HughBe--- Is the country being forced to take the help?

You are basically representing that the majority of Israelis share your view and if that is so, don't take the aid.

They should tell the Christians how they feel. Also it is my honest view that MOST Christians don't know the feelings of Judahites towards them.
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Hughbe: Are the chickens better off DEAD?
Me: Its an error in logic. Hughbe is assuming that the evangelicals are the physical saviors of Israel. The country can survive fine on its own without that type of support, and in fact, as I previously stated, Israelis themselves have in fact expressed that very opinion.
Evangelicals in the view of a Jew/Journalist with the Jerusalem Post.

1.Israelís GREATEST ASSET

2.HELP Israel WITHSTAND WHATEVER attack might come next.

3.POWERFUL FRIEND for Israel in the form of EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS

4.WITHOUT the Evangelical Christian community STANDING in the BREACH with both PRAYER and action, the United States may have entered a free-fall in its foreign policy that would have ended in a far more hostile environment for Israel

5.ONE ALLY that is STEADFAST... the Evangelical Christian."

6.PROVIDING FOOD and other assistance to THOUSANDS of Israeli immigrants and POOR families

7.Evangelicals) have provided portable concrete BOMB SHELTERS to PROTECT Israeli residents living along the Gaza border and elsewhere in Israel
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<quoted text>Tsk, Tsk. It doesn't matter what I think or understand. It matters what Jesus KNOWS, and he KNOWS about your deceitful ways.
He certainly " KNOWS about your deceitful ways" and LYING ways as well. I am NOT your rabbis Cunti, so do not transfer such words to me, tool of Satan.

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He certainly " KNOWS about your deceitful ways" and LYING ways as well. I am NOT your rabbis Cunti, so do not transfer such words to me, tool of Satan.
Not my rabbi? Why would a non-Jew atheist care about rabbis you silly rabbit.

Now, back to your LYING and DECETFUL ways. Do you not realize that Jesus knows what you are up to.

Stop your lying ways. You're making Jesus very sad.

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HughBe wrote:
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Please read and EXPLAIN the meaning of the quotes with focus on the capitalized words. Tell me if they are FALSE. They were taken from the Jerusalem Post.
1."Israelís GREATEST ASSET and best friend By EARL"
2." Evangelicals use their political, financial and spiritual LEVERAGE to HELP Israel WITHSTAND WHATEVER attack might come next."
3."In recent years, however, a groundswell of support for Israel has arisen, creating a new and POWERFUL FRIEND for Israel in the form of EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS. From all over the world these Evangelical Christian believers, including many Americans, are proud to be labeled as ďChristian Zionists.Ē"
4."WITHOUT the Evangelical Christian community STANDING in the BREACH with both PRAYER and action, the United States may have entered a free-fall in its foreign policy that would have ended in a far more hostile environment for Israel."
5."The longstanding tradition of the US being Israelís closest ally is arguably being dismantled by policies detrimental to Israel. But there is ONE ALLY that is STEADFAST... the Evangelical Christian."
6."Many Evangelical Christian organizations in Israel, with support from Evangelical Christians around the world, are PROVIDING FOOD and other assistance to THOUSANDS of Israeli immigrants and POOR families."
7.Others(Evangelicals) have provided portable concrete BOMB SHELTERS to PROTECT Israeli residents living along the Gaza border and elsewhere in Israel
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributor ...
I hear seven.

Are you going for eight?

You are a TOTAL waste of time.

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frijoles---The country can survive fine on its own without that type of support, and in fact, as I previously stated, Israelis themselves have in fact expressed that very opinion.
HughBe--- Is the country being forced to take the help?
You are basically representing that the majority of Israelis share your view and if that is so, don't take the aid.
They should tell the Christians how they feel. Also it is my honest view that MOST Christians don't know the feelings of Judahites towards them.
I dont know what the majority of Israelis think. But I can read and hear what MANY of them think.

You are confusing Christians at large with evangelicals - a subgroup. My guess, is that here in the US, MANY* Christians hate the evangelicals as much as we do.

*MANY means many - not necessarily the majority -

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HughBe wrote:
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Evangelicals in the view of a Jew/Journalist with the Jerusalem Post.
1.Israelís GREATEST ASSET
2.HELP Israel WITHSTAND WHATEVER attack might come next.
3.POWERFUL FRIEND for Israel in the form of EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS
4.WITHOUT the Evangelical Christian community STANDING in the BREACH with both PRAYER and action, the United States may have entered a free-fall in its foreign policy that would have ended in a far more hostile environment for Israel
5.ONE ALLY that is STEADFAST... the Evangelical Christian."
WE HAVE EIGHT!!!!

Can we go for NINE?
HughBe wrote:
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6.PROVIDING FOOD and other assistance to THOUSANDS of Israeli immigrants and POOR families
7.Evangelicals) have provided portable concrete BOMB SHELTERS to PROTECT Israeli residents living along the Gaza border and elsewhere in Israel
Dont pump the group up so much. My guess is that they supply assistance to hundreds, not thousands, and, if history is any judge, there are STRINGS attached.

Israel can live without the support. Its not that big of deal. Its not like we are talking about a third world country - in MANY* ways, Israel is more advanced than the U.S. and definitely more advanced than the slum country you live in.

*MANY means many, in case you are still confused.

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http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2...

Israel Relies on Evangelicals at its Moral and Political Peril

JEFFREY GOLDBERG - Jeffrey Goldberg is a national correspondent for The Atlantic and a recipient of the National Magazine Award for Reporting. Author of the book Prisoners: A Story of Friendship and Terror, Goldberg also writes the magazine's advice column.
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Not my rabbi? Why would a non-Jew atheist care about rabbis you silly rabbit.
Now, back to your LYING and DECETFUL ways. Do you not realize that Jesus knows what you are up to.
Stop your lying ways. You're making Jesus very sad.
Your claim has no credibility, Cunti.
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Frijoles wrote:
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I hear seven.
Are you going for eight?
You are a TOTAL waste of time.
Please read and EXPLAIN the meaning of the quotes with focus on the capitalized words. Tell me if they are FALSE. They were taken from the Jerusalem Post.
1."Israelís GREATEST ASSET and best friend By EARL"
2." Evangelicals use their political, financial and spiritual LEVERAGE to HELP Israel WITHSTAND WHATEVER attack might come next."
3."In recent years, however, a groundswell of support for Israel has arisen, creating a new and POWERFUL FRIEND for Israel in the form of EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS. From all over the world these Evangelical Christian believers, including many Americans, are proud to be labeled as ďChristian Zionists.Ē"
4."WITHOUT the Evangelical Christian community STANDING in the BREACH with both PRAYER and action, the United States may have entered a free-fall in its foreign policy that would have ended in a far more hostile environment for Israel."
5."The longstanding tradition of the US being Israelís closest ally is arguably being dismantled by policies detrimental to Israel. But there is ONE ALLY that is STEADFAST... the Evangelical Christian."
6."Many Evangelical Christian organizations in Israel, with support from Evangelical Christians around the world, are PROVIDING FOOD and other assistance to THOUSANDS of Israeli immigrants and POOR families."
7.Others(Evangelicals) have provided portable concrete BOMB SHELTERS to PROTECT Israeli residents living along the Gaza border and elsewhere in Israel
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributor ...
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Frijoles wrote:
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I dont know what the majority of Israelis think. But I can read and hear what MANY of them think.
You are confusing Christians at large with evangelicals - a subgroup. My guess, is that here in the US, MANY* Christians hate the evangelicals as much as we do.
*MANY means many - not necessarily the majority -
frijoles---The country can survive fine on its own without that type of support, and in fact, as I previously stated, Israelis themselves have in fact expressed that very opinion.

HughBe--- Is the country being forced to take the help?

You are basically representing that the majority of Israelis share your view and if that is so, don't take the aid.

They should tell the Christians how they feel. Also it is my honest view that MOST Christians don't know the feelings of Judahites towards them.

Frijoles--I dont know what the majority of Israelis think. But I can read and hear what MANY of them think.

HughBe--- My points stand as stated above. Let the Christians KNOW their feelings and REJECT the help.

Former---You are confusing Christians at large with evangelicals - a subgroup.

HughBe--- you talk too much BS non-Christian.

Frijoles---My guess, is that here in the US, MANY* Christians hate the evangelicals as much as we do.

HughBe--- We who, boy? The Jew who wrote the article does NOT hate Christians like WE/Judahites. That much should be clear to even a moron like you.

Support your IDIOTIC/lying claim about many Christians HATING evangelicals.

FRijoles---*MANY means many - not necessarily the majority -

HughBe--- quantify what is your meaning of many. Is it 40%?
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Frijoles wrote:
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WE HAVE EIGHT!!!!
Can we go for NINE?
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Dont pump the group up so much. My guess is that they supply assistance to hundreds, not thousands, and, if history is any judge, there are STRINGS attached.
Israel can live without the support. Its not that big of deal. Its not like we are talking about a third world country - in MANY* ways, Israel is more advanced than the U.S. and definitely more advanced than the slum country you live in.
*MANY means many, in case you are still confused.
Evangelicals in the view of a Jew/Journalist with the Jerusalem Post.
1.Israelís GREATEST ASSET
2.HELP Israel WITHSTAND WHATEVER attack might come next.
3.POWERFUL FRIEND for Israel in the form of EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS
4.WITHOUT the Evangelical Christian community STANDING in the BREACH with both PRAYER and action, the United States may have entered a free-fall in its foreign policy that would have ended in a far more hostile environment for Israel
5.ONE ALLY that is STEADFAST... the Evangelical Christian."
WE HAVE EIGHT!!!!
6.PROVIDING FOOD and other assistance to THOUSANDS of Israeli immigrants and POOR families
7.Evangelicals) have provided portable concrete BOMB SHELTERS to PROTECT Israeli residents living along the Gaza border and elsewhere in Israel

Frijoles---Dont pump the group up so much. My guess is that they supply assistance to hundreds, not thousands, and, if history is any judge, there are STRINGS attached.

HughBe--- you are a NASTY piece of work, Judahite.

Frijoles---Israel can live without the support. Its not that big of deal.

HughBe--- Is the aid taken because they don't want to hurt the feelings of the Evangelicals? Reject the aid.

Frijoles---Its not like we are talking about a third world country - in MANY* ways, Israel is more advanced than the U.S. and definitely more advanced than the slum country you live in.

HughBe--- your house is a slum and it matches your FILTHY mind. Also non-American are you being detained in America? If not pack your bags and GO.
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HughBe wrote:
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Please read and EXPLAIN the meaning of the quotes with focus on the capitalized words. Tell me if they are FALSE. They were taken from the Jerusalem Post.
1."Israelís GREATEST ASSET and best friend By EARL"
2." Evangelicals use their political, financial and spiritual LEVERAGE to HELP Israel WITHSTAND WHATEVER attack might come next."
3."In recent years, however, a groundswell of support for Israel has arisen, creating a new and POWERFUL FRIEND for Israel in the form of EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS. From all over the world these Evangelical Christian believers, including many Americans, are proud to be labeled as ďChristian Zionists.Ē"
4."WITHOUT the Evangelical Christian community STANDING in the BREACH with both PRAYER and action, the United States may have entered a free-fall in its foreign policy that would have ended in a far more hostile environment for Israel."
5."The longstanding tradition of the US being Israelís closest ally is arguably being dismantled by policies detrimental to Israel. But there is ONE ALLY that is STEADFAST... the Evangelical Christian."
6."Many Evangelical Christian organizations in Israel, with support from Evangelical Christians around the world, are PROVIDING FOOD and other assistance to THOUSANDS of Israeli immigrants and POOR families."
7.Others(Evangelicals) have provided portable concrete BOMB SHELTERS to PROTECT Israeli residents living along the Gaza border and elsewhere in Israel
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributor ...
rabbee: liars seek the comfort and sympathy, of other liars. in their attmpts to avoid, those with the actual truth. as lies try to make you all look better, than you realy are. in order to avoid, any true improvement. and all the lies in this world, are the reason you have never had any true peace in TheWorld.
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rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: liars seek the comfort and sympathy, of other liars. in their attmpts to avoid, those with the actual truth. as lies try to make you all look better, than you realy are. in order to avoid, any true improvement. and all the lies in this world, are the reason you have never had any true peace in TheWorld.
Rabbee--all the lies in this world, are the reason you have never had any true peace in TheWorld

HughBe--- Correct, Rabbee.

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Your claim has no credibility, Cunti.
Jesus is making a mental note of all your indiscretions Huggy.
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Lol I am the last person in the world to believe in paulianity. Or the Romanized version of the teachings of Jesus. I will read up and reexamine what the word says about Jesus's own thoughts on salvation.

As far as Jesus telling me this personally, I would love to have been able to sit at his feet when he walked the earth. As he is the ultimate "prophet".

With regards to the prophets, we still have their teachings written plain as day in the Old Covenant. And I still read them.
Ans.

I appreciate your desire that you want to sit in the feet of jesus and listen to his words and thoughts.

These are very noble thoughts, but unfortunately you will never get the chance.

Because the original words and thoughts of Jesus have been superimposed by Paul and his followers and you can hardly listen to "real jesus" in any existing Gospel.

You can get some idea of what jesus taught and spoke by going thru the Gospel of Barnabas, which preserves some of his true teachings.

And if you want to find the truth, then why not follow Jesus' advice and "Look" for the Comforter whom Jesus promised (as mentioned in Gospel of John Ch 14 thru Ch 16).

Do you know who was that comforter?
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01. You are a fool, speaking as if you understand the Christian faith.
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02. When you say that Paul wasn't alive during Jesus time, you do not know the full story about St Paul, and his interactions with with Apostles,

03. I don't know what faith you profess to be, but you do not know what you are speaking about..

04. And through faith you will obtain understanding, and will act accordingly.

05. You are a blind man trying to lead others into following you, while you yourself do not know the road to salvation. "
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01. I am trying to understand what is Christian faith. But the problem is there are so many sects and denominations that I do not know which one is speaking the truth. Can you tell me 'Which of these thousands of Sects and Denominations" has "Holy Spirit" inside them.

I can understand "New Testament" would be taken when the Messiah comes, but that New Testament does not mean that it would contradict the "Old Testament" or preach something which is totally new?

03. I did not say St. Paul was not "alive" during Jesus' time, I only said that he never met jesus and did not learn anything from him while Jesus lived on this earth and this is 100 % truth.

St. Paul also did not "learn" anything from jesus' Chosen disciples either. He was already a "Super Apostle" when he reached Jerusalem to talk with those "Ordinary Apostles".

All the Gospels were written after the letters of Paul were published and they have all been "wetted" by the followers of St. Paul. You should read the History of Bible and how these books originated.

03. I am Muslim by faith and I profess Islam which was the religion of all prophets of God, including Jesus. He was not Christian, he was a Muslim (i.e. submitting his own will to will of his Lord and His Creator)

04. If what I believe is Apostasy, then where is the true faith? In annals of St. Paul?

05. I am trying my best asking you people to open your eyes and see why you are being mislead. You read your books but draw very wrong conclusions.

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