Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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JOEL

Mumbai, India

#47842 Jan 26, 2013
ENTROPY & SENTIENCE:

Entropy describes the tendency for systems to go from a state of higher organization to a state of lowest organization on a molecular level. What about entropy on the level of mind, emotions and consciousness?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#47843 Jan 26, 2013
Consciousness with its unmanifest energy that assumes dynamic form when dealing with the disordered aspect of the unified field of consciousness-energy reverses entropy as it is a masterpiece of organization/organizing ability.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#47844 Jan 26, 2013
Constant wear and tear leading to a breakdown of organization at the molecular level due to increasing disorder finally forces the consciousness with its finer states of energy out of the brain-body system leading to death of the physical apparatus.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#47845 Jan 26, 2013
The potent subtler states of consciousness with their innate energy aspects have the capacity to reverse disorder at the molecular level. Only yogis have direct access to these finer degrees of consciousness-energy.
idgaf

Bedford, MA

#47846 Jan 26, 2013
JOEL wrote:
COSMIC CYCLES, ENTROPY & THE SELF-EXISTENT UNIFIED FIELD OF CONSCIOUSNESS-ENERGY:
1) Consciousness and energy - that forms a unified field - can neither be created nor destroyed. They move from finer to grosser state and from unmanifest to manifest state in cyclical fashion.
2) Increasing entropy means a corresponding high state of disorder.
3) For the disordered energy to become ordered once again so that the next round of projecting the universe into form can come about, what is the inherent mechanism involved?
4) If the universe is only energy then once all the useful energy is gradually converted into frictional heat via work then there would be no way that this highly disordered state of energy could be made ordered again.
5) What is needed is an innate intelligent principle with sufficient energy at its disposal to set right the disorder in the energy field.
6) Besides, energy by itself lacks precision or motive or order and cannot account for sentience.
7) So, it makes better sense to consider the ultimate reality as constituting a unified field of consciousness-energy that, in partial manifestation, gives rise to the highly ordered universe (with its sentient beings) that runs according to precisely formulated in-built laws.
8) The unmanifest energy remains unified with the unmanifest consciousness both of which which underlie the manifest aspects of consciousness and energy that form the universe.
9) When the energy in manifestation becomes highly disordered at the end of a cosmic cycle and enters a fine state like the one corresponding to the QM vacuum or something still subtler, it is here and at this point that the unmanifest degree of consciousness-energy that underlie the manifest aspects becomes dynamic and infuses the disordered part of the energy and converts it (the disordered energy) into a state of order and as such the next round of the universe is then set into motion.
Long way of saying imaginary energy and lack of order and potential for that.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#47848 Jan 27, 2013
Hi Baby.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#47849 Jan 27, 2013
OPEN VERSUS CLOSED SYSTEMS & DEATH:

Though the body is an open system that exchanges matter and energy with its surroundings, yet the universe taken as a whole is a closed system and so entropy effects are bound to affect the body in the long run and besides friction among body parts and with the environment would also lead to wear and tear and so at a certain critical threshold the body begins malfunctioning and ultimately becomes incapable of containing the innate consciousness and concomitant energy leading to their exiting the body which is a condition called death.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#47850 Jan 27, 2013
OVERCOMING DEATH:

If a higher range of consciousness-energy based on the unification principle infuses the body then wear and tear of the bodily parts can be minimized or eliminated and as such the body would constantly manifest a high degree of order in its material as well as functional aspects and in its interaction with its surroundings that as a result would retain the sentient principle in the body thus making death redundant. However, such an immortal body would not be invincible if the power to neutralize the damaging effects of poison and accident is absent or poorly developed.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#47851 Jan 27, 2013
DRUGS & SENTIENCE:

1) Mind and emotions can be manipulated by powerful drugs injected into the body through the common line of energy connecting matter, emotions and mind states. Similarly, the individual degrees of consciousness characterizing the body, emotions and mind are also linked and so if one is affected the others are also impacted. Matter, emotions and mind are simply different functional modes or varied vibrations of consciousness and energy. As known consciousness and energy that form a unified field can neither be created nor destroyed.

2) In the frontal personality, the consciousnesses and energies of matter, emotions and mind are so closely mixed up that each influences the other but the higher ranges of consciousness and energy that're resilient to external influences to a great extent stand back from the frontal personality and remain largely unaffected by the dynamics of mind, emotions and matter.

3) If drugs can influence the emotional and mental states of being, then hypnosis, auto-suggestions and meditation can influence the emotions and body and similarly the emotions that form a bridge between matter and mind can influence the body and mind.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#47852 Jan 27, 2013
BEING AND BECOMING:

Superior genes, proper diet (strictly vegetarian), eco-sensitivity and good karma connect us to the balanced and uplifting lines of consciousness-energy that lead to life and growth.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#47855 Jan 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Madam, how like you this play?
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
Frijoles---The lady doth protest too much, methinks

HughBe--- BattyBoy, I am NOT a lady.

Again---Please STUDY my post as you have not grasped the true meaning of the words.
If I were class conscious in the way that you are speaking I would NEVER have attended those two churches.
I would have gone to churches where the majority are professionals/business people and YES there are those types of churches.
(Recall the churches have a majority of members who are literally semi-literate at best.)
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#47856 Jan 27, 2013
former res wrote:
Huggy
Your return to the forum is disappointing.
Post something interesting.
Perhap some example of original thinking...
Waiting on pins and needles.
It is a pity that you find my words that follow disappointing.

1.Much love from Jamaica.

2. I'll never leave you, my love.
Eric

Schaumburg, IL

#47858 Jan 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

I would have gone to churches where the majority are professionals/business people and YES there are those types of churches.
It's an anomaly of those who believe that Jesus was the Messiah and a member of the Triune.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#47864 Jan 27, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
It's an anomaly of those who believe that Jesus was the Messiah and a member of the Triune.
explain your rambling words.
Eric

Schaumburg, IL

#47866 Jan 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
explain your rambling words.
Having places of worship that are segregated by socioeconomic standing is unique to people who have religious beliefs similar to you.
former res

Broomall, PA

#47867 Jan 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
It is a pity that you find my words that follow disappointing.
1.Much love from Jamaica.
2. I'll never leave you, my love.
Perhaps you mean well.

But tell me,

1. Do you still see your god when you look in the mirrow? and

2. Is what is acceptable to you still acceptable to your god?

3. Are you not placing a "flase god" before thee?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#47868 Jan 27, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Having places of worship that are segregated by socioeconomic standing is unique to people who have religious beliefs similar to you.
Eric--It's an anomaly of those who believe that Jesus was the Messiah and a member of the Triune.

HughBe--explain your rambling words.

Eric--Having places of worship that are segregated by socioeconomic standing is UNIQUE to people who have religious beliefs similar to you.

HughBe--- You have not explained the ANOMALY plus the part about Jesus being a member of the triune. Do so NOW.

Having said that, do you really understand your OWN words? NO.

Do you understand my words? NO
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#47869 Jan 27, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
It's an anomaly of those who believe that Jesus was the Messiah and a member of the Triune.
Let me help you in your attempted explanation. I have copied my post and your response to it. Now in explaining YOUR words do so in its CONTEXT plus define anomaly and fit your definition into your sentence. Let me illustrate it for you.

HughBe---I would have gone to churches where the majority are professionals/business people and YES there are those types of churches.

Eric---It's (unusual or unexpected) of those who believe that Jesus was the Messiah and a member of the Triune.

NOTE the replacement of"an anomaly".

Note--My example MEANS, attending TWO churches is UNEXPECTED and UNUSUAL for someone who believes in the Trinity.

__________

Original words follow, give it a try.
HughBe---I would have gone to churches where the majority are professionals/business people and YES there are those types of churches.

Eric---It's an anomaly of those who believe that Jesus was the Messiah and a member of the Triune.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#47870 Jan 27, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps you mean well.
But tell me,
1. Do you still see your god when you look in the mirrow? and
2. Is what is acceptable to you still acceptable to your god?
3. Are you not placing a "flase god" before thee?
HughBe---It is a pity that you find my words that follow disappointing.
1.Much love from Jamaica.
2. I'll never leave you, my love.

Former--Perhaps you mean well.

HughBe--- I mean well, Former.

Former-- Do you still see your god when you look in the mirrow?

HughBe--- YES as I am not blind.

Former-- Is what is acceptable to you still acceptable to your god?

HughBe--- YES

Former-- Are you not placing a "flase god" before thee?

HUghBe--- NEVER.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#47872 Jan 27, 2013
TRIUNES AND MORE.....

The whole of existence in its subtle and gross aspects is constituted of many triunes, biunes, pentunes, heptunes and the like. These are the various multiple modes of manifestation of a singular source

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