Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Voluntarist

United States

#47424 Jan 19, 2013
former res wrote:
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Sure, breach, disorderly - whatever they want to call it.
But by your example it would have been legal for the store owner to hit the customer for what he did.
Piers morgan - short of yelling fire in a crowded theater - can say whatever he wants to (direct threats/defamation notwithstanding).
He mentioned "popping" alex jones with an assault weapon with his brothers uniform on.

“Where is Cookeville?”

Since: Dec 07

Cookeville

#47428 Jan 19, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Later life:
Source: Companions of Prophet: by Talib Hashmi
Hey, boy. I have a very simple, straight-forward question for you. No spin, no equivication, no nonsense, just a simple "yes" or "no" answer. We will see if you can do this. You know a grown human being who enters into the state of "marriage" with an 8-year old child. Are you looking at that person as some sort of "Holy" person or elevating him to some sort of almost deified status? Don't answer with a paragraph, just answer "yes," or "no." Is it somehow "Holy," or "Godly," or however you would prefer to phrase it to make it honorable and upstanding for a grown human adult to enter into such a union in the first place, or is it an abomination? Don't be a coward in your answer, Muq. Just answer, "yes" or "no." This is either honrable behavior or it is not.
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#47431 Jan 20, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- Please read what follows in 1,2,3 and 4 and tell me if you are an IDIOT or a JACKASS. Thanks...
Thank you, too.

Your quotes do not address my points which I have kept to myself.

As I mentioned..."Continuing to go back and show you your own words becomes tedious and tiresome, and frankly, boring."

So I will take a pass on doing so.

We can move on.

I will use fresh material moving forward to point out your silly and inconsistent ways.

It will be like shooting fish in a barrel.
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#47432 Jan 20, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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He mentioned "popping" alex jones with an assault weapon with his brothers uniform on.
Would I have to do my own research in order to prove your point or will you show what you're talking about?

Either a transcript or a clip would help.

We usually back up our words around here...
Voluntarist

United States

#47433 Jan 20, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Would I have to do my own research in order to prove your point or will you show what you're talking about?
Either a transcript or a clip would help.
We usually back up our words around here...
Piers Morgan and Guests Discuss Shooting Alex Jones
Daily Beast writer Buzz Bissinger says Piers Morgan should “pop”
Alex Jones with a semi-automatic weapon.
Aaron Dykes
Infowars.com
January 8, 2013
CNN and the gun grabbing media are now calling for Alex Jones to be
shot the day after his heated appearance with Piers Morgan.
In a segment on Piers Morgan’s CNN program, sports columnist for the
Daily Beast, Buzz Bissinger, shockingly states:
“I don’t care what the justification is that you’re allowed in this
country to own a semi-automatic weapon – much less a handgun. But
what do you need a semi-automatic weapon for? The only reason I
think you’d need it is, Piers, challenge Alex Jones to a boxing match,
show up with a semi-automatic that you got legally and pop him.”
Abby Huntsman (Huffington Post):“I’d love to see that…[laughter] in
uniform.”
Piers Morgan:“I’ll borrow my brothers uniform.”

http://www.infowars.com/veiled-threat-piers-m...
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#47434 Jan 20, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Piers Morgan and Guests Discuss Shooting Alex Jones
Daily Beast writer Buzz Bissinger says Piers Morgan should “pop”
Alex Jones with a semi-automatic weapon.
Aaron Dykes
Infowars.com
January 8, 2013
CNN and the gun grabbing media are now calling for Alex Jones to be
shot the day after his heated appearance with Piers Morgan.
In a segment on Piers Morgan’s CNN program, sports columnist for the
Daily Beast, Buzz Bissinger, shockingly states:
“I don’t care what the justification is that you’re allowed in this
country to own a semi-automatic weapon – much less a handgun. But
what do you need a semi-automatic weapon for? The only reason I
think you’d need it is, Piers, challenge Alex Jones to a boxing match,
show up with a semi-automatic that you got legally and pop him.”
Abby Huntsman (Huffington Post):“I’d love to see that…[laughter] in
uniform.”
Piers Morgan:“I’ll borrow my brothers uniform.”
http://www.infowars.com/veiled-threat-piers-m...
I thought for a second Piers threatened to shoot Jones.

Sounds like a bad joke. Poor taste for sure.

So sue him.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#47435 Jan 20, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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There are many scientists of just about every faith, including xianity and is-lame. Science does not deny the Gods. Science only looks to see the naturalistic processes involved in this world without reference to ANY form of the supernatural.
That post gets the Frijoles Seal of Approval

http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/medi...

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#47436 Jan 20, 2013
idgaf wrote:
Beans, you have good thoughts. I like 'em. I don't think I'm almost anywhere. I simply can't understand how people can just believe in something cause they read a book or heard a story. I like to live from experience. I also am a firm believer that you learn from doing and experimenting. Scientists (if I were a good one) experiment and think. They ask hard questions that are not simple to answer. Let's assume that I was almost a scientist, but not quite a scientist, maybe a realist like an engineer, how would I address the concept of God?
Maybe I'd look for any kind of proof. I'd fail to find any. I'd find lots of stories and testimonies, but no one would be able to answer my simple questions. I might try to harness this energy somehow? Can we capture God in a glass? I'd maybe do some experiments. One that comes to mind is to bring a child to term. Raise the child in an isolated cube. No external influences. No teachings. Would this child by nature know God? After a full life in isolation with no foreign influences, I'd test the theory that we have God within. My guess is that this child would not know God any better than the American indians knew when the white man came to the new world. Of course, figuring this out would be a challenge. The problem with this problem of God and religion and science is that we tend to vary too many variables.
In conducting investigations, the most common mistake is to ignore the impacts of variables upon variables.
Peace out Beans ... Saw your response and didn't make the connection, then again, I was cat at that moment. Multipersonalities are hard to control :)-
In all honestly, I immediately regretted my post that you were almost there. It sounded arrogant, even if that wasnt the intent.

GOd in a glass? interesting idea for an experiment. My way around that is to borrow from the panenetheistic point of view. That way, God is not only in the glass, but god is the glass itself. Problem solved.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#47437 Jan 20, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Jew HATER, get behind me but not to fulfill your heart's desire.
You really need to formally exit the closet.

I mean this sincerely. It will clean up your existential crisis, and probably clear up your acne as well as a bonus.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#47438 Jan 20, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought for a second Piers threatened to shoot Jones.
Sounds like a bad joke. Poor taste for sure.
So sue him.
Piers is habitually uncouth. Dont know why the right wing bothers to give him more influence than he really has.
idgaf

Tewksbury, MA

#47439 Jan 20, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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That post gets the Frijoles Seal of Approval
http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/medi...
Looks like my dog ...
Voluntarist

United States

#47440 Jan 20, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought for a second Piers threatened to shoot Jones.
Sounds like a bad joke. Poor taste for sure.
So sue him.
That could be construed as inciting violence.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#47441 Jan 20, 2013
idgaf wrote:
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Looks like my dog ...
better that than your spouse
Asian Guy

Valley Stream, NY

#47442 Jan 20, 2013
I went to an Israeli forum and they were saying things like how Christianity teaching Jews to love Gentiles didn't make sense and that Jesus was in Hell with Hussein and Hitler...there goes my support.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#47443 Jan 20, 2013
Asian Guy wrote:
I went to an Israeli forum and they were saying things like how Christianity teaching Jews to love Gentiles didn't make sense and that Jesus was in Hell with Hussein and Hitler...there goes my support.
http://blogiverstravels.files.wordpress.com/2...
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#47444 Jan 20, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Piers is habitually uncouth. Dont know why the right wing bothers to give him more influence than he really has.
Can't say I really enjoy his show.

Then again I didn't watch Larry King either.

I still miss that lefty Phil Donahue!

Seriously though - Charlie Rose is pretty good.
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#47445 Jan 20, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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That could be construed as inciting violence.
It could be be. But I think it would be a stretch.

Are you into political correctness?

You don't strike me that way.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#47446 Jan 20, 2013
How to buy a fake girlfriend

With everyone talking about online deception, we take a look at men who hire online girlfriends

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/20/how_to_buy_a_...
idgaf

Tewksbury, MA

#47447 Jan 20, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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better that than your spouse
I'll have you know that my dog is one cute puppy. My spouse is a good looking lady too. Hahahhah
idgaf

Tewksbury, MA

#47448 Jan 20, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
In all honestly, I immediately regretted my post that you were almost there. It sounded arrogant, even if that wasnt the intent.
GOd in a glass? interesting idea for an experiment. My way around that is to borrow from the panenetheistic point of view. That way, God is not only in the glass, but god is the glass itself. Problem solved.
It's hard to tell the difference between arrogance and simple stupidity, you're not there yet. We write stuff we don't intend to sometimes. Happens to me all the time.

God in a glass/cube can be tested by raising a child in isolation through full growth. No languages, no religions, no numbers. Pure isolation will most likely yield what the American Indians were or close to it. As long as the great conquistadores don't come and show him/her the errors of his/her way, I think we'd find that the child wouldn't know God. But then again, what if after 18 yrs in the cube, the kid immediately knows God and Jesus? Would be a good experiment, not very nice, but still a good experiment.

I bet we could learn a lot of things and possibly prove some things one way or the other.

I am still looking for someone to explain to me why Jesus didn't manifest Himself to the American Indians and to many others. Doesn't seem to be something that is written in the books. An all powerful God would have reached out to all. Pick Jesus and the Jews to tell the world he was here? I probably have this all mixed up. The catholic religion?

Things to ponder. What if there is no God? What if the stories we read were tainted with man's self-interests? If there is a God, do we expect Him/Her to be like us?

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