As Stefano said, the 600-700 figure for the Quraizah Massacre comes from Muslim sources. Historians put the figure at closer to 900. And that was but one incident. How many Medinans?<quoted text>
Yes I know you will not believe it, but the figure of 1000 is very correct and each and every one has been counted in.
Number of persons killed in BANI QURAIZAH incident was between 430-450 and that was the Single Biggest case of killing in the life of prophet, otherwise the actual figure would be around 650!!
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#46352 Dec 30, 2012
How do you know that idiot did any such thing? did you witness him hanging up posters?
#46353 Dec 30, 2012
The death of Ibn Sunayna
Muhammad ordered all Jews killed. No reason other than they were Jews. Muhammad had worked up the ruthlessness in his followers to such an extent that the lemmings killed solely because ordered by Muhammad. Ibn Sunayna was a Jewish merchant who committed no other offense other than he was Jewish and in the wrong place at the wrong time. "Muhayyisa b. Mas`ud leapt upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him." When questioned by a companion why Muhayyisa had killed someone whom he owed his sustenance to, Muhayyisa said the reason was that Muhammad had ordered the death of all Jews and that was good enough for him. He would even kill the companion if ordered to by Muhammad.
Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 19, Number 2996:
#46354 Dec 30, 2012
It is then exactly as I have stated. The Islamists like you will settle for nothing short of total victory. You can't get it through the wars you started. So your people suffer do to the failure of their leaders to negotiate peace.
#46355 Dec 31, 2012
Once again you demonstrate you are incapable of looking at any side other than the side of political Islam.
I guess Arafat and later Abbas signing off on the Oslo Accords were "for camera" only.
#46356 Dec 31, 2012
We are the first to admit and acknowledge the ruthlessnes of some of the characters in our bible (of which I believe you, as a muslim, accept and revere).
Now, are you willing to admit the ruthfullness of yours?
By the way, it only takes one innocent death to be ruthless - so lets not get into a war about numbers.
#46357 Dec 31, 2012
Actually, the fact your prophet was a child molester and a pedophile is not the reason why I "reject" your version of Islam.
I "reject" Islam because its utility in our world is about equal to a malignant neoplasm.
#46362 Dec 31, 2012
Are you telling me that the following is incorrect:
"Book 19, Number 2996:
"The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: If you gain a victory over the men of Jews, kill them. So Muhayyisah jumped over Shubaybah, a man of the Jewish merchants. He had close relations with them. He then killed him. At that time Huwayyisah (brother of Muhayyisah) had not embraced Islam. He was older than Muhayyisah. When he killed him, Huwayyisah beat him and said: O enemy of Allah, I swear by Allah, you have a good deal of fat in your belly from his property."
What did this man do that he was killed?
#46363 Dec 31, 2012
Yes, please explain the way Muslims are treating the religious heads of St. Gabriel's.
#46364 Dec 31, 2012
Ok - I am all ears. Lets look at your previous post for an example of this...
Jeez, you are just full of love, arent you?
#46365 Dec 31, 2012
Ummm....All because I challenge your inacurracies and your lopsided rhetoric?
How about defending your prophet against the allegations that I have stated. Was he a pedophile/child molester or not? How old was his wife?
#46366 Dec 31, 2012
Its the only personality that I own, and I value it very much.
Why would I look to you for the worth of my personality?
I am striking your comment from the record on the basis of irrelevancy towards the subject matter at hand.
#46367 Dec 31, 2012
Muq - And by the way, as long as you egoistically* elevate your prophet here on this forum, it is only fair for the rest of us to critique and and/or sling potshots at that image.
(*I use the word "egoistically" because you appear to have an issue with admitting you are wrong. The only explanation I can offer for this behavior involves the ego.)
Since: May 12
#46368 Dec 31, 2012
What makes the muslim sources you use "More authentic" than other muslim sources?
Since: May 12
#46369 Dec 31, 2012
Which “Sword” the Prophet Used against his enemies: Part-21
Enemies of Islam represent our prophet as a very cruel and blood thirsty man, who would kill his “opponents, enemies and any one who disagreed with him” at “the drop of hat” and all his adversaries would be “terrified” at the mere sight of him. Let us see which "sword" he used.
Muhammad’s biographer Ibn Ishaq p. 464:
Then they surrendered, and the apostle confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of B. al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka`b b. Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the apostle they asked Ka`b what he thought would be done with them. He replied,‘Will you never understand? Don’t you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!’ This went on until the apostle made an end of them.
Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 38, 4390:
"Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi: I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair."
Ibn Ishaq, pag. 515, vedi anche Tabari vol. 8, pag 123:
"Kinana al-Rabi, who had the custody of the treasure of Banu Nadir, was brought to the apostle who asked him about it. He denied that he knew where it was. A Jew came (Tabari says "was brought"), to the apostle and said that he had seen Kinana going round a certain ruin every morning early. When the apostle said to Kinana, "Do you know that if we find you have it I shall kill you?" He said "Yes". The apostle gave orders that the ruin was to be excavated and some of the treasure was found. When he asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders to al-Zubayr Al-Awwam, "Torture him until you extract what he has." So he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad b. Maslama and he struck off his head, in revenge for his brother Mahmud."
Ishaq pag. 676:
"‘You obey a stranger who encourages you to murder for booty. You are greedy men. Is there no honor among you?’ Upon hearing those lines Muhammad said,‘Will no one rid me of this woman?’ Umayr, a zealous Muslim, decided to execute the Prophet’s wishes. That very night he crept into the writer’s home while she lay sleeping surrounded by her young children. There was one at her breast. Umayr removed the suckling babe and then plunged his sword into the poet. The next morning in the mosque, Muhammad, who was aware of the assassination, said,‘You have helped Allah and His Apostle.’ Umayr said.‘She had five sons; should I feel guilty?’‘No,’ the Prophet answered.‘Killing her was as meaningless as two goats butting heads.’”
Ah these enemies of Islam always ready to tell lie about this pious man.
#46370 Dec 31, 2012
Joining any religion , is like joining a gym.
there are many reasons why people join.
Many are signed up as kids, and just continue on.
Many, becouse they wanted to fit in somewhere.
No religion has ever gotten anyone to heaven.
Most people find the one true God, inside of a religious place, but many are talked into becomming a member, by another person.
The one true God came and woke me from my sleep , and later revieled to me, that He was Jesus Christ.
What one person can talk you into, another can tall you out of, but when you seal a deal with the one who died for you, then it is finished.
It is something so real, you can't be talked out of it.
I went from believing in no God, to becomming the child of the only living God.
Christ Jesus :)
#46371 Dec 31, 2012
rabbee: all religions today are an excuse to run away from G-D, and not feel lonely while doing it. as you seek the comfort of others running away from G-D, in the same idol direction as you.
and i think, you need to take another nap. since G-D would never declare, a fake name is G-D. as i fear you have been contacted, by the same misinformation angel as muhammed was. as HaShem G-D is very much opposed, to handing out j names according to all reliable scripture.
ps: and neither G-D nor i, have ever actually contacted you in even your wildest dreams. as i also reject the world, calling me their fake reign-dear names. as my contact with you, has been limited to these message boards.
#46372 Dec 31, 2012
* San Antonio Theater Shooting
Posted by Hardnox
On Sunday December 17, 2012, 2 days after the CT shooting, a man
went to a restaurant in San Antonio to kill his X-girlfriend. After he
shot her, most of the people in the restaurant fled next door to a
theater. The gunman followed them and entered the theater so he
could shoot more people. He started shooting and people in the
theater started running and screaming. It’s like the Aurora, CO
theater story plus a restaurant!
Now aren’t you wondering why this isn’t a lead story in the national
media along with the school shooting?
There was an off duty county deputy at the theater. SHE pulled out
her gun and shot the man 4 times before he had a chance to kill
anyone. So since this story makes the point that the best thing to
stop a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun, the media
is treating it like it never happened.
Only the local media covered it. The city is giving her a medal next
week. Just thought you’d like to know.
#46373 Dec 31, 2012
hard know and friends
This site is about:
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#46374 Dec 31, 2012
"So since this story makes the point that the best thing to stop a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun, the mediais treating it like it never happened..."
Or this story makes the point that there are so many guns floating around in society that we are forced to post armed guards outside movie theatres..
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