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US school shooting: Tearful Barack Obama calls for 'meaningful action'

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/

WASHINGTON: A tearful President Barack Obama said US leaders must "take meaningful action'' regardless of politics in response to the mass shooting at a Connecticut elementary school.

The president teared up, at times using an index finger to wipe at the corner of his eyes, as he addressed the nation from the White House. He also paused repeatedly as he struggled to keep his composure while speaking of the children, ages 5 to 10, who had died and the life milestones they now would miss.

He said, quote, "Our hearts are broken.''

Shortly before speaking, Obama ordered that US flags be flown at half-staff on public grounds through Tuesday.

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So now the "Recently elected Lame Duck President" has asked to take "Meaningful Response" on that school shooting Incident. Let us see different scenarios and the "Meaningful Response" that one could take:

A. The Killing was from a Missile or Bomb Attack from any Muslim country in the world:

Meaningful Response:

Launch a full scale war on that country and bring it to "Middle ages" in four or five days. There is no limit on the response. Use any weapons, use Carpet Bombing…

B. The Killing was from a Missile attack or Bomb Attack but the country was Isreal:

Meaningful Response:

It must have been a mistake, otherwise USA never expects that a "friendly nation" like Isreal would do such a heinous crime.

President of USA has "personally asked" the HE the President of Isreal to issue a "written and signed apology" that such an incident shall never be repeated in future. And Israel planes and Missiles shall not treat USA as an "enemy country".

They should plan and execute their "training missions" in so many Non Civilized countries in their neighborhood.

C. The Killing was done by members of any Islamic group:

Meaningful Response:

Impose an "immediate ban" on that Group, and arrest all its members, launch a "punitive Air Strikes" against is head quarters in any country it would be.

Send all the arrested persons to GITMO camp, so they be nor covered any US or International law and hold them captive till they die or commit suicide.

D. The Killing is done by Members of any Extremist Jewish or Christian Group:

Meaningful Response:

The President has "personally asked" US Surgeon General to send a team of "Imminent Mental Doctors" to talk to these people and find out real reason of this "Extremist behaviour".

It is hoped that after an extensive session, most people would see the light and turn the corner and join the main stream.

E. The killing is done by a Single Person which has a Muslim sounding name:

Meaningful Response:

It is these Muslim Migrants who are spoiling our peaceful country. We should stop all immigration of Muslim people to USA. And those Muslims who are in USA must be kept under strict watch.

Their mosques and their assembly halls must be kept under surveillance round the clock.

And Govt. alone cannot do this job (because there are so many Muslims in USA), so we request our peaceful citizens to keep a watch on movement of these Muslims and take proper action or inform police in case they observe any "suspicious movements"….the dedicated numbers to take these calls are 91111 (1000 Lines)

F. If the killing was done by a Jewish or Christian sounding Person:

Meaningful Response:

This was a savage act by an Individual with a sick mentality. It is not the fault of our system. We are investigating as to what provoked such a "nice man" to take this "Extreme step".

We have sympathy to the family members of the accused person who lost one member of their family in such a painful manner.

May God have mercy on his soul, our Christian values tell us not to condemn the Criminal but the Crime…as Jesus said…..blah, blah, blah
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And the killings go on as usual, there have been so many incidents in the past, but they will be forgotten.

Only the ones in which any Muslim or Muslim organization was accused to be involved, would be played again and again , just like an old record.
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rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: do i or any one else, not really telling this story we are all here in really have a choice? every book i have ever read, the author determines what the charachters do and say.
however, the book/scroll we are here in, we only get to determine what we say but not what we do. and that is what, is known as free will. so therefore THE-AUTHOR determines what we do, by what we say and think.
so therefore, if we radically change our attitude. then our direction is also changed. so what this nation as a whole says, determines who we are commanded to support or not support. so that even if a minority, does not want to support Ysrael. only has a minimul effect on this nations support as a whole.
and so arab countries, do not support Ysrael because of their attitued against THE-AUTHOR of this story. and in fact they and the rest of this world, have no idea what TheStory we are here in is about. which is the cause of much confusion through diversity in the world.
so quite frankly we do as G-D commands of this world. even if our explaination, does not match why G-D is commanding us to do it. even if we do as, the agents of the devil says. it is still G-D, WHO gave to them their instructions. because of our bad attitude toward G-D. so as long as this world makes all the same mental errors then nothing is going to change for the good of this bad world. and have no idea, they are only hurting themselves with their bad attitude toward G-D.
Wordy way of saying "I don't know, the only one that knows is God"?
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former res wrote:
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Ok, shxt-for-brains, I hear you.
Lots of people work, but then they go home at night.
Why do you sound so angry all the time?
Even our president shed a tear yesterday. Did you?
You fell for that act?

What about the innocent children killed by his drones?
Did he cry for them?
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Frijoles wrote:
In case anyone is wondering where that came from - I recently saw an article titled something to the effect of "911 Truther now claims media controlled by government"
I guess our Volunteerist isnt the independent thinker he is all cracked up to be.
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Don't be foolish, you know the media gets government funds.
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The us media scrubs stories that the government doesn't like.
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Wordy way of saying "I don't know, the only one that knows is God"?
rabbee: you! could not, be more wrong. you obviously do not know, TheTorah, for being here in IT or TheG-D now giving it. G-D is in charge of all physical events, and we are only in charge of our mental event. so TheTorah continues, here in it whether you believe you are here in IT or not.
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You fell for that act?
What about the innocent children killed by his drones?
Did he cry for them?
rabbee: are you accusing this nations president for, having crocodile tears with ganing sympathy for the devil?

are you accusing this nations president, of being an idolitor? who is about to propose, even more idolitry to try and cure the idolity it causes only more of?

are you saying that this nations idoliterous president, is about to make our idolitry worse than before? resulting in even, worse massacres.

are you saying that all the idolitors in this nation, do not understand the effects of their own idolitry - no more or less than their president and congress?
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Voluntarist wrote:
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The us media scrubs stories that the government doesn't like.
In your religious adherence to 911 truthing media- do you realize the irony of your statement?

http://www.salon.com/2012/12/15/conservative_...
Drudge darling Alex Jones: Salon is government-funded

The 9/11 truther accuses the media of waging war against the Second Amendment -- and uncorks a wild new theory
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US school shooting: Tearful Barack Obama calls for 'meaningful action'
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/
A. The Killing was from a Missile or Bomb Attack from any Muslim country in the world:
Meaningful Response:
Launch a full scale war on that country and bring it to "Middle ages" in four or five days. There is no limit on the response. Use any weapons, use Carpet Bombing…
B. The Killing was from a Missile attack or Bomb Attack but the country was Isreal:
Meaningful Response:
It must have been a mistake, otherwise USA never expects that a "friendly nation" like Isreal would do such a heinous crime.
President of USA has "personally asked" the HE the President of Isreal to issue a "written and signed apology" that such an incident shall never be repeated in future. And Israel planes and Missiles shall not treat USA as an "enemy country".
They should plan and execute their "training missions" in so many Non Civilized countries in their neighborhood.
C. The Killing was done by members of any Islamic group:
Meaningful Response:
Impose an "immediate ban" on that Group, and arrest all its members, launch a "punitive Air Strikes" against is head quarters in any country it would be.
Send all the arrested persons to GITMO camp, so they be nor covered any US or International law and hold them captive till they die or commit suicide.
D. The Killing is done by Members of any Extremist Jewish or Christian Group:
Meaningful Response:
The President has "personally asked" US Surgeon General to send a team of "Imminent Mental Doctors" to talk to these people and find out real reason of this "Extremist behaviour".
It is hoped that after an extensive session, most people would see the light and turn the corner and join the main stream.
E. The killing is done by a Single Person which has a Muslim sounding name:
Meaningful Response:
It is these Muslim Migrants who are spoiling our peaceful country. We should stop all immigration of Muslim people to USA. And those Muslims who are in USA must be kept under strict watch.
Their mosques and their assembly halls must be kept under surveillance round the clock.
And Govt. alone cannot do this job (because there are so many Muslims in USA), so we request our peaceful citizens to keep a watch on movement of these Muslims and take proper action or inform police in case they observe any "suspicious movements"….the dedicated numbers to take these calls are 91111 (1000 Lines)
F. If the killing was done by a Jewish or Christian sounding Person:
Meaningful Response:
This was a savage act by an Individual with a sick mentality. It is not the fault of our system. We are investigating as to what provoked such a "nice man" to take this "Extreme step".
We have sympathy to the family members of the accused person who lost one member of their family in such a painful manner.
May God have mercy on his soul, our Christian values tell us not to condemn the Criminal but the Crime…as Jesus said…..blah, blah, blah
Only a dolt like you would equate a massacre of children with the fight against international terrorism.
Its ok - we wouldnt expect anything less from you.
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I think we have reached to the stage, where our posts are just "routine" questions and answers. Just for that sake.
It would be better if we "lay off" for some time.
You do realize you have yet to construct an original answer? Why are you concluding this now?
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C. Isreal as the ONLY ally:
I do not know what is the "trusted ally" Isreal is. Just criticize it on any issue and be ready to face the "torrent of Insults and taunts and abuses from your Most trusted Ally"!!
The ONLY thing is that you have been "programmed" to tolerate these verbal and other types of abuses from that ally.
After all this is give and take of keeping an ally, is it not. But in case of Israel is not give and take, but take and take and take and take!!
Poll: Americans still back Israel

Survey conducted in aftermath of IDF's Operation Pillar of Defense in Gaza finds that 50% of US citizens feel sympathy towards Israelis .

The survey, conducted by the Pew Research Center in early December in 50 states, found that 50% of Americans feel sympathy towards Israelis while only 10% were sympathetic to the Palestinians.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-432...
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MUQ wrote:
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I think we have reached to the stage, where our posts are just "routine" questions and answers. Just for that sake.
It would be better if we "lay off" for some time.
As long as you post inaccurate facts, I will be here to truth you.
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Voluntarist wrote:
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You fell for that act?
What about the innocent children killed by his drones?
Did he cry for them?
Are you pleased that he got Bin Ladden when Bush couldn't do it in 7 years?

He didn't intentionally kill children.

Do you see that difference?

Why are you never at an actual computer? Do you have a library card?
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The Magical World of Fake Holidays

http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2012/12/14/...

There are times when faking it might be better than the real thing.

Photographer Reiner Riedler’s series Fake Holidays, currently on view at Clerveaux-cité de l’image, examines the human obsession with artifice, specifically when it comes to travel and entertainment.

Riedler’s book, published by Moser Verlag, is filled with page after page of brightly colored examples of bizarre human behavior, including a variety of theme parks, replicas of cities in other cities, live-action role playing, and sex clubs.

The introduction gives a brief but fascinating overview of several predecessors to the theme park of today, reminding us that leisure, vacation, and recreation weren’t readily available until well into the 19th century.......
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Are you pleased that he got Bin Ladden when Bush couldn't do it in 7 years?
He didn't intentionally kill children.
Do you see that difference?
Why are you never at an actual computer? Do you have a library card?
Intent or no intent he is mum on the matter btw how do you know his intent?
I'm not "never in front of the computer "
Its questionable whether " he got bin laden" obviously he didn't get anyone, he wasn't there and he pretended he was watching it live.
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Intent or no intent he is mum on the matter btw how do you know his intent?
I'm not "never in front of the computer "
Its questionable whether " he got bin laden" obviously he didn't get anyone, he wasn't there and he pretended he was watching it live.
Last time I checked, Obama was the commander in chief. The buck stops there. He authorized it. He owned the operation.

Why do you always post from a smart phone? Dont you realize that this will make it easier for the Feds to track you?
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Only a dolt like you would equate a massacre of children with the fight against international terrorism.
Its ok - we wouldnt expect anything less from you.
rabbee: well they all, have their root cause in idolitry. and i am sure, they will propose more idolity, to treat symptoms that can't stop it.

congradulations united states, your idolitry is getting as bad as the muslems.
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rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: you! could not, be more wrong. you obviously do not know, TheTorah, for being here in IT or TheG-D now giving it. G-D is in charge of all physical events, and we are only in charge of our mental event. so TheTorah continues, here in it whether you believe you are here in IT or not.
Man just spit it out. Do you know or not? Your riddles and longwindedness is beyond hilarious at times.
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Urm Omma wrote:
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Man just spit it out. Do you know or not? Your riddles and longwindedness is beyond hilarious at times.
study harder
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Voluntarist wrote:
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Intent or no intent he is mum on the matter btw how do you know his intent?
I'm not "never in front of the computer "
Its questionable whether " he got bin laden" obviously he didn't get anyone, he wasn't there and he pretended he was watching it live.
It's a hell of a lot more clear that Bush didn't get Bin Laddin.

But it's also clear he invaded the wrong country and killed at least 10s of thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens.

I don't recall him apologizing for that.

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