Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#45581 Dec 14, 2012
former res wrote:
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(Though I'm still not clear on why he has a problem with the ethno relious thing - only that they existed before Judaisn hence it is not THEIR religion - right?) I feel my brain beginning to ache.
I have tried three times to compose a post to explain his view and I keep coming up confused as well.

What i have noticed is that atheists are important to him because they show that Jews are really an ethnic group (i.e. Not all Jews are Jews) BUT at the same token he doesnt believe in ethnicity.

At times he tries to promote the idea of Christian Jews to show us Jews are not correct.

Ultimately, to him God gives Jews their identity (the cooties thing), not Rabinnical law of matriarchy. Therefore us Jews are not really Jews anymore because we follow Rabbis. Allowing him to step in. Pure (true Scott) Jews are ordained not created by man.

Thats the best I can offer on that subject.
voluntarist

United States

#45582 Dec 14, 2012
former res wrote:
Unbelievable.
Newtown CT.
Per CBS News, 12:29 P.M>
Elementary school rampage: 27 dead, at least 14 kids
Gunman opens fire in K-4 school in Conn., leaving dozens dead; Suspect dead
2 shooters definitely a government job.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#45583 Dec 14, 2012
voluntarist wrote:
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Probably another mind control assassin.
there was possibly more than one shooter
press conference within the hour
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#45584 Dec 14, 2012
voluntarist wrote:
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2 shooters definitely a government job.
thats low. even for you

chances are you know someone who knows someone there

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#45585 Dec 14, 2012
former res wrote:
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I enjoy seeing his silly replies.
But life will go on just fine.
Yes, they can be quite entertaining. But I can also imagine his reaction to that (I believe you already made this observation):

voluntarist

United States

#45586 Dec 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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thats low. even for you
chances are you know someone who knows someone there
No, just the mo of the government, just like columbine.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#45587 Dec 14, 2012
former res wrote:
Unbelievable.
Newtown CT.
Per CBS News, 12:29 P.M>
Elementary school rampage: 27 dead, at least 14 kids
Gunman opens fire in K-4 school in Conn., leaving dozens dead; Suspect dead
My cousin has kids in that school district. Luckily, they are okay.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#45588 Dec 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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thats low. even for you
chances are you know someone who knows someone there
Facts aren't even out yet but the conspiracy mill is churning away. ATF is seriously disturbed, and that is NOT a hyperbolic statement.
former res

Broomall, PA

#45589 Dec 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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I have tried three times to compose a post to explain his view and I keep coming up confused as well.
What i have noticed is that atheists are important to him because they show that Jews are really an ethnic group (i.e. Not all Jews are Jews) BUT at the same token he doesnt believe in ethnicity.
At times he tries to promote the idea of Christian Jews to show us Jews are not correct.
Ultimately, to him God gives Jews their identity (the cooties thing), not Rabinnical law of matriarchy. Therefore us Jews are not really Jews anymore because we follow Rabbis. Allowing him to step in. Pure (true Scott) Jews are ordained not created by man.
Thats the best I can offer on that subject.
Perhaps as much clarity humanly possible to bring to this fellow's thinking.
former res

Broomall, PA

#45590 Dec 14, 2012
voluntarist wrote:
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2 shooters definitely a government job.
Did the Libertarinas rip out your heart when they gave you your decoder ring?
former res

Broomall, PA

#45591 Dec 14, 2012
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Yes, they can be quite entertaining. But I can also imagine his reaction to that (I believe you already made this observation):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =IWINtUCshxYXX
I love that clip!
voluntarist

United States

#45592 Dec 14, 2012
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Facts aren't even out yet but the conspiracy mill is churning away. ATF is seriously disturbed, and that is NOT a hyperbolic statement.
It's no coincidence that the government is gunning to ban guns.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#45593 Dec 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
And finally....
Evidence 1 is easy for him to find and to follow - he posts biblical quotes
Evidence 2 is a bit problematic. Because to assert it, he has to demonize Jewish people, and in the process make himself sound really silly.
Since it is obvious that Jews are not controlled by overlords, nor do we go around lying all the time, this creates congnitive dissonance. It takes mental and emotional energy for him to ignore this dissonance. Hence, he flies off the handle when you push him too much.
His outbursts are basically like the 2nd law of thermodynamics, energy naturally flows from a Higher State (Hughe keeping a straight face while experiencing and repressing cognitive dissonance) to a Lower State (yelling at us).
Being a repressed gay person doesnt help either.
Frijoles---Because to assert it, he has to demonize Jewish people, and in the process make himself sound really silly.

HughBe--- I look forward to the day when the Jewish people try LYING scums like you for crimes against humanity and deal with YOU and your ilk appropriately.

You are truly a lowlife.
former res

Broomall, PA

#45594 Dec 14, 2012
voluntarist wrote:
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It's no coincidence that the government is gunning to ban guns.
Do you think maybe "the queers" are also involved?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#45595 Dec 14, 2012
former res wrote:
Huggy
I accept your surrender on the items left unanswered.
There is no dishonor in admitting you have come up against a better man.
Remain shiny and radiant.
And, if you have weekends in Jamaica, have a good one!
former res
My dear Former as ALWAYS, I accept that you are FAR BETTER at talking BS. I shall respond to your nonsense in due course. The sheer CS of your posts and more so that of the chief of the order of MORONS, Frijoles, was just too much.

When you are reincarnated 1000 then you shall be able to ask me religious questions that I am not able to answer.

enjoy the weekend.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#45596 Dec 14, 2012
Cult of Reason wrote:
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100:1 odds it's all over Huggy's head.
Cunti, are you now a total IDIOT? It seems that way to me. It is my hope that I am wrong as I am not happy when I see bad things happen to DUMB animals.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#45598 Dec 14, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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Cunti, are you now a total IDIOT? It seems that way to me. It is my hope that I am wrong as I am not happy when I see bad things happen to DUMB animals.
Is that the best you've got? You disappoint me Huggy.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/files/...
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#45599 Dec 14, 2012
former res wrote:
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It sounds as though one Christian group is only a little less insulting to Jews than the other.
I get that he likes to say Jews can believe in JC. He wants to redefine what it means to be Jewish.
And that Jews don't own Judaism.
(Though I'm still not clear on why he has a problem with the ethno relious thing - only that they existed before Judaisn hence it is not THEIR religion - right?) I feel my brain beginning to ache.
Former---It sounds as though one Christian group is only a little less insulting to Jews than the other.

HughBe--- Do this. Select MANY Christian programmes and watch them and see where you find them insulting Jews. Report on your findings.

Then listen to the rabbis and THERE you shall hear HATE and INSULTS of Christianity, Muslims and goyim like YOU.

Frijoels and his rabbis collectively are EVIL. Over my many posts I have NOT been insulting Jews. I have been DEFENDING the IDENTITY of the Jewish people. An IDENTITY which the CORRUPT rabbis want to TWIST to fit their UNCLEAN agenda. Effectively these corrupt instruments of SATAN basically says to their Creator FO we shall define Jews the way we want to do.

Now do as the rabbis say to God.

rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#45600 Dec 14, 2012
voluntarist wrote:
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No, just the mo of the government, just like columbine.
rabbee: by the govenment mo, do you mean we the people? or they. our alleged as representatives?

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#45601 Dec 14, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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Former---It sounds as though one Christian group is only a little less insulting to Jews than the other.
HughBe--- Do this. Select MANY Christian programmes and watch them and see where you find them insulting Jews. Report on your findings.
Then listen to the rabbis and THERE you shall hear HATE and INSULTS of Christianity, Muslims and goyim like YOU.
Frijoels and his rabbis collectively are EVIL. Over my many posts I have NOT been insulting Jews. I have been DEFENDING the IDENTITY of the Jewish people. An IDENTITY which the CORRUPT rabbis want to TWIST to fit their UNCLEAN agenda. Effectively these corrupt instruments of SATAN basically says to their Creator FO we shall define Jews the way we want to do.
Now do as the rabbis say to God.
Insults to Judaism are inherent to xianity, going back to the Gospel of John. Basically the central problem of monotheism: if "we" are right, then "they" must be wrong.

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