Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44812 Dec 4, 2012
former res wrote:
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Is that like aiming for the evangelical vote in this country?
(Still in shock over 2004 election!)
And don't forget gay marriage and Ohio. 2004.
Yes, except imagine a country where the evangelicals are the majority due to coalition government.

Thats just one opinion. I still think that wanting some of these proposed settlements may also be a mainstream idea as well. Maybe not all the areas, but some. In the past, some of the areas being proposed were still in West Jerusalem (which technically speaking is still disputed, but really shouldnt be..). Fuzziness.

Note- that they also admit that the actual building is still months away -
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44813 Dec 4, 2012
former res wrote:
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Do you have any other noun meaning "people of the United States?"
Like for you, a "gay Jamcaican." LOL!!!
The problem with the gay Jamaican is that he doesnt get when I am humoring him, and when I am really taking a stand. He lost his filter. Probably to do with his evangelicism, I'd imagine.

Since: Aug 11

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#44814 Dec 4, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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The problem with the gay Jamaican is that he doesnt get when I am humoring him, and when I am really taking a stand. He lost his filter. Probably to do with his evangelicism, I'd imagine.
What do you expect from someone who's best argument for his beliefs is a well known logical fallacy.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44815 Dec 4, 2012
Cult of Reason wrote:
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What do you expect from someone who's best argument for his beliefs is a well known logical fallacy.
To be honest, I have no expectations. Its not I am aware of who I am posting with.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44816 Dec 4, 2012
oops - its not like I am unaware of who I am posting with.

sloppy editing
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#44818 Dec 4, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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Then list away. Cut out the middle man. Have the conversation with yourself. Why are you bothering us?
Frijoles---Why are you bothering us?

HughBe--- As far as I am aware I am speaking to ONE person called Frijoles. I was not aware that I was speaking to legions of beings. How many legions of beings are in YOU?

I am still intersted in learning YOUR definition of ethnicity. You certainly like to talk about Christians and Muslims as NOT being ethnic groups and so I want to know your personal concept of it. What are the elements that YOU had in mind when you spoke?

Anotheroutstanding matter--

Frijoles---A majority of AMERICANS say that if the country goes over the fiscal cliff on Dec. 31, congressional Republicans should bear the brunt of the blame

HughBe--- Thanks for the quote. Who are the Americans in your quote? Are YOU an American?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#44819 Dec 4, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have any other noun meaning "people of the United States?"
Like for you, a "gay Jamcaican." LOL!!!
Frijoles---A majority of AMERICANS say that if the country goes over the fiscal cliff on Dec. 31, congressional Republicans should bear the brunt of the blame

HughBe--- Thanks for the quote. Who are the Americans in your quote? Are YOU an American?

Former--Do you have any other noun meaning "people of the United States?"

HughBe--- Thank you for your input. Ask your man, Frijoles.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#44820 Dec 4, 2012
"Herd mentality describes how people are influenced by their peers to adopt certain behaviors, follow trends, and/or purchase items. Former---Examples of the herd mentality include stock market trends, fashions in apparel, cars, taste in music, superstition, religion, home d├ęcor, etc. Social psychologists study the related topics of group intelligence, crowd wisdom, and decentralized decision making."

HughBe--- I do NOT follow others. I am an INDEPENDENT thinker.

Former--Do either of us sound like someone with a god?

HughBe--- Yes it is called STUPIDITY/self.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#44821 Dec 4, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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Are you a Christian?
Who is a Christian?
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44822 Dec 4, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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\Frijoles---A majority of AMERICANS say that if the country goes over the fiscal cliff on Dec. 31, congressional Republicans should bear the brunt of the blame
HughBe--- Thanks for the quote. Who are the Americans in your quote? Are YOU an American?
Go read the article, and find the answer yourself. Dont be lazy - I know its tempting.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44823 Dec 4, 2012
An ethnic group is a group of people whose members are identified through a common trait. This can, but does not have to, include an idea of common heritage, a common culture, a shared language or dialect.[1] The group's ethos or ideology may also stress common ancestry and religion, as opposed to an ethnic minority group which refers to race.[2][3][4][5] The process that results in the emergence of an ethnicity is called ethnogenesis. Some ethnic groups are marked by little more than a common name.

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An ethnoreligious group (or ethno-religious group)

is an ethnic group of people whose members are also unified by a common religious background. Ethnoreligious communities define their ethnic identity neither exclusively by ancestral heritage nor simply by religious affiliation, but often through a combination of both[citation needed](a long shared history; a cultural tradition of its own; either a common geographical origin, or descent from a small number of common ancestors; a common language, not necessarily peculiar to the group; a common literature peculiar to the group; a common religion different from that of neighbouring groups; being a minority or being an oppressed or a dominant group within a larger community).[citation needed]

Examples of ethnic groups defined by ancestral religions are the Jews, the Druze of the Levant, the Copts of Egypt, the Yazidi of northern Iraq, the Zoroastrians of Iran and India, and the Serer of Senegal, the Gambia and Mauritania.[1]

In an ethnoreligious group, particular emphasis is placed upon religious endogamy, and the concurrent discouragement of interfaith marriages or intercourse, as a means of preserving the stability and historical longevity of the community and culture.[citation needed] This adherence to religious endogamy can also, in some instances, be tied to ethnic nationalism if the ethnoreligious group possesses a historical base in a specific region.[citation

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Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44824 Dec 4, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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Who is a Christian?
And you give me sht about American?

You are truely a "Coward for Christ"
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#44825 Dec 4, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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Go read the article, and find the answer yourself. Dont be lazy - I know its tempting.
Are you really telling me that as an American YOU are unable to tell someone about the country of your birth?

Why do you not know about US/Americans?

Why don't you know what it is to be an American?

Surely you must have been badly treated there and perhaps an attempt was made to LYNCH you in America.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#44826 Dec 4, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
An ethnic group is a group of people whose members are identified through a common trait. This can, but does not have to, include an idea of common heritage, a common culture, a shared language or dialect.[1] The group's ethos or ideology may also stress common ancestry and religion, as opposed to an ethnic minority group which refers to race.[2][3][4][5] The process that results in the emergence of an ethnicity is called ethnogenesis. Some ethnic groups are marked by little more than a common name.
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An ethnoreligious group (or ethno-religious group)
is an ethnic group of people whose members are also unified by a common religious background. Ethnoreligious communities define their ethnic identity neither exclusively by ancestral heritage nor simply by religious affiliation, but often through a combination of both[citation needed](a long shared history; a cultural tradition of its own; either a common geographical origin, or descent from a small number of common ancestors; a common language, not necessarily peculiar to the group; a common literature peculiar to the group; a common religion different from that of neighbouring groups; being a minority or being an oppressed or a dominant group within a larger community).[citation needed]
Examples of ethnic groups defined by ancestral religions are the Jews, the Druze of the Levant, the Copts of Egypt, the Yazidi of northern Iraq, the Zoroastrians of Iran and India, and the Serer of Senegal, the Gambia and Mauritania.[1]
In an ethnoreligious group, particular emphasis is placed upon religious endogamy, and the concurrent discouragement of interfaith marriages or intercourse, as a means of preserving the stability and historical longevity of the community and culture.[citation needed] This adherence to religious endogamy can also, in some instances, be tied to ethnic nationalism if the ethnoreligious group possesses a historical base in a specific region.[citation
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give me your own ideas in your own words.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#44827 Dec 4, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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And you give me sht about American?
You are truely a "Coward for Christ"
Here is the difference, I am NOT offend if someone calls me a Christian. YOU have a problem with being called an American. I have HISTORY on my side to support this.

Understand this, a particular word may mean different things to different people.

Take for example the word JEW. The WHOLE world knows who is a Jew but your masters/ rabbis have a TWISTED idea and definition of it.
The private definition of rabbis helps them to MONOPOLIZE and ENSLAVE the Jewish people.

Did Hitler murder ONLY Jews who were religious NUTS like YOU and your rabbis? NO.

Did he ask them if they were observing the BS of the rabbis? NO.

A Jew is a Jew and was treated accordingly, by him.

Get it?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#44829 Dec 4, 2012
Frijoles,

HughBe--When you speak about don't care, who are the WE? Is it Americans? Is it Judaites?

Frijoles---A majority of AMERICANS say that if the country goes over the fiscal cliff on Dec. 31, congressional Republicans should bear the brunt of the blame

HughBe--- Thanks for the quote. Who are the Americans in your quote? Are YOU an American?
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44831 Dec 4, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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Here is the difference, I am NOT offend if someone calls me a Christian. YOU have a problem with being called an American. I have HISTORY on my side to support this.
straw argument. You seem to be the only person on this forum who still wonders what my nationality is.
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Understand this, a particular word may mean different things to different people.
Take for example the word JEW. The WHOLE world knows who is a Jew but your masters/ rabbis have a TWISTED idea and definition of it.
The private definition of rabbis helps them to MONOPOLIZE and ENSLAVE the Jewish people.
\

I guess you are not looking for Hannukah presents this year
HughBe wrote:
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Did Hitler murder ONLY Jews who were religious NUTS like YOU and your rabbis? NO.
Did he ask them if they were observing the BS of the rabbis? NO.
A Jew is a Jew and was treated accordingly, by him.
Get it?
Actually, I dont get you. Never have. Your notions and definitions are odd, to put it mildly. Offensive, to put it strongly.
former res

Broomall, PA

#44832 Dec 4, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, except imagine a country where the evangelicals are the majority due to coalition government.
Thats just one opinion. I still think that wanting some of these proposed settlements may also be a mainstream idea as well. Maybe not all the areas, but some. In the past, some of the areas being proposed were still in West Jerusalem (which technically speaking is still disputed, but really shouldnt be..). Fuzziness.
Note- that they also admit that the actual building is still months away -
No to get too technical, but would that be majority or a plurality?

"A majority is a subset of a set consisting of more than half of the set's elements. This can be compared to a plurality, which is a subset larger than any other subset considered; i.e. a plurality is not necessarily a majority as the largest subset considered may consist of less than half the set's elements."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority
former res

Broomall, PA

#44833 Dec 4, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem with the gay Jamaican is that he doesnt get when I am humoring him, and when I am really taking a stand. He lost his filter. Probably to do with his evangelicism, I'd imagine.
Yes I understand those bible thumpers to be a very intolerant people, not open to new ideas or anyone who engages in independent thinking.

Too bad for them.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44834 Dec 4, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
No to get too technical, but would that be majority or a plurality?
"A majority is a subset of a set consisting of more than half of the set's elements. This can be compared to a plurality, which is a subset larger than any other subset considered; i.e. a plurality is not necessarily a majority as the largest subset considered may consist of less than half the set's elements."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority
Ok - if there are 51 people
Party A: 20 people: believes in Red
Party B: 20 People: believes in Brown
Party C: 1 person: Believes in Orange

"Majority" Coalition is A + C
"Minority" coalition is B

Coalition A now advocates for Orange, and to a lesser extent Red and never Brown

How would you describe that?

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