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HughBe

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Nov 29, 2012
 
Frijoles wrote:
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You are very tiring.
We have explained this already. Please develop new material.
You are self-deceiving. Leave your man-made misguided religion and embrace the WAY of the Lord.

When the Jewish encyclopedia spoke about the RACIAL origins of Jews and about the shape of their noses etc what does it mean?

Is it talking about JUDAISM?
Bernie Madoff

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Nov 29, 2012
 
Kikeadoodledoo!
Frijoles

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You are self-deceiving. Leave your man-made misguided religion and embrace the WAY of the Lord.?
What does LORD have to with it? That word is not in my scripture either. Doth we live in a kingdom with knights?
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When the Jewish encyclopedia spoke about the RACIAL origins of Jews and about the shape of their noses etc what does it mean?
Is it talking about JUDAISM?
I think they were talking about the genetic origins. If they used the term race it was a poor choice, or an outdated choice, of words. They should repent.

Should we worship the Jewish encylopedia?

Encyclopedias are so last century. Do you read Readers Digest too?
HughBe

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Nov 29, 2012
 
1.Judaism is basically IDOLATRY where the rabbis are esteemed or elevated ABOVE God and so their words are MORE important than the words of God.

PROOF from My Jewish Learning.
"The Talmud OUTSTRIPS even the Bible in influence and importance. Explicating and building upon the Torah's laws, stories, and ideas, the Talmud also lay the groundwork for new religious sensibilities that stressed scholarship and were attuned to the needs of the Jews in the Diaspora."

2.Fact God calls Israel Israel throughout their rejection of Him but men/rabbis for their own GAIN seek to MONOPOLIZE and DOMINATE the lives of the Jewish people. The rabbis overrule the words of God and they also DISOBEY His commandments e.g. DON'T ADD to what has been commanded. They LIE, as is their manner, and fabricate ORAL laws.

Listen to what YOUR bible says. Joshua 8:35 "There was NOT A word of ALL that Moses commanded, which Joshua READ NOT before all the congregation of Israel"

Do you understand ALL and NOT A WORD? It means that he read ALL Moses that commanded. If this is TRUE then there are no ORAL laws. It is a LIE to deceive and CONTROL.
Frijoles

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Nov 29, 2012
 
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Now, how does that change the RACE of a person? are all Christians of the same RACE, Einstein? Jews are are RACE. That is why DNA tests are done on some African tribes and others to know if they have JEWISH blood. The tests are not done to determine RELIGION.
The emphansis by JEWS on descent meaning who descended from Abraham et.al is ALL about RACE you MORON. It has NOTHING to do with RELIGION.
we already covered all of that. Re: race, ethnoreligious group, yada yada yafa

you might need an enema
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Recall that just recently Eric, the Jew, said that the patriarchs ONLY observed the 7 Noahide principles. In other words they lived like Gentiles in religion. So what the heck are you talking about ?
The link to the Patriarchs is therefore RACIAL and NOT religious.
GO study it.
genetics trump all

Thats why you are probably more related to the native-Americans than the Huns and Goths whose religion you aquiesced to.
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Nov 29, 2012
 
Anyone want to invest some money on a sure thing? C'mon I know how greedy and tight you are and you love a sure thing.
Frijoles

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I couldn't agree with the premise that Congress shall make no law when I don't believe in Congress, another fiction, that would be disingenuous.
Did they find water on your planet yet?
HughBe

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Frijoles wrote:
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What does LORD have to with it? That word is not in my scripture either. Doth we live in a kingdom with knights?
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I think they were talking about the genetic origins. If they used the term race it was a poor choice, or an outdated choice, of words. They should repent.
Should we worship the Jewish encylopedia?
Encyclopedias are so last century. Do you read Readers Digest too?
What is genealogy about? Is it about religion?

Why are DNA tests being done on various persons? Is it about religion?

What do Jews mean when they speak about the patriarchs Abraham etc.?

Look here Frijoles, switch to a topic that you are more competent in. Try your favourie one. You are at sea in the current discussion and apart from self-deception you are having conceptual challenges.
Voluntarist

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The last time mankind had no government, I believe they were still living in caves. Thanks for reminding us how much on the fringe you are. I was wrong to call you a child. Even children have some common sense.
You are a hypocrite, asking for facts proving that government exists and you don't have any.
Aren't you just as guilty as those that believe in God?
HughBe

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we already covered all of that. Re: race, ethnoreligious group, yada yada yafa
you might need an enema
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genetics trump all
Thats why you are probably more related to the native-Americans than the Huns and Goths whose religion you aquiesced to.
we have covered it but have NOT understood it, in part because of stupidity and in part because the words of your masters are more valuable to you than those of God.

FACT---God called JEWS Jews when they did NOT worship Him.

I have outlined and PROVEN my point. ONLY a total ASS/ a DECEIVED person don't get it.

enough
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What evidence of gov't would you accept?
There is nothing in physical existence is there ?
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Anyone who wants to impose their beliefs on me in anyway whatsoever.
Not interested in having my beliefs imposed on you, you are a nutty bill maher fan.
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Did they find water on your planet yet?
Yes and they also spotted your fat ass through a telescope.
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we have covered it but have NOT understood it, in part because of stupidity and in part because the words of your masters are more valuable to you than those of God.
FACT---God called JEWS Jews when they did NOT worship Him.
I have outlined and PROVEN my point. ONLY a total ASS/ a DECEIVED person don't get it.
enough
Relax.

Get a boyfriend.
Frijoles

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What is genealogy about? Is it about religion?
Why are DNA tests being done on various persons? Is it about religion?
What do Jews mean when they speak about the patriarchs Abraham etc.?
Look here Frijoles, switch to a topic that you are more competent in. Try your favourie one. You are at sea in the current discussion and apart from self-deception you are having conceptual challenges.
Now you are just rambling.

Let us know when you have something to say.
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Let me explain it to you, Eric. YOU have the AUDACITY to deny that your sister is a JEW. That is the EVIL because it is a LIE and it originated with Satan.
It is a reality that she embraces Jesus, the Jew, as her Messiah but this does NOT take away from her IDENTITY which is INDEPENDENT of any COVENANT or laws of God. See my many previous posts on the matter.
Do you understand the FACT that God made a covenant with a people called JEWS and so these people must have had a JEWISH IDENTITY? Hopefully it is NOW clear to you that the covenant did not give them the Jewish IDENTITY?
Why are new things such a challenge for you to learn?
Your sister can TRUTHFULLY say that she is descended from the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and so on and that is BIOLOGY which YOU cannot change. The truth is GOD does not deny her of her Jewish IDENTITY so who the material are YOU?
Do you only have DUNCES and decivers for teachers/rabbis?
I ask you again, have you discussed this with her. I have. What is her opinion. Isn't her opinion the most important?
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There is nothing in physical existence is there ?
What do you consider physical?

People, places and things?

They certainly exist.

Many idealists would say our gov't mainly exists as an idea, a way of life, a set of values.

What does it mean to you?
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Not interested in having my beliefs imposed on you, you are a nutty bill maher fan.
Ahh, but you do.

You want me to help pay for platfoms from which to display your nativity scenes.

I don't wish to participate.

Yes, I do enjoy and appreciate Bill Maher, Jon Stewart and Colbert. Also watch "The Soup" on E! Funny stuff.
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What do you consider physical?
People, places and things?
They certainly exist.
Many idealists would say our gov't mainly exists as an idea, a way of life, a set of values.
What does it mean to you?
So government is an idea, a way of life. Something you believe in you certainly believe in the political process, but it doesn't exist beyond an idea, so how is that any different than believing in God and/or the Bible?
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Ahh, but you do.
You want me to help pay for platfoms from which to display your nativity scenes.
I don't wish to participate.
Yes, I do enjoy and appreciate Bill Maher, Jon Stewart and Colbert. Also watch "The Soup" on E! Funny stuff.
I'm not asking you to pay for anything and I am the last Guy to build a nativity scene, so should Halloween be removed from the school?

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