Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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What am I missing about his point of view?
Does he not see the ethnic piece?

He is purposely trying to dilute the Jewish brand. Just an envangelical strategy.

[HughBe]

Frijoles wrote:

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He is purposely trying to dilute the Jewish brand. Just an envangelical strategy.

How so? YOU and your masters promote LIES and DECEPTION and IMPRISION the minds of the Jewish people.

All I say is that a Jew is a Jew regardless of any belief or lack thereof and this is supported by SCRIPTURES. But alas the words of your masters are more important than that of God or scriptures.

Your deceptive and LYING masters think too much of themselves and DARE to think that they can overrule the words of God. They the god-men of Judaism ABROGATE the words of God by their own fabricated LYING, IDIOTIC teachings.

[HughBe]

former res wrote:

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Same same same.
Ethnically, yes - still a Jew.
But Christianity is not Judaism.
Can you relate to that?

Former---Ethnically, yes - still a Jew.

HughBe--- So what is your problem? I am sure BIOLOGICALLY or RACIALLY a Jew is still a Jew. Ethnicty is more expansive.

Former---But Christianity is not Judaism.

HughBe--- Who said it was? Are you hearing voices?

Now change the fact that JEWS started Christianity.

Change the FACT that JEWS are CENTRAL to Christianity starting with Moses and ALL the prophets and JESUS, the CHRIST and the apostles.

Change these FACTS or as is the manner of some "CORRECT" them.

NEXT.

[HughBe]

Eric wrote:

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Then do it. Don't ask me to prove anything if that's your attitude.

Based on your intent are YOU an American or an Israeli?

[HughBe]

Frijoles wrote:

chuckle
Did you like the pic I posted of master Hughbe?

too ugly.

Are YOU an American or an Israeli/Israelite?

[Frijoles]

HughBe wrote:

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Former---Ethnically, yes - still a Jew.
HughBe--- So what is your problem? I am sure BIOLOGICALLY or RACIALLY a Jew is still a Jew. Ethnicty is more expansive.
Former---But Christianity is not Judaism.
HughBe--- Who said it was? Are you hearing voices?
Now change the fact that JEWS started Christianity.
Change the FACT that JEWS are CENTRAL to Christianity starting with Moses and ALL the prophets and JESUS, the CHRIST and the apostles.
Change these FACTS or as is the manner of some "CORRECT" them.
NEXT.

Weak. We all know that the early Christians were originally Jews. Thats not News.

We also know that today one is either a Christian or a Jew in religion.

[Frijoles]

HughBe wrote:

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How so? YOU and your masters promote LIES and DECEPTION and IMPRISION the minds of the Jewish people.
All I say is that a Jew is a Jew regardless of any belief or lack thereof and this is supported by SCRIPTURES. But alas the words of your masters are more important than that of God or scriptures.
Your deceptive and LYING masters think too much of themselves and DARE to think that they can overrule the words of God. They the god-men of Judaism ABROGATE the words of God by their own fabricated LYING, IDIOTIC teachings.

Supported by your scriptures. Not ours.

Thank you for sharing your religious beliefs.

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

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I envision him pursuing people like that with his speeches about Jews.
Hughbe is reasonably intelligent. His views are ideologically constricted. So I am sure he gets the point, but his personal religion forbids him to acknowledge that publically.
You do know he claims to have Jewish ancestry? But I would have to bet his actual interaction with real live Jews (i.e. relatives) is zippo as they wouldnt put up with his nonsense. So he lives in a bubble and forgets how wildly outlandishly nonappropriate his views are to the viewing public. Kind of like a FOx news bubble.
He is purposely trying to dilute the Jewish brand. Just an envangelical strategy.

yeah I could see him blasting away at folks like that, possibly on a soap box in Hyde Park, London - or on a stump in Jamaica.

I wonder if her agrees tha sammy davis converted to Judaism?

I do recall that. So Huggy is ethnically Jewish but Chirstian in his beliefs. The opposite of Sammy Davis, Jr.

Seems he wants to redefine what it means to be Jewish. I guess it's what his religion tells me to do.

The tail wagging the dog. Too bad.

"While in the hospital,[Sammy} Davis' friend, performer Eddie Cantor, told him about the similarities between the Jewish and black cultures. Prompted by this conversation, Davis—who was born to a Catholic mother and Protestant father—began studying the history of Jews. He converted to Judaism several years later."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Davis,_Jr....

[Eric]

HughBe wrote:

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Based on your intent are YOU an American or an Israeli?

I already answered that. Scroll back.

[former res]

HughBe wrote:

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HughBe--- So what is your problem? I am sure BIOLOGICALLY or RACIALLY a Jew is still a Jew. Ethnicty is more expansive.

Whatever. Call it what hou will. I guess we agree on this part.

HughBe wrote:

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Now change the fact that JEWS started Christianity.
Change the FACT that JEWS are CENTRAL to Christianity starting with Moses and ALL the prophets and JESUS, the CHRIST and the apostles.

Riddle me this: How could Christians have "started Christianity" when heretofore, Christ did not exist?

Was Ben Franklin born wearing bifocals? Using electricty? Serving as postmaster general?

Or did all of this occur later, during his adult lifetime?

Was John Smith born a Morman? Is there anyway he could have been?

Could Protestants have existed prior to Christianity?

You make no sense.

[HughBe]

Frijoles wrote:

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Weak. We all know that the early Christians were originally Jews. Thats not News.
We also know that today one is either a Christian or a Jew in religion.

Frijoles---We also know that today one is either a Christian or a Jew in religion.

HughBe--- says the god-men of Judaism. TRUTH says otherwise. Being Jewish is BIOLOGY it has NEVER been anything more. Being Indian etc. is BIOLOGY it has NEVER been anything more. Religious beliefs and covenants are another matter.

Why don't you use DNA testing to determine the religious beliefs and hence who is a Jew?

[HughBe]

Frijoles wrote:

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Supported by your scriptures. Not ours.
Thank you for sharing your religious beliefs.

LIAR. I used "OUR" translation and DEMONSTRATED that God Almighty called them Jews even when they REJECTED Him. See Jeremiah 44 and many many others in OUR scriptures.

Note, I am not including your TALMUD scriptures.

[HughBe]

Eric wrote:

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I already answered that. Scroll back.

You said Yankee. Who is a Yankee? Give ALL the meanings of Yankee.

I asked you, are YOU an American or an Israeli? Choose one and stop playing with yourself.

[HughBe]

Eric wrote:

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I already answered that. Scroll back.

Sorry my previous comment was for Frijoles.

Now this is for you. Based on your INTENT are YOU an American or an Israeli or Israelite?

[HughBe]

former res wrote:

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Whatever. Call it what hou will. I guess we agree on this part.
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Riddle me this: How could Christians have "started Christianity" when heretofore, Christ did not exist?
Was Ben Franklin born wearing bifocals? Using electricty? Serving as postmaster general?
Or did all of this occur later, during his adult lifetime?
Was John Smith born a Morman? Is there anyway he could have been?
Could Protestants have existed prior to Christianity?
You make no sense.

Former---You make no sense

HughBe--- I understand , dear. My points remain as follows--

JEWS started Christianity.
JEWS are CENTRAL to Christianity starting with Moses and ALL the prophets and JESUS, the CHRIST and the apostles

Go ahead and CORRECT history.

[Frijoles]

HughBe wrote:

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You said Yankee. Who is a Yankee? Give ALL the meanings of Yankee.
I asked you, are YOU an American or an Israeli? Choose one and stop playing with yourself.

No, I said Yankee.

Eric is no Yankee. He lives in Illonois, for G-ds sake.

Didnt you ever read Mark Twain in school?

[Frijoles]

HughBe wrote:

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LIAR. I used "OUR" translation and DEMONSTRATED that God Almighty called them Jews even when they REJECTED Him. See Jeremiah 44 and many many others in OUR scriptures.
Note, I am not including your TALMUD scriptures.

Again, thank you for sharing your religious beliefs and your religious interpretations.

As far as "ours" I might quote the holy man Tonto- "What do you mean, WE, white man?"

[former res]

HughBe wrote:

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too ugly.

What would be right amount of ugly to depict you?

:))

Seems as though you're only quibbling over a matter of degree.

[HughBe]

Frijoles wrote:

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No, I said Yankee.
Eric is no Yankee. He lives in Illonois, for G-ds sake.
Didnt you ever read Mark Twain in school?

You are having a problem calling yourself an American and that has been noted. Why not pack your bags and go?

You have also deceived yourself into thinking that you have outwitted me.

Your position is clear.

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

sorry if i am not, both your grandfather and grandmother any more. but where ever you are luke, i am your grandfather and everyone elses too. but this is not my decision to make here in TheStory of Creation again.

funny how G-D always sticks to physically giving THEIR OWN Scripture, meanwhile none of you mentally are here.

funny how G-D is always giving TheWhole Torah physically. and you all are and your grandmother, are all mentally showing off not here in IT thrice aaagain.