Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Frijoles

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Voluntarist wrote:
By concentrating power in cities this
group circumvents requirements for
ratification of international treaties
and gives the illusion of local control.
In fact the cities then ally in regional
conglomerates which break
jurisdictional boundaries and will
destroy local control. Ultimately this
facilitates global governance by
invalidating individual cities,
counties, states, and nations with
contractual agreements and
interwoven systems.
Interesting and all of that, but nowhere in the link I sent you does that state anything about cty control.

Straw argument.
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MUQ wrote:
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At least YOU have read it!!
So my readership count has gone up by one!!
Allow me to correct your post

"At least YOU have read it!!
So my readership count has gone up TO one!!.."
Frijoles

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By concentrating power in cities this
group circumvents requirements for
ratification of international treaties
and gives the illusion of local control.
In fact the cities then ally in regional
conglomerates which break
jurisdictional boundaries and will
destroy local control. Ultimately this
facilitates global governance by
invalidating individual cities,
counties, states, and nations with
contractual agreements and
interwoven systems.
and not only does the links say nothing about "city control" but your post demonstrates you have completely MISSED the point of the previous post of mine about what they mean by control.

Lets try again.

Control is not political control. You are substituting the notion of local centralized control for far away centralized control. Thats not what they mean by control.

What they mean is that by ridding themselves of a centralized far away control (dependence on industrialized agriculture), they now have the ABILITY to select from a larger pallette of opportunities. Its freedom.

I.E. Local producers are no longer beholden to the chemical pesticide industry to tell them what to plant.

Think of this with a metaphor from another industry - the energy industry. Does energy independence bring you MORE freedom or LESS freedom to make choices regarding what types of energry production you want?
Frijoles

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Good morning judging stalker!!!!

Did you say your morning prayers first?

Would you be intererested in joining my fan club? For a nominal fee I can send you a Tshirt and a button.
Frijoles

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Now it has gone upto TWO!!
keep on posting and counter will keep on ticking!!
Not really. I blow off you big posts . But I will read the 2 line exchanges.

Thank you for the judgements, by the way. All advertising is good advertising.
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JOEL PASTAKIA wrote:
JUDAISM = SATANISM:
" Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer - so I wasn't lying - and we are his chosen people. Lucifer is very much alive."
Harold Rosenthal
I thought that you were being absurd with the quote but based on my ckeck you are correct.

One correction to the quote, it should be JUDAITES or members of JUDAISM and not Jews. I hardly believe that secular Jews are into worship of any god. Here I am thinking about agnostics and atheists etc.
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I thought that you were being absurd with the quote but based on my ckeck you are correct.
One correction to the quote, it should be JUDAITES or members of JUDAISM and not Jews. I hardly believe that secular Jews are into worship of any god. Here I am thinking about agnostics and atheists etc.
No wonder your relatives disowned you.

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Give me an example of your last conversation with your doctor about nutrition.
I'll do you one better.

Attached link shows a graphic of various natural remedies or supplements to treat various medical conditions. The upper part of the page shows those with significant studies that corroborate their claims. The further down the page you go, the less evidence there is for their effectiveness.

http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/play/sn...
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and not only does the links say nothing about "city control" but your post demonstrates you have completely MISSED the point of the previous post of mine about what they mean by control.
Lets try again.
Control is not political control. You are substituting the notion of local centralized control for far away centralized control. Thats not what they mean by control.
What they mean is that by ridding themselves of a centralized far away control (dependence on industrialized agriculture), they now have the ABILITY to select from a larger pallette of opportunities. Its freedom.
I.E. Local producers are no longer beholden to the chemical pesticide industry to tell them what to plant.
Think of this with a metaphor from another industry - the energy industry. Does energy independence bring you MORE freedom or LESS freedom to make choices regarding what types of energry production you want?
A) The UN is a corrupt organization
B) Any of those words can be changed at any time and interpreted away just like the gun grabbers try to mutilate the 2nd Amendment.
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Frijoles wrote:
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and not only does the links say nothing about "city control" but your post demonstrates you have completely MISSED the point of the previous post of mine about what they mean by control.
Lets try again.
Control is not political control. You are substituting the notion of local centralized control for far away centralized control. Thats not what they mean by control.
What they mean is that by ridding themselves of a centralized far away control (dependence on industrialized agriculture), they now have the ABILITY to select from a larger pallette of opportunities. Its freedom.
I.E. Local producers are no longer beholden to the chemical pesticide industry to tell them what to plant.
Think of this with a metaphor from another industry - the energy industry. Does energy independence bring you MORE freedom or LESS freedom to make choices regarding what types of energry production you want?
Communitarianism
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I'll do you one better.
Attached link shows a graphic of various natural remedies or supplements to treat various medical conditions. The upper part of the page shows those with significant studies that corroborate their claims. The further down the page you go, the less evidence there is for their effectiveness.
http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/play/sn...
Does this same doctor urge you to get a flu shot?

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Does this same doctor urge you to get a flu shot?
Changing the topic again, I see.
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Does this same doctor urge you to get a flu shot?
classic

change the conversation
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A) The UN is a corrupt organization
B) Any of those words can be changed at any time and interpreted away just like the gun grabbers try to mutilate the 2nd Amendment.
Could care less

I only care that the subsection I linked to promotes organix food and deindustrialized agriculture, and that you promote the same, and that you REFUSE to even acknowledge that.

Thats your prerogative.

And is awfully pathetic. But then again, how else could you live in your head?
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Since you refuse to concede I will just declare victory and move on

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Moving on......

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Since you refuse to concede I will just declare victory and move on
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Moving on......
Add a point for me as well. Changing the topic counts as a default against ATF.
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Add a point for me as well. Changing the topic counts as a default against ATF.
I would have to agree with that.

Not to belabor my victory, but I wasnt even trying to one-up him.

More like I was curious if he ever bothered to actually read the Agenda21 doc he is always so adamantly against.
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Geez, my judging fan is hot on my tail.

I might even have to buy him a virtual lunch in a while out of appreciation for keeping me company and for recognition of his dillgence.

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I would have to agree with that.
Not to belabor my victory, but I wasnt even trying to one-up him.
More like I was curious if he ever bothered to actually read the Agenda21 doc he is always so adamantly against.
Looking at the source and critically analyzing it is above his pay grade. That's what the conspiracy sites are there for.

And if contradictions arise....change the topic.
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I couldnt get past the part where you are supposed to drink vinegar.
rabbee: why waist good wine, drink the wine. and let your system, turn it into vinegar.

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