Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

[former res]

Voluntarist wrote:

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You can be a collectivist all you want but why do you have to resort to violence for others to join your team?

Are you saying that you would like to be exempt from the laws of the land?

Should we all get to decide which rules we will follow and not follow?

How would that work with say, the flow of traffic?

Do I also get to help myself to your supply of firewood.

Or is that a type of law you have decided we should all follow?

Do you get to decide, or do we via majority vote get to decide?

How should this work, in you view?

[former res]

Voluntarist wrote:

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How did the majority agree? did you have a majority vote?

I belive in G'ch they have RTM and they do vote on this stuff.

Have you heard about the recent controversy over leaf blowers?

[JOEL PASTAKIA]

NOTE:

1) World War 3 approaches - the global elite, who have been staging every major event in the world in all walks of life since the past few centuries under direct instructions from their overlords of the adverse domains of the cosmic vital plane, are ready to unleash the mother-of-all-wars on humankind while they happily escape to their cosy subterranean lairs (DUMBS - Deep Underground Military Bases).

2) Nuclear weapons, weather modification technology, psychotronic warfare, EMP (electro-magnetic pulse) weapons and toxic bio-chemical mixtures will be widely used during the coming world war to wipe out around 90% of the world's population and thereafter there will ensue a major event in or around end of 2014/early 2015..... Watch out !

[former res]

Voluntarist wrote:

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I would rather pay for services that I choose to utilize.

You realize this doesn't work for everything.

Beach passes - yes.

Roads - no.

The gas tax is a good way to pay for roads.

Would you agree?

[former res]

JOEL PASTAKIA wrote:

REFRESHER:
1) Jews = Demon-worshipping, brainless, plagiaristic, uncultured, psychologically abnormal, criminal-minded and genetically distorted vermin who're heading for total destruction by 2016 or earlier.
2) JUDAISM = Demon-Worship.
3) YHVH/HASHEM = A Major Demon (a Baal/a Molech) of the Vital Plane of Cosmic Consciousness.
4) Abraham, Moses, Daniel and the other Hebrew patriarchs = Mass murdering, fanatical and animal and human sacrificing possessed sorcerers.

Like a clean, fresh breath of mountain air!

He lives in a country where people ride on top of the trains.

[JOEL PASTAKIA]

NOTES ALONG THE WAY:

1) Just returned after a profound spiritual rendezvous with the 250 year old great yogi, Barfani Baba (Google Barfani Baba), who lives in a charming ashram in Amarkantak, Madhya Pradesh.

2) i enjoyed my stay with Barfani Baba.

3) Subhash Chandra visited the Ashram during my stay.

4) i've returned recharged and with added insights into the mind-matter matrix and on life in general.

5) The secret behind Barfani Baba's conquest of death is vitalization and not supramentalization which is a far superior and a far more arduous yogic discipline than vitalization.

[JOEL PASTAKIA]

SUPRAMENTALIZATION of mind, vital, subtle physical, gross physical, subconscient and external matter is a radical process that far exceeds in scope, function and end-result the inferior discipline of VITALIZATION.

Yeah!

[JOEL PASTAKIA]

Pure Consciousness with its innate Energy component is the basis of Existence. Yeah!

[Frijoles]

NOTES ALONG THE WAY:

Ask us if we give a sht

[JOEL PASTAKIA]

Everything in existence is a graduated phenomenon of the manifested unified field of Pure Consciousness with its inherent Energy Component.

[former res]

Poopy head? Really? You just can't make this stuff up.
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Grover Norquist, founder and president of Americans For Tax Reform, has a new theory about why President Barack Obama won -- he portrayed Mitt Romney as a "poopy head."

"The president was committed; elected on the basis that he was not Romney and Romney was a poopy head and you should vote against Romney and he won by two points," Norquist said on CBS' "This Morning" Monday. "But he didn't make the case that we should have higher taxes and higher spending, he kind of sounded like the opposite."

Host Norah O'Donnell pushed back. "Well, I'm not sure that's what the president called Mitt Romney, Grover," she said. "That's not the debate that was had ... he said very clearly throughout the debate that the wealthiest Americans should pay more and he won eight of the nine battleground states and Republicans failed to reclaim the White House or the Senate."

"What about the exit polls that show a broad support for raising taxes on the wealthiest americans. Are you wrong?" she asked.

Norquist pointed to negative advertising against former GOP nominee Mitt Romney.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/12/grov...

[JOEL PASTAKIA]

Menage a trois with Nadine Anand and Nisha Singh at the classy Sea Lounge in the Taj Mahal Palace and Tower. Good night.

[former res]

George H. W. Bush
aka Bush 41
July 2012

“The rigidity of those pledges is something I don’t like,” Bush responded.“The circumstances change and you can’t be wedded to some formula by Grover Norquist. It’s -- who the hell is Grover Norquist, anyway?”

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

Poopy head? Really? You just can't make this stuff up.
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Grover Norquist, founder and president of Americans For Tax Reform, has a new theory about why President Barack Obama won -- he portrayed Mitt Romney as a "poopy head."
"The president was committed; elected on the basis that he was not Romney and Romney was a poopy head and you should vote against Romney and he won by two points," Norquist said on CBS' "This Morning" Monday. "But he didn't make the case that we should have higher taxes and higher spending, he kind of sounded like the opposite."
Host Norah O'Donnell pushed back. "Well, I'm not sure that's what the president called Mitt Romney, Grover," she said. "That's not the debate that was had ... he said very clearly throughout the debate that the wealthiest Americans should pay more and he won eight of the nine battleground states and Republicans failed to reclaim the White House or the Senate."
"What about the exit polls that show a broad support for raising taxes on the wealthiest americans. Are you wrong?" she asked.
Norquist pointed to negative advertising against former GOP nominee Mitt Romney.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/12/grov...

I like that phrase!

[Frijoles]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Norquist#...

Norquist has described himself as a "boring white bread Methodist."[54]

In 2004, at age 48, he married a Palestinian Muslim[34] named Samah Alrayyes,[55][56] a Kuwaiti PR specialist who was formerly a director of the Islamic Free Market Institute and specialist at the Bureau of Legislative and Public Affairs at United States Agency for International Development (USAID).[57][58] The couple has two children adopted from abroad.[59] Norquist is said to live a modest lifestyle. According to friend and former roommate John Fund, Norquist's devotion to his political causes is "monk-like" and comparable to that of Ralph Nader.[12]

Norquist has competed three times in the comedy fundraiser "Washington's Funniest Celebrity" and placed second in 2009.[60][61][62] Humorist P. J. O'Rourke has described Norquist as "Tom Paine crossed with Lee Atwater plus just a soupçon of Madame Defarge".[63]

[Frijoles]

The right has lost the culture war.

http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/1...

[Voluntarist]

former res wrote:

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You realize this doesn't work for everything.
Beach passes - yes.
Roads - no.
The gas tax is a good way to pay for roads.
Would you agree?

Why wouldn't a gas tax work? Maybe the government isn't the best custodian of gas tax.

[Voluntarist]

Frijoles wrote:

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Because it doesnt work that way.

It doesn't work that way because it can't work that way?

[Voluntarist]

Frijoles wrote:

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Focus.
Answer FRs question. What form of government do you prefer?

A volunteer society now answer the question, how does a fictitious entity vote?

[Voluntarist]

former res wrote:

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Are you saying that you would like to be exempt from the laws of the land?
Should we all get to decide which rules we will follow and not follow?
How would that work with say, the flow of traffic?
Do I also get to help myself to your supply of firewood.
Or is that a type of law you have decided we should all follow?
Do you get to decide, or do we via majority vote get to decide?
How should this work, in you view?

How could land enact laws?

If the government stuck to its purpose of protecting individual rights then we wouldn't have a problem.

See the study in that European city that removed all traffic signs.

Private property is the greatest natural right.

In s voluntary society we choose who to interact with.