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Employers can't create jobs without customers.
Customers who have money to spend.
This is why Obama cut taxes on 95% of Americans.
A stronger middle class is the answer.
Not Mittster's plan to reward the wealthy at the expense of the midddle class.
But then again, we don't really know the details of his plan, only that it adds up to a $5 tillion tax cut over 10 years with offsets yet (and now forever) unknown.
Former---Employers can't create jobs without customers.Customers who have money to spend.

HughBe--- very well said. You should sell these simple but yet profound concept to Mitty and company. well said.
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I never said returning to the Clinton-era tax rates for the upper 2% alone would solve our fiscal ills.
Only one part of a balanced approach.
rabbee: you ain't going to cure the disease, by treating the symptoms. sooner or later, you'll run out of fingers and toes to plug the dike.

this whole nation has got, a real problem with credit addictions. which is the result of some, non-reality mental illnesses. and robbing, your childrens and grandchildrens piggy bank. and just throwing more money, at a monetary addiction. only feeds, the beast.

to pay for your own good times, placing the burden on your children and their childrens children. is considered, a very grave sin. a sin of father's against, their childrens future. as stated in, ThePreamble of TheCommandments of G-D.

as any thing stated within ThePreamble, is of very serious consequences to violate. as the seriousness of TheCommandments, is stated in the very precise order of importance.

and what G-D is commanding to happen, right now here in TheTorah again. is a good indication of how mentally screwed up, we all are in denial. with not one religion on earth, being right about G-D today still giving TheTorah all physically happening.

your all just as wrong as i was, for the fourty one years. before the second encounter, with G-D i had. which is all verifiable, in TheTorah Scroll. in this first and second coming of Adam, which is happening exactly as stated in TheTorah. and so is actually happening just again, here and now in The Living Torah Happening.

in this world that cannot comprehend, neither me nor G-D here and now in TheTorah. because you have all been, indoctrinated by those same old subtle beasts of the fields. no different than the last time, G-D gave this same story with me and yo mama of all.
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Silly woman.
You mentioned Bush in connection with Matthews, not me.
You're not the only one.
I understand Karl Rove is also melting down over at Fox.
Bush's brain is imploding.(Oooops, i did it again!:)))
Yes you did :D. Also silly rabbit, you mentioned Katrina (codeword for Bush)
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Perhaps you need more fiber in your diet.
rabbee: and perhaps less fibber, in your die-it.
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former res wrote:
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Employers can't create jobs without customers.
Customers who have money to spend.
This is why Obama cut taxes on 95% of Americans.
A stronger middle class is the answer.
Not Mittster's plan to reward the wealthy at the expense of the midddle class.
But then again, we don't really know the details of his plan, only that it adds up to a $5 tillion tax cut over 10 years with offsets yet (and now forever) unknown.
kill the employers - that's the ticket. Many of the middle class ARE employers. Face it, 50.4 percent voted for abortions, gay marriage, pot, and free stuff.
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Former---Employers can't create jobs without customers.Customers who have money to spend.
HughBe--- very well said. You should sell these simple but yet profound concept to Mitty and company. well said.
rabbee: yes and wealthy employers, cannot create jobs. unless they have, the money to spend. and so we go round and round, the dillusion-berry bush. and one of the biggest employers, is the us-government today. which absorbs more tax money, than they pay in. likened unto, a pyramid scheme.

even the irs, consumes about one-third, of the revenue recieved. just to collect taxes, from all of you. as it is a very, non-proficient system of collecting taxes. unlike the sales tax, which is an extreemly proficient system of collecting taxes. which does not require, federal employees to collect taxes. since the compamies themselves, are requiered to do this. as any tax increase, is passed on to the consumers automaticly.

but if congress cannot cure, their spending addiction. even this trillion dollar savings, won't help. since they generally tend to us this, as an excuse to overspend even more.
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<quoted text>Yes you did :D. Also silly rabbit, you mentioned Katrina (codeword for Bush)
Ok - now you're being factual but not truthful.

I brought up Katrina/Bush to counter ANYONE (inc. Matthews) who suggested the hurricane itself helped Obama in the election.

NOT TO DEFEND Matthews' rant - which is what you suggested I meant.

I emphasized the response to the weather event rather than the event itself.

Sure it provided an opportunity for him to react well. Hell, Gulianni has made an entire career out of his supposed heroics during 9/11.(Which I alwasy thought were exaggerated.)

So if you want to say 9/11 was good for Mayor Pez Dispenser, go ahead, but I find that a little warped.
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<quoted text>kill the employers - that's the ticket. Many of the middle class ARE employers. Face it, 50.4 percent voted for abortions, gay marriage, pot, and free stuff.
The "job creators" (GOP code for "my rich friends") were not "killed" during the Clinton years.

In fact, most of us did pretty well.

Most small companies will not be affected my Obama's proposal.

Simply a return to the Clinton-era rates for those at the top.

You know, the good days, before that other president I'm not allowed to mention!

:))

The one nobody in Tampa mentioned; same as in 2008.
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BREAKING NEWS: NBC News: Obama wins Fla.; final electoral vote tally is Obama, 332, Romney, 206

__________

Not to spike the ball too much, but for a business guy, the Mittster team isn't very good with numbers.

They should have listened to Nate Silver. Or even just the polls themselves.

All due respect of course.
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rabbee: yes and wealthy employers, cannot create jobs. unless they have, the money to spend. and so we go round and round, the dillusion-berry bush. and one of the biggest employers, is the us-government today. which absorbs more tax money, than they pay in. likened unto, a pyramid scheme.
even the irs, consumes about one-third, of the revenue recieved. just to collect taxes, from all of you. as it is a very, non-proficient system of collecting taxes. unlike the sales tax, which is an extreemly proficient system of collecting taxes. which does not require, federal employees to collect taxes. since the compamies themselves, are requiered to do this. as any tax increase, is passed on to the consumers automaticly.
but if congress cannot cure, their spending addiction. even this trillion dollar savings, won't help. since they generally tend to us this, as an excuse to overspend even more.
rabbee yehoshooah adam---the irs, consumes about one-third, of the revenue recieved. just to collect taxes

HughBe--- interesting and if correct it shows that something is alarmingly wrong with the system.
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former res wrote:
BREAKING NEWS: NBC News: Obama wins Fla.; final electoral vote tally is Obama, 332, Romney, 206
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Not to spike the ball too much, but for a business guy, the Mittster team isn't very good with numbers.
They should have listened to Nate Silver. Or even just the polls themselves.
All due respect of course.
Former---They should have listened to Nate Silver Or even just the polls themselves

HughBe--- why would all of the established polls be wrong? Something must be fundamentally wrong in the brains of all those who believed such a thing.

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The "job creators" (GOP code for "my rich friends") were not "killed" during the Clinton years.
In fact, most of us did pretty well.
Most small companies will not be affected my Obama's proposal.
Simply a return to the Clinton-era rates for those at the top.
You know, the good days, before that other president I'm not allowed to mention!
:))
The one nobody in Tampa mentioned; same as in 2008.
I don't have a problem with the Clinton years, but please remember the good things you cite didn't really get going until the Republicans took Congress and Bill moved to the center. So don't crown Clinton without looking at the Congress he had from 1996-2000. Also don't continue blaming Bush for all the world's ills without considering the Congress he had between 2004-2008 - source of Dodd-Frank and the spike in the deficit (signs of a Democrat congress)

Since 49.6 percent didn't vote for him, the big question remains. Will Obama continue to cater to the far left now that he's in, or will he take a cue from his Elijah, Mr. Bill?(the messianic reference is a tip to Frijoles)
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rabbee yehoshooah adam---the irs, consumes about one-third, of the revenue recieved. just to collect taxes
HughBe--- interesting and if correct it shows that something is alarmingly wrong with the system.
rabbee: yes i was horified, when i first did the calculations. even though it has been, more than twenty years ago. since i made those calculations. i do not believe, much has changed since then.

i was doing a lot of investigating, when i was still a member of the republican party. since i was considering, running for a house or senate seat. as a then member, of the republican election commitee.

but the more i investigated, the more i became disalusioned with the present two party system. with even deep divisions, between me and their economic and socio-political agendas. with corruption running rampart, in all political parties. as the quality of the candidates, were just g-d awful.

and after the second visit, with G-D. i began to realize the corruption and situation, was even more desperate and critical than i previously thought. as if my eyes had opened wide, to see the situation as it truly is worse than any one could imagine.
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<quoted text>I don't have a problem with the Clinton years, but please remember the good things you cite didn't really get going until the Republicans took Congress and Bill moved to the center. So don't crown Clinton without looking at the Congress he had from 1996-2000. Also don't continue blaming Bush for all the world's ills without considering the Congress he had between 2004-2008 - source of Dodd-Frank and the spike in the deficit (signs of a Democrat congress)
Since 49.6 percent didn't vote for him, the big question remains. Will Obama continue to cater to the far left now that he's in, or will he take a cue from his Elijah, Mr. Bill?(the messianic reference is a tip to Frijoles)
First off, I accept your apoology on the other (Matthews) matter!

:))

Now, moving on...

Yes, Clinton gets no credit while Obama gets all the blame. I know this one.

And BTW - I don't recall Bush attempting to push through any bills that would pay for his two wars or huge unfunded (not to be redundant) medicare rx plan - do you? Was he blocked from this? Like Obama has been blocked form his attempts at the budget>

Remember the grand deal that brokedwon.

The Bush tax cuts are the #1 cause of the current deficit. Yes Obama did extend them. Much to the chagrin of the far left.(note - he has already moved to the center if you hadn't noticed)

Another BRW - how will your GOP friends deal intelligently in a balanced way with the budget while making Grove NOrquist and the tea baggers happy?
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Epic Whale: Romney volunteers say ‘Orca’ was debacle

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-...
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former res wrote:
BREAKING NEWS: NBC News: Obama wins Fla.; final electoral vote tally is Obama, 332, Romney, 206
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Not to spike the ball too much, but for a business guy, the Mittster team isn't very good with numbers.
They should have listened to Nate Silver. Or even just the polls themselves.
All due respect of course.
The most amazing part of this election to me, was the fact that Team Romney actually believed their hubris. I honestly thought they were just trying to spin it.

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Epic Whale: Romney volunteers say ‘Orca’ was debacle
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-...
Speaking of Orcas, so was Teddy.

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First off, I accept your apoology on the other (Matthews) matter!
:))
Now, moving on...
Yes, Clinton gets no credit while Obama gets all the blame. I know this one.
And BTW - I don't recall Bush attempting to push through any bills that would pay for his two wars or huge unfunded (not to be redundant) medicare rx plan - do you? Was he blocked from this? Like Obama has been blocked form his attempts at the budget>
Remember the grand deal that brokedwon.
The Bush tax cuts are the #1 cause of the current deficit. Yes Obama did extend them. Much to the chagrin of the far left.(note - he has already moved to the center if you hadn't noticed)
Another BRW - how will your GOP friends deal intelligently in a balanced way with the budget while making Grove NOrquist and the tea baggers happy?
Are you telling me that Obama's drone strikes are free? Are you telling me that making an acceptance speech is a move to the center?? More action, less talk. WTH is Grove Norquist???

Actually the housing debacle caused by Barney Frank is close to being #1 cause of the deficit - all those bailouts. And then there's Solyndra and other failed tax-funded green energy companies. And now I heard that GM is going to get a pass on the rest of the money owed to the taxpayers.

I hope you noticed that I've been sensitive to your feelings and haven't mentioned Jimmy Carter.(maybe once - I'm not sure):)

Anyway, I've got a new Rosetta language to start on and Topix is very distracting, so I'm going to take a break for a few weeks.

Salaams, and Happy Veterans' Day to you'all!!
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rabbee: yes i was horified, when i first did the calculations. even though it has been, more than twenty years ago. since i made those calculations. i do not believe, much has changed since then.
i was doing a lot of investigating, when i was still a member of the republican party. since i was considering, running for a house or senate seat. as a then member, of the republican election commitee.
but the more i investigated, the more i became disalusioned with the present two party system. with even deep divisions, between me and their economic and socio-political agendas. with corruption running rampart, in all political parties. as the quality of the candidates, were just g-d awful.
and after the second visit, with G-D. i began to realize the corruption and situation, was even more desperate and critical than i previously thought. as if my eyes had opened wide, to see the situation as it truly is worse than any one could imagine.
Interesting post.
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Lecture 6 The Practical Aspects of His Life and its Practicality Part-39

Prophet and Fasting:

He enjoined the Muslims to fast. The Muslims are required to fast during the month of Ramadan, thirty days a year. But, there never was a month or a week when the holy Prophet was not fasting. Ayesha (May Allah be pleased with her) says that when he began fasting, it seemed he would never stop. He forbade the Muslims to fast for longer than a day, but himself he would fast for two or sometimes three days at a stretch without taking any food at all. His worthy companions wanted to follow suit but he would not allow them saying,‘Who amongst you is like me? My Lord provides sustenance for me.”

He fasted continuously during the months of Sha’ban and Ramadan every year. In addition to that he would fast on the thirteenth, fourteenth and fifteenth day of every month. He would fast for ten days in the month of Muharram and six days in the month of Shawwal. Every week, Monday and Thursday were fixed for fasting. That was the practical example of his fasting.

Prophet and Charity:

He ordered the Muslims to pay Zakat and spend on the needy. But he was the first to set an example. You have already heard his first wife Khadija ’s evidence who had said “O Messenger of Allah! You help people who are unable to pay their debts. You help the poor and spend money on people in distress.” He did not ask his followers to give up everything they owned.

Nor did he shut the doors of the Kingdom of Heaven for the wealthy. He simply asked them to spend a portion of their wealth for charitable purposes for the sake of Allah:“…and spend out of what We have provided them.”(Chap 2: Vrs 3)

The holy Prophet’s own example was that he spent on others everything he owned. There was no shortage of money because spoils of war were coming into Madinah from everywhere, but that money was meant for others. The Prophet (Peace be upon him) would spend a bare minimum on himself and his family. For them it remained the same old life of austerity.

His Household living:

After the victory at Khyber (in 7 AH), it became usual for him to fix a yearly allowance for his wives, but it never lasted a whole year because they too, would share most of it with the poor and
the needy. Ibn Abbas (May Allah be pleased with him) says that the holy Prophet was the most generous of men and his generosity knew no bounds, particularly in the holy month of Ramadan, He never refused anyone who came to him asking for help.

He did not like eating anything by himself, no matter how little he had; he would share it with others. It was his instruction to everyone “If any Muslim dies leaving an unsettled debt, let me know so that I should pay on his behalf And if he leaves anything behind, his relatives will inherit that”

Once a rustic asked him roughly,“O Muhammad!(These provisions) do not belong to you, or to your father. Load them on to my camel” The holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) did not mind his rudeness and ordered that he be given a camel-load of barley and dates.

He used to say “l am but a distributor and a custodian. The real sustainer is Allah.” Abu Dhar (May Allah be pleased with him) says, one night, while he was having a walk with the holy Prophet, he said “Abu Dhar! If this mountain of Uhad turned into gold for me, I would not like that three nights should pass and I still had a Dinar left with me, except that I should keep some to
pay a debt.”

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