Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

[Frijoles]

Lets face it - perhaps it really should of been listed as:

Bill Clinton/Obama DEM vs Romney/Ryan REP

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

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Check this one out - Karl Rove arguing with Fox news anchors and later their statiticians that the Ohio projections may be false - its funny as sht
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Priceless.

Karl can't believe all the money he funneled into this thing and his guy is still losing.

Even his Fox cohorts are trying to tell him about the "science."

Guess we're still waiting on Florida. That Third World county to the south.

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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Priceless.
Karl can't believe all the money he funneled into this thing and his guy is still losing.
Even his Fox cohorts are trying to tell him about the "science."
Guess we're still waiting on Florida. That Third World county to the south.

That would be "denial".

Heck, if I was him I would just be happy I managed to raise a record amount of money. That is an accomplishment in itself - even if it didnt do anything. Enough to retire on and have the last laugh.

Re: Fox statisticians- I have seen journalistic references to Nate Silver as being a Republican - so its not like the Democrats always have a monopoly on science or higher education. Karl should know better. But then again, if he did he wouldnt be Karl, would he?

[SeasideSoon]

Frijoles wrote:

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That would be "denial".
Heck, if I was him I would just be happy I managed to raise a record amount of money. That is an accomplishment in itself - even if it didnt do anything. Enough to retire on and have the last laugh.

There's always a bright side, huh.

"Many Pakistanis fear that President Barack Obama’s re-election will mean a surge in American drone strikes. For those producing and selling U.S. flags to burn at protests, however, his victory could be provide encouraging news, AFP reported.

Demonstrations against U.S. missile strikes targeting suspected Al-Qaeda and Taliban terrorists are common in Pakistan, and no protest is complete without America’s beloved Stars and Stripes being sent up in flames.

Nadeem Shah, the owner of a flag business in Rawalpindi, the twin city of the capital Islamabad, said he expected more drone strikes -- and more protests.

“Of course Obama has become stronger now and he will push his policies harder and there will be more drone strikes because he himself is stronger now,” Shah told AFP.

“When the drone strikes increase the protests against these strikes will also increase in Pakistan and it can have an impact on the flags and poster business,” he added. "

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.a...

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

Liam R wrote:

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Hmm. Haven't you ever read the Bible? It does make it clear that the God of the Bible is the God of the children of Israel and anyone else that wishes to convert and join in the covenant. I do not wish to join that covenant with that God, I have a covenant with my own Gods.

rabbee: your definition of G-D, is not according to TheTorah. TheG-D i know is, is THE CREATOR of everything that actually was, actually is, and actually shall be. TheG-D of the never changing physical horror story, for your never changing horrid mental stupidity.

the maker of all rocks in the universe, but not the delusional ones in your head. TheMaker of all physical hot air, except your own mental hot air.

TheCreator of all nations, including yours. even america is nothing new, it has existed everytime G-D has given this exact same again story. with your exact same again, preferred stupidity here in IT. america was never your idea, it has always been G-D'S idea.

not even the subtle talking beasts of the fields, are your idea. but your following them, is your codependant idea. no more than the sun, the moon and the stars are your idea. the space between your ears, is your mental idea, but not the physical outer space.

and with or without your mental rebellion, G-D is still going to give this same physical story again. even if you mentally reject forever, to be here in IT in ThePhysical Happenings.

as the physical fate, of this whole world. is determined by our mental attitude toward TheG-D of This Forever same physical story with your exclusion of repentance.

i have outlasted, all the other thousands and thousand third or fouth generation sets. and i shall outlast you and your grandmother's third set again too.

and i shall be here, the very next time G-D gives this same story. with or without all of you and your grandmother sarah faye ann carney again. were the beguinning, always happens with Noach for the first day in TheTorah Happening. becausee G-D has given HIS WORD about me and this worlds appointed grandmother's return in TheStory.

[Frijoles]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>There's always a bright side, huh.
"Many Pakistanis fear that President Barack Obama’s re-election will mean a surge in American drone strikes. For those producing and selling U.S. flags to burn at protests, however, his victory could be provide encouraging news, AFP reported.
Demonstrations against U.S. missile strikes targeting suspected Al-Qaeda and Taliban terrorists are common in Pakistan, and no protest is complete without America’s beloved Stars and Stripes being sent up in flames.
Nadeem Shah, the owner of a flag business in Rawalpindi, the twin city of the capital Islamabad, said he expected more drone strikes -- and more protests.
“Of course Obama has become stronger now and he will push his policies harder and there will be more drone strikes because he himself is stronger now,” Shah told AFP.
“When the drone strikes increase the protests against these strikes will also increase in Pakistan and it can have an impact on the flags and poster business,” he added. "
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.a...

Thats the capitalistic spirit!

And it didnt even require a USAID program to cultivate it.

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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Priceless.
Karl can't believe all the money he funneled into this thing and his guy is still losing.
Even his Fox cohorts are trying to tell him about the "science."
Guess we're still waiting on Florida. That Third World county to the south.

Todays NY TImes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/us/politics...

"...And as calls came in on Wednesday from some of the donors who had poured more than $300 million into the pair of big-spending outside groups founded in part by Karl Rove — perhaps the leading political entrepreneur of the super PAC era — he offered them a grim upside: without us, the race would not have been as close as it was..."

Not sure if that should be viewed as chilling, or as a pathetic excuse.

Later in that article:

“Paying bills,” Mr. Adelson said on Tuesday night when asked by a Norwegian reporter how he thought his donations had been spent.“That’s how you spend money. Either that or become a Jewish husband — you spend a lot of money.”

Nice use of stereotypes, jerk.

[Frijoles]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>There's always a bright side, huh.
"Many Pakistanis fear that President Barack Obama’s re-election will mean a surge in American drone strikes.

My prediction is that the reelection will have nothing to do with this - there was no major opposition from America against these strikes and they will continue at whatever rate the pres/military wants at the moment.

On the other hand, I think chances are good that we will escalate our involvement in Syria or Iran, as these escalations were being inhibited by internal political sensibilities that no longer constrain, now that Obama is freed to do what he wants (if he wants).

[SamBee]

Liam R wrote:

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Easy. Exodus 21:22. If the woman is harmed, then its an eye for an eye, death for a death. If the fetus is harmed, then its a fine paid to the husband for damaging his property. Or you can look at Genesis, where Adam is just a lump of clay until the God of the Bible blows that first breath of life (AND a soul!) into his nostrils. Before that, Adam was not a living soul.
Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Exodus 21:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
21:23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
21:24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
21:25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

But a fetus does receive oxygen through the placenta. This organ allows transfer of oxygen from the mother, who obtains oxygen in the normal way, by breathing, directly to the fetus' bloodstream. This circumvents the need for the fetus to breathe until the umbilical cord, which connects the baby to the placenta and to the mother is cut at birth.Adam didn't come through the womb of a women,the scriptures teach that the life is in the blood a fetus has blood therefore it has life and oxygen from the mother.What you posted says that a fetus was alive in the womb,if it was hurt and departed (lost its life) by harm of a man the man was to pay the husban for the lost of life.

Exodus 21:22

If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

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That would be "denial".
Heck, if I was him I would just be happy I managed to raise a record amount of money. That is an accomplishment in itself - even if it didnt do anything. Enough to retire on and have the last laugh.
Re: Fox statisticians- I have seen journalistic references to Nate Silver as being a Republican - so its not like the Democrats always have a monopoly on science or higher education. Karl should know better. But then again, if he did he wouldnt be Karl, would he?

Interesting article about Nate.

The author stands corrected toward the end of the piece.

http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/statsdrive...

[former res]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>There's always a bright side, huh.
"Many Pakistanis fear that President Barack Obama’s re-election will mean a surge in American drone strikes. For those producing and selling U.S. flags to burn at protests, however, his victory could be provide encouraging news, AFP reported.
Demonstrations against U.S. missile strikes targeting suspected Al-Qaeda and Taliban terrorists are common in Pakistan, and no protest is complete without America’s beloved Stars and Stripes being sent up in flames.
Nadeem Shah, the owner of a flag business in Rawalpindi, the twin city of the capital Islamabad, said he expected more drone strikes -- and more protests.
“Of course Obama has become stronger now and he will push his policies harder and there will be more drone strikes because he himself is stronger now,” Shah told AFP.
“When the drone strikes increase the protests against these strikes will also increase in Pakistan and it can have an impact on the flags and poster business,” he added. "
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.a...

Who cares if they burn our flag?

We should worry about becoming energy independent which will begin with not letting ExxonMobile drive our energy policies.

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

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Todays NY TImes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/us/politics...
"...And as calls came in on Wednesday from some of the donors who had poured more than $300 million into the pair of big-spending outside groups founded in part by Karl Rove — perhaps the leading political entrepreneur of the super PAC era — he offered them a grim upside: without us, the race would not have been as close as it was..."
Not sure if that should be viewed as chilling, or as a pathetic excuse.
Later in that article:
“Paying bills,” Mr. Adelson said on Tuesday night when asked by a Norwegian reporter how he thought his donations had been spent.“That’s how you spend money. Either that or become a Jewish husband — you spend a lot of money.”
Nice use of stereotypes, jerk.

I don't even know what or how he means "Jewish husband."

??

How about this?

Donald Trump posted a message on Twitter saying:“Congrats to @KarlRove on blowing $400 million this cycle. Every race @CrossroadsGPS ran ads in, the Republicans lost. What a waste of money.”

Jonathan Collegio, a Crossroads spokesman, declined to comment for this article. Rove couldn’t be reached.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-11-07/r...

The rats are at each others' throats!!

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

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My prediction is that the reelection will have nothing to do with this - there was no major opposition from America against these strikes and they will continue at whatever rate the pres/military wants at the moment.
On the other hand, I think chances are good that we will escalate our involvement in Syria or Iran, as these escalations were being inhibited by internal political sensibilities that no longer constrain, now that Obama is freed to do what he wants (if he wants).

as he told Putin "more freedom after the election"

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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Interesting article about Nate.
The author stands corrected toward the end of the piece.
http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/statsdrive...

It is interesting. It misses the important point though.

Nate didnt just call the states, he called the probability of the data being useful. That is how the bayesian models differ from the other models such as frequency models. Basically, he modeled certainty. That is an art and a math excercise.

Furthermore, ultimately, looking past certainties, what really mattered to the rest of us was the simple yes or no. I.E. Would Obama (or Romney Win)? To get there he had to aggregate and weight all the 50 states. Ultimately he called it more certain for Obama, and Obama did win. Thats all.

Therefore, unless you are prepared to really examine the accuracy of his certainties by testing his assumptions, as far as most people are concerned, Nate won.

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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I don't even know what or how he means "Jewish husband."
??
!!

Keeping the Jappy wife happy buy buying her stuff.

He could of just said he was being a husband.

I wonder if there are Jewish Norweigan Princesses?(and if so, are they all blonde?)

[HughBe]

former res wrote:

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as he told Putin "more freedom after the election"

I see that Obama got a high percentage of the minority groups i.e.

1. gays
2. single women
3. blacks
4. educated young whites
5. hispanics

It is my understanding that you would fall into one of these groups plus the ONLY group that Mitty the shifter got a high percentage of support from.

So, who did you vote for given that you fall into two opposing groups?

[Frijoles]

HughBe wrote:

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I see that Obama got a high percentage of the minority groups i.e.
1. gays
2. single women
3. blacks
4. educated young whites
5. hispanics
It is my understanding that you would fall into one of these groups plus the ONLY group that Mitty the shifter got a high percentage of support from.
So, who did you vote for given that you fall into two opposing groups?

Also,
6. middle class (or non wealthy)
7. Jews
8. women (not only single)
9. those with graduate education
10. urban dwellers

The Republicans represented a dwindling demographic, by all accounts

[HughBe]

Frijoles wrote:

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Also,
6. middle class (or non wealthy)
7. Jews
8. women (not only single)
9. those with graduate education
10. urban dwellers
The Republicans represented a dwindling demographic, by all accounts

Since coming back I have observed that you are not too bad and this is based solely on our exchanges.

My post was intended to tease Former or as I call him always. He certainly is not a young white and so the group that he would fall in is clear. It was really meant to tese him in fun.

Thanks for the information.

[Eric]

Jamaican Election Reform

Prime Minister Bruce Golding acknowledged at a Conference for the Association for Caribbean Electoral Organizations that there were a number of areas of concern in his countries election process including political financing for campaigns, the accountability of the electoral process and the impact positive or negative of the media on elections. The Prime Minister said that the government is looking at a number of activities that could help this process of reform. These things were acknowledged in front of the CEO of the International Foundation for Electoral Systems, the Assistant Secretary General of the Organization of American States and the Electoral Office of Jamaica

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

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Keeping the Jappy wife happy buy buying her stuff.
He could of just said he was being a husband.
I wonder if there are Jewish Norweigan Princesses?(and if so, are they all blonde?)

Ok - i get it.

Yeah I doubt that's exclusive to any one group.

Though my friend Kleinberg specifically chose a nonJewish girl to marry. He married an Irish girl. I foget how he exactly articulated his reasoning. something about them being demanding as i recall.

I myself never had a "type" or nontype.