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former res

Newtown Square, PA

#42793 Nov 4, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>I've discovered that I can have very heated discussions with people about politics and religion and part friends. I simply refrain from phrasing my argument with 'you'.:)
Right.

You called our president "clueless" and then I called you clueless.

And truly, which is more likely to be true?

:)))
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#42794 Nov 4, 2012
President Obama — who has battled accusations that he is insufficiently committed to the U.S. relationship with Israel — locks down the endorsement of that country's left-of center newspaper.

In an editorial, the paper calls Obama "good for Israel" and writes:


Obama continued this two-way track vis-a-vis Iran and the issue of Palestinian statehood. Under his pressure, Israel suspended for the first time - for a while - construction in the settlements. Relations between the two countries' armed forces have never been so close. Obama's challenge in his second term, if he wins the elections, is to lead the region to a stable arrangement of peace and security.

The outcome of the elections will be determined by the voters' decision as to which of the two candidates is good for America. But if any of them are vacillating in their vote over whether Obama has been a good president for Israel, the answer is yes.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/11/ha...
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#42795 Nov 4, 2012
The Salt Lake Tribune, paper of record in the heart of Mormon territory, has endorsed President Barack Obama.

The Salt Lake Trib endorsed Obama in 2008 as well, but given Mitt Romney's Mormon faith, as well as his role in the 2002 Winter Olympics, there was a reasonable expecation that the editorial board might lean the other way.

(PHOTOS: Newspapers' endorsements)

The board notes these allegiances -- "[Romney's] head for business and the bottom line all inspire admiration and hope in our largely Mormon, Republican, business-friendly state" -- and they celebrate his "singular role in rescuing Utah’s organization of the 2002 Olympics from a cesspool of scandal."

But:


[This] is not the only Romney, as his campaign for the White House has made abundantly clear, first in his servile courtship of the tea party in order to win the nomination, and now as the party’s shape-shifting nominee. From his embrace of the party’s radical right wing, to subsequent portrayals of himself as a moderate champion of the middle class, Romney has raised the most frequently asked question of the campaign: "Who is this guy, really, and what in the world does he truly believe?"

The evidence suggests no clear answer, or at least one that would survive Romney’s next speech or sound bite. Politicians routinely tailor their words to suit an audience. Romney, though, is shameless, lavishing vastly diverse audiences with words, any words, they would trade their votes to hear.

More troubling, Romney has repeatedly refused to share specifics of his radical plan to simultaneously reduce the debt, get rid of Obamacare (or, as he now says, only part of it), make a voucher program of Medicare, slash taxes and spending, and thereby create millions of new jobs....

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/10/s...

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#42796 Nov 4, 2012
former res wrote:
The Salt Lake Tribune, paper of record in the heart of Mormon territory, has endorsed President Barack Obama.
The Salt Lake Trib endorsed Obama in 2008 as well, but given Mitt Romney's Mormon faith, as well as his role in the 2002 Winter Olympics, there was a reasonable expecation that the editorial board might lean the other way.
(PHOTOS: Newspapers' endorsements)
The board notes these allegiances -- "[Romney's] head for business and the bottom line all inspire admiration and hope in our largely Mormon, Republican, business-friendly state" -- and they celebrate his "singular role in rescuing Utah’s organization of the 2002 Olympics from a cesspool of scandal."
But:
[This] is not the only Romney, as his campaign for the White House has made abundantly clear, first in his servile courtship of the tea party in order to win the nomination, and now as the party’s shape-shifting nominee. From his embrace of the party’s radical right wing, to subsequent portrayals of himself as a moderate champion of the middle class, Romney has raised the most frequently asked question of the campaign: "Who is this guy, really, and what in the world does he truly believe?"
The evidence suggests no clear answer, or at least one that would survive Romney’s next speech or sound bite. Politicians routinely tailor their words to suit an audience. Romney, though, is shameless, lavishing vastly diverse audiences with words, any words, they would trade their votes to hear.
More troubling, Romney has repeatedly refused to share specifics of his radical plan to simultaneously reduce the debt, get rid of Obamacare (or, as he now says, only part of it), make a voucher program of Medicare, slash taxes and spending, and thereby create millions of new jobs....
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/10/s...
Yes? Des Moines Register endorses Romney. Left spin: So what - no one pays attention to print journalism anyway. Salt Lake Tribune endorses Obama. Left spin: This is gospel.(well, probably not their preferred terminology..)

Note that Romney has always stated that there are parts of Obamacare worth keeping. Your pundit didn't do his research, or at least didn't incorporate it in the article as it wouldn't highlight his point of view.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#42797 Nov 4, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Like most intoxicants, weed is overrated. I barely even drink these days.
I like Castro. One of the best greeting card shops ever!
Also Finochios (female impersonators) was there forever but it now gone; and the show Beach Blanket Babyon; and of course the Alcatraz - very cool. Muir Woods! And driving our Mazda Miata rental through Sonoma Valley/Wine coutry. Great area. Oh - and North Beach..
did you have any fun there/ I was onlyt here once and loved the place
Beautiful area, Carmel, Marin. My sister still lives out there. I feel like it's my other home, but it's been quite a few years since I've been there. My brother was stationed at the Presidio back when I lived there before he went overseas.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42798 Nov 4, 2012
former res wrote:
The Salt Lake Tribune, paper of record in the heart of Mormon territory, has endorsed President Barack Obama.
The Salt Lake Trib endorsed Obama in 2008 as well, but given Mitt Romney's Mormon faith, as well as his role in the 2002 Winter Olympics, there was a reasonable expecation that the editorial board might lean the other way.
(PHOTOS: Newspapers' endorsements)
The board notes these allegiances -- "[Romney's] head for business and the bottom line all inspire admiration and hope in our largely Mormon, Republican, business-friendly state" -- and they celebrate his "singular role in rescuing Utah’s organization of the 2002 Olympics from a cesspool of scandal."
But:
[This] is not the only Romney, as his campaign for the White House has made abundantly clear, first in his servile courtship of the tea party in order to win the nomination, and now as the party’s shape-shifting nominee. From his embrace of the party’s radical right wing, to subsequent portrayals of himself as a moderate champion of the middle class, Romney has raised the most frequently asked question of the campaign: "Who is this guy, really, and what in the world does he truly believe?"
The evidence suggests no clear answer, or at least one that would survive Romney’s next speech or sound bite. Politicians routinely tailor their words to suit an audience. Romney, though, is shameless, lavishing vastly diverse audiences with words, any words, they would trade their votes to hear.
More troubling, Romney has repeatedly refused to share specifics of his radical plan to simultaneously reduce the debt, get rid of Obamacare (or, as he now says, only part of it), make a voucher program of Medicare, slash taxes and spending, and thereby create millions of new jobs....
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/10/s...
The race is over. 538 (Nate Silver) projected 83% likelihood of Obama win - 16% Romney win, and explained and accounted for all bias and error to make his conclusion.

Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42799 Nov 4, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>Yes? Des Moines Register endorses Romney. Left spin: So what - no one pays attention to print journalism anyway. Salt Lake Tribune endorses Obama. Left spin: This is gospel.(well, probably not their preferred terminology..)
Note that Romney has always stated that there are parts of Obamacare worth keeping. Your pundit didn't do his research, or at least didn't incorporate it in the article as it wouldn't highlight his point of view.
It is true that the paper is center-left. Calling it liberal is a stretch - this IS Utah you know. It is also true they endorsed Obama last time.

But it is also true Utah is the home of the Mormons, and if Mitt cant get that vote lockeck up, what can he do? He cant even get his home state of Mass, where a couple of his wifes Cadillacs are registered.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#42800 Nov 4, 2012
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42801 Nov 4, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
My sis got her power back last night.
She said high percentage of NY/NJ plates in the gas lines.
I said go further away from I-95 to get gas - maybe shorter lines. she said yeah, cos cob gas stations a little better.
I saw the Quebec electric trucks leave her neighborhood this morning.(I live very nearby)
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42803 Nov 4, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
I never understood the Rudy worship around 9/11. I may have missed it. he was an effective mayor overall from what I saw. He really rose to attention prior to all that for his crime fighting/law and order.
Shorly before 9/11 Koch gave an interview where he said "Dinkins was a good man but a bad mayor and Rudy was a bad man but a good mayor." I paraphrase but it sounded about right..
Rudy is a flame thrower and as Rosie O'donnle says, looks like a Pez dispensor.
I can't look at him now without thinking that.
NYC needed a strong leader to deal with the aftermath and Rudy stepped into the shoes. He wasnt just strong, either, he was rational, balanced, knew exactly what to say when - very presidential...I am not a fan of the guy overall but I will be the first to say he was a great and possibly historic leader for those weeks.

Before that he was very law and order - but pissed off alot of people in his way with his pettiness and vindictiveness.

Remember the War Against Squeegee Men?
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42804 Nov 4, 2012
former res wrote:
President Obama — who has battled accusations that he is insufficiently committed to the U.S. relationship with Israel — locks down the endorsement of that country's left-of center newspaper.
In an editorial, the paper calls Obama "good for Israel" and writes:
Obama continued this two-way track vis-a-vis Iran and the issue of Palestinian statehood. Under his pressure, Israel suspended for the first time - for a while - construction in the settlements. Relations between the two countries' armed forces have never been so close. Obama's challenge in his second term, if he wins the elections, is to lead the region to a stable arrangement of peace and security.
The outcome of the elections will be determined by the voters' decision as to which of the two candidates is good for America. But if any of them are vacillating in their vote over whether Obama has been a good president for Israel, the answer is yes.
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/11/ha...
When relations were souring between Netanyahu and Obama due to some statements Netanyahu was making - the armed forces leadership elite (who arguably hold the highest status in the country)took Netanyahu aside and asked him WHY he was trying to piss off their strongest ally and friend. Israelis are not all stupid. Shortly afterwords, Netanyahu blinked and pulled himself off from the brink.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#42805 Nov 4, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
The race is over. 538 (Nate Silver) projected 83% likelihood of Obama win - 16% Romney win, and explained and accounted for all bias and error to make his conclusion.
Nate didn't take into account my sister (in a swing state). Voted for Obama last time, Romney now. There's a lot of that going on and not the other way around. Obama will get his '47' percent, higher in the solid blues, but less in those swing states.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#42806 Nov 4, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
When relations were souring between Netanyahu and Obama due to some statements Netanyahu was making - the armed forces leadership elite (who arguably hold the highest status in the country)took Netanyahu aside and asked him WHY he was trying to piss off their strongest ally and friend. Israelis are not all stupid. Shortly afterwords, Netanyahu blinked and pulled himself off from the brink.
http://www.algemeiner.com/2012 /11/01/report-exit-polls-show- 85-for-romney-14-for-obama-amo ng-israeli-voters/

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#42807 Nov 4, 2012
iVoteIsrael released the results of its voter exit poll today and the results were decidedly in Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s favor. 85% of those who cast absentee ballots for the upcoming presidential election said they did so for Romney while only 14% voted for the incumbent, President Barack Obama. 0.6% said that they voted for another candidate. In the key battleground states of Florida and Ohio Romney also beat Obama by a wide margin taking 84.8% to Obama’s 15.1% in the former, and 85.8% to Obama’s 18.1% in the latter state. To the question “What is the most important issue to you in these elections?” 11.2% said jobs and the economy, 2.7% said healthcare, 11.2% said Iran, 0.9% said taxation, 61.3% said Israel-related issues such as the status of Jerusalem and Palestinians and 10% said other.
Voluntarist

United States

#42808 Nov 4, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
That's hom my father in law and Gary Johnson desccribe the party.
In my experience though, they're just Conservative Republicans who don't want to pay their taxes.
"their taxes"

see "owning an IRS lawyer"
Government never relies on facts.

The income tax is the interest payment to the private federal reserve, the IRS is the collection arm.
public money vs. private credit

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#42809 Nov 4, 2012
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/choice-ame...

Gee, if Obama can't even hold New York....
Voluntarist

United States

#42810 Nov 4, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
NYC needed a strong leader to deal with the aftermath and Rudy stepped into the shoes. He wasnt just strong, either, he was rational, balanced, knew exactly what to say when - very presidential...I am not a fan of the guy overall but I will be the first to say he was a great and possibly historic leader for those weeks.
Before that he was very law and order - but pissed off alot of people in his way with his pettiness and vindictiveness.
Remember the War Against Squeegee Men?
Rudy did a very fine job of scooping up those bodies and dumping them in the land fill, now they can be proudly laid in asphalt.
He also did a very fine job of evacuating himself out of the area after "he was told the buildings were going to collapse ".

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#42811 Nov 4, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
You still havent learn to read other posts yet before you open your flapper, have you?
Must be a robo-troll.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42812 Nov 4, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>Nate didn't take into account my sister (in a swing state). Voted for Obama last time, Romney now. There's a lot of that going on and not the other way around. Obama will get his '47' percent, higher in the solid blues, but less in those swing states.
You dont get it. Nate Silver isnt a poll. He analyzes the other polls and figures out how to make sense of all of it on a macro level. He goes into great detail of every bias and contigency and models that in. Historically, he has been 98% accurate.

BTW it has been claimed that he is a Republican to boot.

Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42813 Nov 4, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
http://www.nydailynews.com/opi nion/choice-america-future-mit t-romney-article-1.1196299
Gee, if Obama can't even hold New York....
You live in a strange alternative universe. I have to agree with FR, turn off FOX and let the healing begin.

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