Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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yeah many (depending where one lives) are natural gas-powered too.
And sis told me they cut off the gas in parts of town. so as not to end up like Queens. bubbles/fires
guess the only thing you can rely on is your own supply of wood or coal

The old types of wood burners are now banned here.

[SeasideSoon]

Frijoles wrote:

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The old types of wood burners are now banned here.

Say hello to Nanny when you see him. ;)

[david]

UticaSux wrote:

Hmmm

i am a christian. And i feel the same thing. I don't like anybody messing with my faith. So I am giving them the same break. It's cruel when someone messes with matters of faith.

[fukuda]

Now We Believe That Japanese Imperial Clan Is Jews

http://book.geocities.jp/japan_conspiracy/010...

And unfortunately, the rest of the Japanese are actually slaves who are completely under the mind control.

[MUQ]

Eliezer wrote:

Some messianic "Jews" may have been born to Jewish mothers, hence that would make them technically Jewish. But their hodge podge of Christianity with a slight seasoning of Judaism can hardly be called "Jewish", and certainly not a part of Judaism. They are practicing Christian evangelism, and trying to paint it as being Jewish.
We in Israel are NOT the US, nor should we be judged by US laws and values. We also aren't Saudi Arabia or some other backward Arab country. We ARE a Jewish State, founded as a homeland for the Jewish people. We should be allowed to determine for ourselves whether we want to be forced to allow evangelical Christians, proseletising Muslems, adamant Buddhists, or any other religion to attempt to convert our people. We tolerate and even support normative Christian and Muslim practice here, but trying to convert Jews to other religions in our homeland would be not far from kidnapping the Pope in Rome, and forcing him to pray 5 times a day to Allah.

That said, a bomb is NOT an acceptable tool in any form of religious debate, no matte who's side I'm on. The perpetrators should be prosecuted, and the penalty is stiff here (western style). But keep these christian fanatics claiming to be jews away, we don't need them.

Ans.

I think you make the same mistake as so many people do. They consider religion as a sort of label that is posted on the forehead of a person when he or she is born.

In reality a man becomes a member of any religious group when he or she acts according to the tenets of that religion.

A Messianic Jew is not who is born of a certain group of male and female. A messianic Jew is one who believes that Jesus was a Messiah and he also follows the Law of Moses.

A Messianic Jew is therefore True Jew and a True Christian merged into one.

This is the Qualitative definition of a Messianic Jew as per my limited understanding, then you can always say that I am a Novice in these matters.

May be I am!!

[MUQ]

Eric wrote:

I gave them to you. Fundamental law of nature says that people are to seek peace. When they are unable to do that on their own, that man must be willing to lay down the right to all things, and be content with so much liberty against other men, as he would allow other men against himself. The laying down of those rights is the formation of government. Read Hobbes sometime.

The people of the US said that they were lay down some of their rights to create a limited central government reserving to themselves all other power. The people of CT utilized those reserved rights to create a very unlimited form of government by a vote of the people. They reserved to themselves the authority to amend that government.

Ans.

I say that you spoke a very fundamental truth here… that people agree to "give away a part of their rights" to form a nation and / or a society.

That is the fundamental truth, no human society can exist where there is "absolute freedom" for thoughts and actions. There has to be a limit on them.

And what holds true for a nation also holds true for every religion. To give up a part of your freedom to align yourself with the teachings of a religion is what makes you member of that religious group.

How strange is that same people justify "surrender of their rights" to form a nation and then they "ridicule" the idea why religions asks people to surrender the same!!

[TJ Monk]

MUQ wrote:

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Ans.
I think you make the same mistake as so many people do. They consider religion as a sort of label that is posted on the forehead of a person when he or she is born.
In reality a man becomes a member of any religious group when he or she acts according to the tenets of that religion.
A Messianic Jew is not who is born of a certain group of male and female. A messianic Jew is one who believes that Jesus was a Messiah and he also follows the Law of Moses.
A Messianic Jew is therefore True Jew and a True Christian merged into one.
This is the Qualitative definition of a Messianic Jew as per my limited understanding, then you can always say that I am a Novice in these matters.
May be I am!!

There is no such thing as a Messianic Jew. The Law of Moses doesn't count. Jesus instituted the NEW Covanant, to love. Cornilious was the first Gentile to join the 1st century christians.

[SeasideSoon]

Gee - I wonder if Mayor Bloomberg has any credibility outside the Northeast....

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/nyc-mar...

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2012/11...

I would think common decency would dictate getting the dead people and animals taken care of before having a marathon. Bloomberg has a serious emotional disconnect - at least he caved on this ludicrous idea (probably for the wrong reasons.)

[SeasideSoon]

former res wrote:

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I was thinking, "Who the hell cares about Benghazi right now?"
And then I read this, and now I understand why you are obsessed with this issue.
It isn't really your fault.
Simple solution: Stop watching Fox News!
Carry on.
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Fox News Focuses On Benghazi Attack While Largely Ignoring Hurricane Sandy

No, it's not my fault. It's the fault of my father, brothers, nephews, uncles, cousins, classmates and friends who serve or served in the military. I'm from that generation of draft-dodgers and people who spit on those returning from Vietnam - those who hid out in college or Canada - and I repudiate them and all those milktoast cowards who cut and run. I don't have a problem with deferrments - not everyone is suited to the military, but don't spit on our military.

And don't sit in the White House, watch the action and go to bed to be well rested for a campaign fundraiser in Vegas. Do your job man - for once. The guy is basically out of his league, clueless, and a narcissist.

[TJ Monk]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>No, it's not my fault. It's the fault of my father, brothers, nephews, uncles, cousins, classmates and friends who serve or served in the military. I'm from that generation of draft-dodgers and people who spit on those returning from Vietnam - those who hid out in college or Canada - and I repudiate them and all those milktoast cowards who cut and run. I don't have a problem with deferrments - not everyone is suited to the military, but don't spit on our military.
And don't sit in the White House, watch the action and go to bed to be well rested for a campaign fundraiser in Vegas. Do your job man - for once. The guy is basically out of his league, clueless, and a narcissist.

Anyone who serves in the military....AND fights far from home is FOOLISH. Iraq was a disaster, 1.5 trillion dollars on credit. We lost Vietnam after killing 4 million Vietnamese......How can any soldier (NOT HERO) be proud of that?? We are a sick war obsessed nation who spends more on our military than the whole world combined. We forgot our greatest resource...Americans......
.........You set your view of draft dodgers....THEY DID RIGHT....Dumb Tool

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

TJ Monk wrote:

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There is no such thing as a Messianic Jew. The Law of Moses doesn't count. Jesus instituted the NEW Covanant, to love. Cornilious was the first Gentile to join the 1st century christians.

rabbee: oh come on! all of the multitudes that followed Moshe, were all a messianic congregation. they have always been waiting for, either a messiah or HaMosheeach. even when they waited, for a deliverer to slay Goleeath.

stupid democrats! have always expected, someone else to do it all for them. if it was not for the macabees, they might still be under pagan greek rule. oh! wait a minute, i think they sill are under pagan rule. cause they still do not, really believe in HaShem G-D.

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>No, it's not my fault. It's the fault of my father, brothers, nephews, uncles, cousins, classmates and friends who serve or served in the military. I'm from that generation of draft-dodgers and people who spit on those returning from Vietnam - those who hid out in college or Canada - and I repudiate them and all those milktoast cowards who cut and run. I don't have a problem with deferrments - not everyone is suited to the military, but don't spit on our military.
And don't sit in the White House, watch the action and go to bed to be well rested for a campaign fundraiser in Vegas. Do your job man - for once. The guy is basically out of his league, clueless, and a narcissist.

rabbee: yeah i guess we know, what happened when Daveed did once, what obama is doing.

and i don't think, it would of been funny. and go ahead and let them give me a gold star, for being reported as killed in action either. i said, "no! man, give me with a purple heart instead."

i preferred nobody, really knew what really happened that oct 10 1967. how do your explain, i was actually killed but got better. this after life experience, was a real hum-dinger. and how astonishing, it happened exactly the way G-D said it shall. wow talk about, amazing grace.

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

TJ Monk wrote:

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Anyone who serves in the military....AND fights far from home is FOOLISH. Iraq was a disaster, 1.5 trillion dollars on credit. We lost Vietnam after killing 4 million Vietnamese......How can any soldier (NOT HERO) be proud of that?? We are a sick war obsessed nation who spends more on our military than the whole world combined. We forgot our greatest resource...Americans......
.........You set your view of draft dodgers....THEY DID RIGHT....Dumb Tool

rabbee: sorry but you do not have a choice, should G-D command you to go to war. it's going to happen, whether your for or against it. and we lost the war, due to our waining disbelief in G-D. and is why the war, was commanded to happen should the woman chaooah not do. any thing that physically happens, is commanded by G-D. we are only in charge, of our mental happening. and our mental attitude toward G-D, determins what HE commands to physically happen. you have no idea, of the awesome power of G-D. you spent too much of your life, denying it here in TheHappening.

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

every breath i take, and every step i take has already been commaded by G-D. i could not deny this, any longer than i already did. with my life story already foretold, to happen here in TheStory of Creation again. with all of you and your grandmother of all, actually here in TheTorah. i have already been through this same story, with all of you and your grandmother twice before this time here in IT.

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

this is like one of those stories about time loops. where nobody listens, to the one who becomes aware of it. so we are destined, to go through it again.

[TJ Monk]

rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:

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rabbee: sorry but you do not have a choice, should G-D command you to go to war. it's going to happen, whether your for or against it. and we lost the war, due to our waining disbelief in G-D. and is why the war, was commanded to happen should the woman chaooah not do. any thing that physically happens, is commanded by G-D. we are only in charge, of our mental happening. and our mental attitude toward G-D, determins what HE commands to physically happen. you have no idea, of the awesome power of G-D. you spent too much of your life, denying it here in TheHappening.

You believe in FATE.....a philosophy invented in Athens, Greece. 1st Century. You don't believe in G-D

[Voluntarist]

former res wrote:

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Chris Christie, Bloomberg, and Powell would disagree.

You quoted 3 pieces of shit

none of which are conservative, what is your point?

[Voluntarist]

Frijoles wrote:

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It really is an alternate universe in FOX land.
In the rest of the world, everyone is talking about global warming (science?? could it be?).
Lets look at the stupidity of the FOX playbook. Ok, they whip the base into a frenzy. So what? They are not going to get any independents who care.
Birtherism.

Why would anybody be talking about global warming? Unless you are a mindless liberal.

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

TJ Monk wrote:

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You believe in FATE.....a philosophy invented in Athens, Greece. 1st Century. You don't believe in G-D

rabbee: nope! wrong again, lizard breath. obviously fate can be chanbged, from getting hell from G-D or not getting hell from G-D. but as long as you make all, the exact same insane mental errors. only then shall you suffer the same physical fate.

i have stood, in the presence of G-D. and have been told, my fate and the fate of this world. only because you all, mentally follow the beast. hsd you not of done this, we would have been in GanEden now today. the only way to change fate, is to change your mental corruption to less than now. for there is one fate, for every given set of mental errors.

i have stood in ThePresence of G-D, three times in 68 years. how can i not believe in G-D. i believe that once G-D tells a life story, it is going to happen exactly the way G-D said it. and TheTorah tells TheStory of this world, refusing to believe in G-D. because you refuse to believe in TheG-D of TheStory of Creation here in IT.

and what i get from G-D directly, does not come from any beliefs in this world. so don't accuse me, with your hypocrite disbelief in G-D yourself. and G-D shall keep, THEIR Promse to place me and my appointed mate in charge of everything here in TheTorah again.

so do not try to change or worry about, the things that cannot be changed. but you had better worry, only about that which can be changed. but always near the end, finally here am i again. just like it says, in TheWritten Torah. and so it, is. and your mental enmity against G-D, is your own downfall with the beast.

[Rtloder]

TJ Monk wrote:

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There is no such thing as a Messianic Jew. The Law of Moses doesn't count. Jesus instituted the NEW Covanant, to love. Cornilious was the first Gentile to join the 1st century christians.

Victory for internationalism, Cornilious got the golden hand shake when he was accepted into heaven,, previous to that of
Course there was no heaven, the purpose of that was of course to keep the bastards honest,, yes the keepers managed to keep the faith alive, with a Priestly connection to the garden, heaven is relevant,, if there was
no priestly connection to heaven surely
the choice would favour the internationalist approach, of Cornilious.