Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

[former res]

Voluntarist wrote:

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Oh but that was the initial claim, the situation room photo.
Clinton Recounts Osama Bin Laden's Death
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton "gave a play-by-play account of
the day Bin Laden was killed" in a speech at the U.S. Naval
Academy and recalled how none of the officials in the room
watching the operation, including President Obama, "could
breathe for 30-35 minutes," ABC News reports.

Brigadier General Marshall "Brad" Webb, assistant commanding general of Joint Special Operations Command who sits in the center of the famous photo, was monitoring the operation on a screen through a laptop computer. Michael Leiter, then director of the National Counterterrorism Center, went into the room to watch the feed that was being relayed from a secret drone. Secretaries Clinton, Gates, and Vice President Biden soon followed. Moments later Bergen reports, the president walked in and said, "I need to watch this," as he seated himself next to Webb.

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/01/the-...

[Voluntarist]

former res wrote:

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Brigadier General Marshall "Brad" Webb, assistant commanding general of Joint Special Operations Command who sits in the center of the famous photo, was monitoring the operation on a screen through a laptop computer. Michael Leiter, then director of the National Counterterrorism Center, went into the room to watch the feed that was being relayed from a secret drone. Secretaries Clinton, Gates, and Vice President Biden soon followed. Moments later Bergen reports, the president walked in and said, "I need to watch this," as he seated himself next to Webb.
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/01/the-...

Top CIA director admits that there was no footage yet you are quoting inferior underlinks.

[Eric]

Voluntarist wrote:

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Factually what is Connecticut and what facts are relied upon that the laws are applicable to me?

I love it when you step on your tongue. I am only using your own statement and the printed text of the state constitution.

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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you can't possibly make this stuff up!
is he back judging horse shows?

I know, that perhaps was the funniest quote I have read in a while. Better than "binders full of woman.."

Its like Tony Hayward criticizing an oil spill recovery operation for being too agressive.

We'll give Seaside a chance to retract her reference....

Brown is now doing talk radio in Denver. I think that quote was lifted from his normal daily babble.

[Frijoles]

Voluntarist wrote:

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Great and what facts do you rely on that the Constitution as amended in 1818 is it?, is applicable to me?

If you are going to discuss legal politics with the rest of us, you need to share our framework. Difference of opinion is ok, but there has to be some basic grounding as to what reality is.

[former res]

Voluntarist wrote:

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Top CIA director admits that there was no footage yet you are quoting inferior underlinks.

Doesn't sound like direct footage but more of link via a drone.

From what I remember at the time, it wasn't a clear picture of what was happening at all.

They were obviously watching something but mostly listening for updates.

This was my understanding and seems to be consistent with accounts.

[Frijoles]

Voluntarist wrote:

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Factually what is Connecticut and what facts are relied upon that the laws are applicable to me?

Again, if you are going to discuss legal politics with the rest of us, you need to share our framework. Difference of opinion is ok, but there has to be some basic grounding as to what reality is.

[Frijoles]

Voluntarist wrote:

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That is precisely my point, if you are forcing an agreement there is no choice, the gun is pointed to my head to make a false choice.

I am not forcing an "argument"- I am forcing reality on you, courtesy of the US and CT constitutions

You have too choices

1)govt by distance
2) govt by local

Make your choice.

I'll take govt by local.

[Frijoles]

Eric wrote:

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I love it when you step on your tongue. I am only using your own statement and the printed text of the state constitution.

It was a typical response of a fundamentalist when cornered (in this case by himself). Change the goal posts and hope noone notices.

[Voluntarist]

Eric wrote:

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I love it when you step on your tongue. I am only using your own statement and the printed text of the state constitution.

Actually no, you stated that it is applicable I am asking you for the facts.

[Voluntarist]

Frijoles wrote:

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If you are going to discuss legal politics with the rest of us, you need to share our framework. Difference of opinion is ok, but there has to be some basic grounding as to what reality is.

What do you mean by legal politics? I am asking for facts not politics.

[Voluntarist]

former res wrote:

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Doesn't sound like direct footage but more of link via a drone.
From what I remember at the time, it wasn't a clear picture of what was happening at all.
They were obviously watching something but mostly listening for updates.
This was my understanding and seems to be consistent with accounts.

Actually if you look close enough it appears to be a photo shopped photo.

[Voluntarist]

Frijoles wrote:

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I am not forcing an "argument"- I am forcing reality on you, courtesy of the US and CT constitutions
You have too choices
1)govt by distance
2) govt by local
Make your choice.
I'll take govt by local.

And precisely what or who is going to force me to agree to be politically ruled?

[Voluntarist]

Frijoles wrote:

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It was a typical response of a fundamentalist when cornered (in this case by himself). Change the goal posts and hope noone notices.

I don't stick by the constitution I never signed the document I am merely having a discussion about governmental framework.

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[Eric]

Voluntarist wrote:

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Actually no, you stated that it is applicable I am asking you for the facts.

Please don't make me go back and make you eat your words.

[Eric]

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It's not hard to understand at all. The people of the US gave their federal government limited power reserving all other governmental power to the states and themselves. That's called the 10th Amendment. CT used that reserved power to offer social services. CT did not need for Congress to grant them the power. The people reserved that power to the states, including CT.

You replied
But Connecticut can only do what is expressed in the Constitution, and can't do what is expressly prohibited.

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And my follow up was that if they can do what's in the constitution, and the people of CT have given the General Assembly in the constitution extremely broad powers, then the General Assembly can do just about anything, with the exception of the few prohibitions in Article One.

[Frijoles]

Voluntarist wrote:

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What do you mean by legal politics? I am asking for facts not politics.

Well, we already tried that road but you bungled that so I moved on to politics.

You made some assertions about constitutions, and Eric and I showed that you were FOS.

At this point, rather than go round and round, it is about time to hang up.

[Voluntarist]

Eric wrote:

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Eric wrote:
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It's not hard to understand at all. The people of the US gave their federal government limited power reserving all other governmental power to the states and themselves. That's called the 10th Amendment. CT used that reserved power to offer social services. CT did not need for Congress to grant them the power. The people reserved that power to the states, including CT.
You replied
But Connecticut can only do what is expressed in the Constitution, and can't do what is expressly prohibited.
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And my follow up was that if they can do what's in the constitution, and the people of CT have given the General Assembly in the constitution extremely broad powers, then the General Assembly can do just about anything, with the exception of the few prohibitions in Article One.

What's facts do you rely on that the constitution is applicable?

[SeasideSoon]

Frijoles wrote:

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/31/opinion/dow...
"Gov. Chris Christie, the fleece-wearing, order-barking Neptune of the Jersey Shore, was all over TV Tuesday, effusively praising the president for his luminous leadership on Hurricane Sandy, the same president he mocked last week at a Romney rally in Virginia as a naif groping to find “the light switch of leadership.”
On ABC, CBS and NBC, Christie hailed Obama as “outstanding.” On MSNBC, he said the president “has been all over this,” and on CNN, he called Obama “incredibly supportive.” The big guy even tweeted his thanks to the slender one.
Most astonishing of all, the New Jersey governor went on Fox News and spoke words rarely heard on that network:“I have to give the president great credit.”
“I spoke to the president three times yesterday,” Christie gushed.“He called me for the last time at midnight last night, asking what he could do.”
Christie also extolled FEMA, even though Romney has said it is “immoral” to spend money on federal disaster relief when the deficit is so big.
.....Just about the only criticism the president got on his storm stewardship was, amazingly enough, from “Heck of a Job, Brownie” Michael Brown, the FEMA chief during KatNY Timerina, who naturally thought Obama acted too quickly and efficiently..."

NY Times - quite a reliable source. Reliably liberal. You may not have noticed - but Christie Never Gushes. I think your writer got a little overly artistic with his description of the event. I saw it - he didn't gush.